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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: gregih on Tuesday 28 May 13 05:49 BST (UK)
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Looking for any information on Ross Edgar.
lived in Mullewa Western Australia in 1937 and was up to the age of 21 at the time. His uncle was Frederick Kenyon.
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Hi again Greg ;)
Now this is a long shot except that it mentions Edgar and Mullewa and Matron Rose (weren't we looking for a Nurse Rose - I'd better link in old thread in a moment)
David A Edgar married Mignon A Rose in 1922 in Perth.
And in 1923 Mignon A Edgar died in Mullewa, wfe of David Edgar and daughter of Matron Rose of Mullewa Hospital
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page2769028
cheers,
Ros
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Here is previous thread about Frederick Lawton Kenyon
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,600060.msg4930155.html#msg4930155
cheers,
Ros
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here are death notices for Matron Rose of Mullewa Hospital
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46270577
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46271307
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46272155
Perhaps I am off on the wrong track ::)
cheers,
Ros
adding : But she is Minnie Teresa ROSE! :D
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Please some more info, is his name Edgar ROSS or Ross EDGAR ???
Neil ;)
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Hmm maybe figured it out ???
Could his name have been David Ross Edgar. if so born Perth 1922 year of marriage of his Mom Mignon.
Ref # 866
Neil, or of course I could be wrong as per usual. ;D
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Looks good Neil :)
cheers,
Ros
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Or maybe he was David Rossiter Edgar - here a family tree http://www.niallwilson.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I1292&tree=edgar
On 1949 electoral roll
David Rossiter Edgar (stockman) and wife living at Mullewa
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David Rossiter Edgar - probate notice on Ryerson in 1972 late of Moline Creek NT
http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
cheers,
Ros
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Story coming soon on trove
Body found
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Tuesday 21 December 1971 p 3 Article
Body found DARWIN, Monday. -The The body of Mr David Rossiter Edgar, about 48, , of Pine Creek, who drowned when his car was washed , into Bowerbird Creek, has been recovered by police.
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Good pickup Ros ;D
Maybe he was into Mining, there are a few mines in that area. ??? And WA Bdm just has David R Edgar.
Neil
MODIFIEDOO, OO, OO, meant to say that was one shotgun wedding she (Mignon was 8mths at marriage) :-[ :-X
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I think we are onto something Neil (well possibly the same wrong path ;D but it's nice to have company :) ).
The tree has a good lead on a son of David Rossiter Edgar so maybe we can find him.
cheers,
Ros
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Some info on the Edgar fmily with mentions of David Andrew Edgar, David Rossiter Edgar and his son who were all stock men https://sites.google.com/site/edgarsinaustralia/halbertedgar
cheers,
Ros
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I received a copy of Fredericks will and he bequeathed all he had to his nephew.. Ross Edgar when he reached the age of 21. This was in 1937.
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So the will was written in 1937 ....? Or was it probated in 1937? And it is possible that David Rossington Edgar (known as Ross to distinguish him from his father [speculation]) was the nephew even though he was only 16'ish at the time ...?
cheers,
Ros
adding : And given that David Rossington Edgar's mother died just after his birth he may have been raised by his grandmother Matron Minnie Rose at the time Frederick was living with her. [more speculation]
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Can you please give us all the details on the will? Witnesses etc. You never know what may help Greg. (getting late here and not focussing well but David Rossiter Edgar was closest I could find on ER in Mullewa and then a google search found that tree)
cheers,
Ros
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Ros, copy of Fredericks will.
regards Greg
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Thanks Greg,
In matron Rose death notices there is Margaret (Mrs Dyer) as a daughter (deceased) so possibly wife of John Francis Dyer the executor of the will?
Let me see what I can find ...
Adding :
aha John F Dyer married Margaret E Rose in Geraldton in 1926.
and on 1937 ER John Francis Dyer living in Mullewa with Margaret Elvina Dyer
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Margaret Elvina's death notice 1943 making clear that she wife of John Francis Dyer and mother of Cliff. Also that she was daughter of Matron Rose of Mullewa.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46777027
DYER.-On November 28. 1943 , at her late residence, Bunbury-road. Armadale.
passed peacefully away. Margaret Elvina. dearly loved wife of John Francis Dyer
(RAAF); loving mother of Cliff and Pat; devoted daughter of Matron Rose (Mullewa); loving sister of Mena, Teen, Rheta, Charles and Ern; fond aunt of Ross, Edna and Jim; aged 46 years. Peacefully sleeping.
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Margaret Elvina DYER death 28/11/1943 Age 46 - Karrakatta Cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00001578
John Francis DYER death 04/01/1982 Age 80 Karrakatta Cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00069216
cheers :)
cupoflife
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Clifford DYER death 27/03/2008 Age 79 – Ashes taken by Funeral Director at Karrakatta Cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00170606
cheers :)
cupoflife
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It's all pointing to Matron Minnie Rose being the Nurse Minnie Rose that you were looking for Greg. And she is grandmother of David Rossiter Edgar and they were in Mullewa at the right time.
cheers,
Ros
(thanks cupoflife :) )
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Found a marriage :) and now death :( (so I can post details) Children and grandchildren named
Marriage 1958 Rosemary Patricia DYER and Rupert Sassoon SADAK; Perth
SADKA (Rupert Sassoon): Published in The West Australian on May 2, 2013
Passed away peacefully on 30th April. Beloved husband of Patricia (dec), father of S******, M***** and T*****. Grandfather of M****** and J****. Many will cherish fond memories of his theatrical performances and his presence on the tennis court. May his passing recall memories of a wonderful era http://www.rootschat.com/links/0u91/
cheers :)
cupoflife
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And there is a marriage for John C Dyer in 1952 in Perth http://www.wamarriage.info/
(corresponds to the scribbled note at the bottom of the will about the son (and his wife) of John Francis Dyer, son being officially John Clifford Dyer)
cheers,
Ros
engagement http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48195521
Birth to the couple http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49231565 :)
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In 1980 Electoral Roll for Essendon, Victoria there is a lady of same name as birth notice - she is living by herself (well no other Dyer's at same address).
cheers,
Ros
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Hi all,
a few things still puzzle me a little.
In Fredericks service records he states (NOK) Minnie Rose (now looks certain to be the Matron!) as his wife. Maybe they were just partners? It seems she had a few children but none to Frederick?
Also in the Matrons death notice it mentions her late husband "William Rose" so finding out when he died would be handy (as long as it was before WW1 otherwise things get interesting!)
Hopefully after 30 years of searching I might be able to return his medal to a relative!!! :)
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Found a surname in the local phone book which has a possible link.... will keep informed
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I found someone who new Fred
He remembers Fred very well! Apparently Fred lived in a place called Anzac house next to a home/hospice that was opened and run by......... Minnie Rose! They formed a de facto relationship.
He remembers listening to some of Freds war stories particularly one were he had to shoot his own horse as they could not bring them back from Egypt. He was a cousin of Ross Edgar (now deceased, drowned) but Ross had one son.. who lives in Darwin.
His wife (Marion) died a while ago but he would like to catch up and see the medal as well as Freds service records. He also said that Minnies daughter died at childbirth and that Minnie raised the child (Ross!).
I just have to try and get in touch with a possible son of Ross as he is doing some family research so I am sure he will be interested.
thanks for now I will keep updated!
cheers
Greg
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Oh Greg that is wonderful news! Fantastic result :)
I'm just a bit concerned that you have mentioned living people though - we are not supposed to mention them here. Perhaps you could just modify your post (hit modify and then backspace over the name leaving just the initial).
Great result :)
cheers,
Ros
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What a great result, chalk one up for the team at Rootschat ;D
Great your now in contact with family Greg, now you may be able to expand on the history with your relies. ;)
Neil :D
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Cant thank you guys enough!! Its been a very long time looking for anyone who is tied to Fred.
will keep you informed about meeting with "CD". ;D ;D
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The story of Mullewa matron
Geraldton Guardian16 Jun 2020Peter Sweeney
Minnie Rose with children Charles, Mena, Rheta, Ernest and Margaret.
Mignon Lewis only wanted to be a nurse. William Rose only wanted her to be his wife.
It sounds as though it ended as it started — but the early settlers of Mullewa and the Mid West were lucky he got ... Here is an article on my great grandma Minnie https://images.app.goo.gl/LkZLGqYZMPiTRXkXA photo of William my my grandfather ...
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David Ross Edgar ('Ross") was born 15-3-1922 and died at Pine Creek in the Northern territory (Australia) 17.12.1978. He was a member of the Australian Army during WWII and joined a parachute battalion. Although fully trained, Ross was never involved in combat. He married Alma Violet Thomas aka Alma Violet Croft) in 1946. Alma Violet was always known as Vi and she was previously married to a Charles Blackborrow. Viand Ross had one son (still living). After discharge from the Army, it is believed that Ross and family went to live in Broome Western Australia. By all accounts, the relationship between Ross and Vi was anything but smooth. Violet left the marriage and went to live in Wyndham, where she died as a result of an accident, in 1957. Vi is buried in Wyndham. Ross is buried in the general cemetery in Darwin.