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Title: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Tuesday 04 June 13 12:32 BST (UK)
We are interested in the Burt family of Scotland mainly based in Dunfermline. We have gone back to about 1590 with the birth of Henrie Burt and his marriage to Isabell Browne.
   We then continue to the nineteenth century when the big exodus begins. The United States was the number one choice for lots of the Burt Family.There is a great conclave in Utah, Salt Lake City which suits the Burts and their love of Family History.This is very well covered by the Mormans and LDS, and the Burts are in many other States.
Some Burts travelled to New Zealand and we have contact there as well. Some came to Australia. My line came here but there are other Burt families here and some of our family went to Perth in Western Australia and some others went to South Africa.
There are probably a lot more Burts. We have just listed the ones we know at this time.

Back in the early 1960's we were given a framed history of the Burts which was done by Alexander MacDonald Burt (Aust) and Mrs Margaret Tensmeyer Burt ( USA), in which is listed "some of our service".
   There are two sections Civil and Military under the heading "Peace hath her victories not less renowned than war". There is a chief of police, a right honorable, a detective inspectior attached to the Royal Household, A poet and songwriter,Handloom weaver,inventor,translater to BBC and inventor of emergency launcher, Professor of english.
   On the Military side  we have a VC, a bugler, Guard at St Helena over Napoleon,,DCM and MM, and service in most fields of war.
Their is a branch of the family in England but I know nothing about them.
    Please PM me for further information or if there is someone who should be with our family
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Saturday 06 July 13 02:19 BST (UK)
Hi, there!

I think I might be a descendant of some of those Burt's that made the trek with the Mormon Church to Utah (not Mormon myself, but that's another story). My mom's maiden name is Burt, and the line I've traced goes back to about 1653 with a marriage of a John Burt and Agnes Whyte. Is this the same family? Any answers you might have will be helpful. Thanks!

Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Wednesday 10 July 13 03:41 BST (UK)
The Burts you mention are in our tree and it goes back a few more generations. Firstly I would like to welcome you to Rootschat which is the friendliest site on the www and has some of the cleverest people who just love to help you out. After a couple more posts people will be able to send you personnal messages.
Can I help you out with anything? Just ask away Again Welcome
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Thursday 11 July 13 02:11 BST (UK)
Greetings!

Glad to hear I've found a distant relative! I'm definitely interested in learning as much as I can. One thing that has piqued my interest is a link some people have made to James I and II and Robert the Bruce through the Agnes White I mentioned. I was wondering if you've also discovered that? I came across that pedigree this weekend so I haven't had much time to verify it through other people so I was hoping I could start here to see if anyone else who's done research on the Burt family has made the same discovery. I'd be interested to see what you've found.

I look forward to chatting more! Thanks again for the reply.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: ghostgirl on Thursday 11 July 13 03:01 BST (UK)
Hi! My mother was a Burt.  She was born in the UK but emigrated to WA.  Acouple of her great Uncles came to WA in the late 1800's, and a great great Uncle went to Sydney in the 1860's.  We have only got back to my GGG Grandfather who was a master mariner, and was apparently born in Glasgow around 1808.  Would love to know if we have a connection!!!
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Thursday 11 July 13 03:10 BST (UK)
Hi, there!

Not sure if there we would be a connection in the case of your family. I've only seen Burt's from Dunfermline in my line, but anything's possible!
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Friday 12 July 13 01:54 BST (UK)
In a recent TV show the man was very very unhappy that he was not related to Irish Aristoracy. It was a good example about not having grand expectations
Looking into your past it is really a long shot to find someone famous.The closest our family came to being famous was being buried in the same cemetery. A rootschatter told me that nearly every one has a Burt relation from Dunfermline. An American Burt has given me a 12 generation pedigree chart with room for 500 plus names.
The "John " Burt you refer to was born 10 Feb 1649 in Torry Kirk Dunfermline and died there in about 1739. John married Agnes/Annis Whyte/White on 23 June 1682 and had 8 children. Cheers gmar
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Friday 12 July 13 03:09 BST (UK)
True or not, I knew next to nothing about Scottish history until I discovered the supposed link. Glad to say I've been browsing YouTube to catch up on some Scottish history programs to learn more! I'm enthused to dig deeper and see what I can find. It's great there's a site like this that gets people in contact with others to help with research. I'm sure I'll find some good answers here!

Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: ghostgirl on Friday 12 July 13 05:32 BST (UK)
Oh well, maybe my Burts did come from the Dunfermline area once!!!  I have found that the most interesting stories in my own tree are those about normal, nonfamous people.  Perhaps I feel more of a connection with the Ag Labs and Workhouse inmates!!!!
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Saturday 13 July 13 00:27 BST (UK)
Dear ghostgirl,

Do you have any names of your uncles that came here to the States in the 1880's? I do have quite a bit of information available on my line from that time period - i might be able to give you some leads.

I too find that the most interesting stories from my family come from the lesser-known people. My grandpa for instance, Roland Burt, served in the US Army in WWII in the 97th Infantry Division. He took part in the Ruhr Pocket campaign and the final push across southern Germany during the last weeks of the war. His division was instrumental in securing Flossenburg Concentration Camp as well as burying the dead found there. It's amazing the things you can find out from family when you just ask.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: ghostgirl on Saturday 13 July 13 01:39 BST (UK)
Hi pdpmorris

It is always wonderful to know of the amazing things achieved by "ordinary" men when they were thrown into that unfamiliar situation (war).

My Burts came to Australia, sorry - I realised I put WA, which could be an American State? But I actually meant Western Australia, sorry about that. :)
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: pdpmorris on Saturday 13 July 13 01:48 BST (UK)
Ha!

Sorry, I really thought you were referring to the US state of Washington. Too funny...

Do you live in Perth? I had some friends from Perth...
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: ghostgirl on Saturday 13 July 13 05:31 BST (UK)
I am about 800km away from Perth, but it is my nearest capital city.  I have lots of rellies there.  :)
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Monday 15 July 13 02:19 BST (UK)
pdp hello again I have  sent you a personnal message as there is a size limit on posts,If you and ghost girl would like what I have on our American Burts I can send that to you cheers gmar
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Jerijd on Friday 12 December 14 20:05 GMT (UK)
Just found the website and the thread. New to the site. I am a descendant of the Burt family from Dunfermline. My great great grandfather was one of the ones that immigrated to Utah (not to join the Mormon church but to work in the coal mines there. Although he did join the church later in life) His name was John McIntosh Burt married to Isabella Lindsay. My ancestry goes back to Henrie Burt and Isobelle Browne. I am just looking for relatives and just getting started on genealogy. Hoping I can find people that will have information that I don't.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Monday 15 December 14 03:50 GMT (UK)
Well Hello possible relation,I can get back to Henri Burt as well. We will have to find out where we meet in our family trees Our Burt line came out to Australia, other Burts came as well but not related to us. I keep in contact with some Utah Burts. If this is your first post you will need another 2 posts before I can contact you off line eg send you an email etc. This is to protect people from spammers. I have been lucky to get information from many people even some on this site. They are especially helpful with brick walls so if you have any queries so ahead and ask. My grandmother was a Burt and she and her brothers and sisters came out here in the early 1900's and with some research I have found 2 more cousins with whom I correspond. Hoping to hear from you soon Cheers gmar
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Jerijd on Monday 15 December 14 17:08 GMT (UK)
it is my second post so one to go. I have my line back to Henrie and Isobell so it will be fun to figure out where the family branches off. I had no idea some of the Burt line ended up in Australia. I am in Texas USA but am from Utah.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Jerijd on Monday 15 December 14 17:10 GMT (UK)
My grandmother was a Burt also and her family came to the U.S. in the early 1900's as well. Interesting. Can't wait to figure it all out.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Gmar on Thursday 18 December 14 01:06 GMT (UK)
I think just about any Burt can trace their line back to Scotland or England.I haven't found a Burt convict. Our family left Scotland early 1900's The men had been in the Boer War and one brother returned there to South Africa and another came with his wife and her family.One brother went to Western Australia and the 4 girls went to live in Sydney New South Wales. There are other families of Burt in Australia not are not related to us-that I know of? Am willing to exchange information with you Cheers gmar
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: mjake52 on Friday 07 August 15 20:02 BST (UK)
im a descendant of Henry &  Isobell, then to John and Anna White,,William and Sarah etc.. to the San Juan Islands in Washington State..I would love to contact other lines and hear the history ...look at ....Burt Family on facebook,, or Mark S Jacobson
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: mjake52 on Tuesday 11 August 15 17:01 BST (UK)
Im from Las Vegas , nevada, USA... My grandfather Harry 1899, son of John Hutchison 1858, Son of Joesph H 1819, son of Peter H 1795, son of Peter Wilson Christian Penman, son of Andrew 1709, son of William 1683, son of John 1653 and Agnes, son of David 1626, son of Henrie  1590......I have almost all the family's of the ones listed..I would like to know the family lines in UK, Australia,Canada etc...and to contact living family members..
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Colinbburt on Friday 26 May 17 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi, just discovered the site from a tenuous search for information on Burt's in Dunfermline, and this thread was quite eye opening...Firstly I am still wet behind the ears in tracing my family tree, but I am a Burt...and I am from Dunfermline, Scotland.

It is quite incredible to think that the family line might venture out so far around the world.

Any questions about Burt's in the area, I'd be happy to try and help

(also sorry for the reply on such an old thread)
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Skoosh on Friday 26 May 17 17:26 BST (UK)
Black, in his "Surnames" has this as a Fife name. A Robert Burt witnessed a "tack" (lease) by the Abbot of Cupar 1521 & a later Robert was charged in Dundee with aiding the English 1552. Bessie Burt, Dunfermline 1590 etc'

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: M Burt on Tuesday 22 October 19 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi. I'm also a Burt of Dunfermline. Now living in New Zealand.
I trace my history back to John Davidson BURT born 1754 Dunfermline married 1774 to Agnes.
Does anyone have the historical family tree beyond 1754 and able to share with me. Thanks.
Murray Burt
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: daisy1942 on Thursday 18 June 20 23:27 BST (UK)
Hi Gmar,

I wondered if you have any "Burt" relations in Glasgow?  I  am particularly interested in  Robert Burt b 1869( ish) Maryhill Glasgow.  He married Elizabeth Shepherd.  they had 3 children James b1889, Robert b1890 and Martha b1891.

Martha married John Patrick Casey  they lived in Bonhill Street (mostly) Glasgow and they had 14 children.. Martha died in 1929

Looking forward to hearing from anyone who maybe connected to this branch of Burt/Casey
Title: Re: Burt of Dunfermline Scotland
Post by: Mukluk on Monday 13 December 21 20:23 GMT (UK)
I realise this is a very old thread. But I was just looking through a copy of a booklet about the Burts written by Alexander McDonald Burt. Must be the one and the same mentioned by Gmar in the first post.

I'm not familiar with using rootsweb so hoping I can get in contact with her or see her tree as I imagine it will very much have a lot in common with mine. I descend from Mary Ann Burt who came to live in Sydney in the early 1900's