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Title: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: hoolianama0508 on Friday 07 June 13 15:19 BST (UK)
Does anyone have information about this location in France during WW1? Below is a link which shows the label on the back of a commemorative plate.

http://www.davidcohenfineart.com/art/detail/param/2409

I am trying to figure out what battle took place in this area.
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: elinga on Friday 07 June 13 15:51 BST (UK)
hi
from what I have read Graville Sainte Honorine , part of Le Harve,  maybe that was just an art gallery where it was painted.
this is taken from Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) ;
During the First World War, Le Havre was one of the ports at which the British Expeditionary Force disembarked in August 1914. Except for a short interval during the German advance in 1914 it remained No 1 Base throughout the war and by the end of May 1917, it contained three general and two stationary hospitals, and four convalescent depots. The first Commonwealth burials took place in Division 14 of Ste Marie Cemetery in mid August 1914. Burials in Divisions 19, 3, 62 and 64 followed successively. A memorial in Plot 62 marks the graves of 24 casualties from the hospital ship 'Salta' and her patrol boat, sunk by a mine on 10 April 1917. The memorial also commemorates by name the soldiers, nurses and merchant seamen lost from the 'Salta' whose bodies were not recovered, and those lost in the sinking of the hospital ship 'Galeka' (mined on 28 October 1916) and the transport ship 'Normandy' (torpedoed on 25 January 1918), whose graves are not known. In all 1,689 Commonwealth casualties of the First World War are buried or commemorated in the cemetery.
hope this may be of some help.
regards
Elinga
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: hoolianama0508 on Friday 07 June 13 16:01 BST (UK)
Thank so much for the info Elinga! It is most helpful.

The reason I attached the link is because I have a photograph of my great-grandfather (not the gentleman on the plate) which has the same label.  I am thinking that the painting must have been done by a local artist of the area.

Unfortunately, I have not been able to find my great-grandfather's military records. All that I have is his photo. Perhaps now I might be able to stumble onto something.
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: Svenja on Friday 02 May 14 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi

Death records for Le Havre of the time of WW1 are online at the
Archives départementales de Seine-Maritime.

There you can also find death records for british soldiers and seamen.
The ones of the "Salta" and her patrol boat you find between April and June 1917.


Death Records Le Havre (http://recherche.archivesdepartementales76.net/?id=recherche_guidee_etat_civil_detail&doc=accounts%2Fmnesys_ad76%2Fdatas%2Fir%2Fserie_E_seigneuries_familles_notaires_etat_civil%2FFRAD076_IR_E_etat_civil%2Exml&node_start=1006716&start=180&page_ref=1006716)

Hope this direct link works.

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: unclejoe on Saturday 10 January 15 21:19 GMT (UK)
I have just discovered three WW1 photographs of uncles attached to wooded boards by  M. Clady of Rue des Hetres, Graville Sainte Honorine, so I guess he must have earned a fair income during those years from soldiers passing through.
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: hoolianama0508 on Sunday 11 January 15 00:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for sharing Unclejoe!  Do you happen to know what regiments they belonged to?  I am still unable to unlock the mystery of my great-grandfather's military records.  He lived in Islington, and was a drover by trade.  He was in his mid thirties when he joined.  Happily he survived the war.  Perhaps if we discover more about Monsieur Clady, we might find tip.

Did your uncles survive the war?
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: spotter2015 on Sunday 11 January 15 04:04 GMT (UK)
His name, year of birth. ?
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: unclejoe on Sunday 11 January 15 12:17 GMT (UK)
All three uncles survived but one was wounded, however 2 lived to an old age (I met them in the late 40's) the third I can find no record of after he was married in 1913.He joined in mid 1913, but was dismissed on medical grounds in mid 1914. Two belonged to The Rifle Brigade, whilst the third was a member of the A.S.C. and drove either ambulances or lorries.I hope this reply reaches you, as I am having difficulty finding my way around the web site.
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: hoolianama0508 on Sunday 11 January 15 14:16 GMT (UK)
His name, year of birth. ?

His name was William Edward Cook, born circa 1881 in the Islington area .  The family called him "Ted" and it wasn't until we got his marriage certificate that we learned about his full name.

His wife was Louisa Nash and during this time, he had three children - Rose Annie (b 1907), Edward John (1908), and Mary Ann (b 1913).  He also had Louisa (b 1915) who was my nan.  On her birth certificate, it lists him as an ostler and private in the military but it does not give his regiment.

Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: hoolianama0508 on Sunday 11 January 15 14:18 GMT (UK)
I hope this reply reaches you, as I am having difficulty finding my way around the web site.

Yes , I am receiving your messages.
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: spotter2015 on Wednesday 14 January 15 17:39 GMT (UK)
There were only 2 birth registrations that match that name combination, timeframe, and location.

1880 in Poplar Registration District and 1881 in Shoreditch Registration District, none in Islington Registration District,...Shoreditch sounds like the likeliest, it's near Islington, and Poplar is about 10 miles away.

William Edward Cook birth registered Oct/Nov/Dec quarter of 1881 Shoreditch Registration District Volume 1C Page 143 http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Shoreditch registers are now held by Hackney
http://www.hackney.gov.uk/births-historical-searches.htm#

http://www.hackney.gov.uk/births.htm#
Title: Re: WW1 France: Help with place name, Graville Sainte Honorine
Post by: katiespitfire on Sunday 23 August 15 11:51 BST (UK)
Monr.Clady must have been incredibly busy! I'm looking at two pieces of his work here, one on a plate, the other on board in a frame.

:)