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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: susancooper79 on Wednesday 19 June 13 13:45 BST (UK)
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Hi there was wondering if anyone has any information on the Pearsons of Coldstream I have a Robert Pearson Born around 1870 Coldsteam married Annie and his father also Robert apparently born around 1850 if anyone has any information i would be grateful as havent been able to go very far with this side of the family Thankyou
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Hi Susan and Welcome :)
is it possible for you to give info on his place and date of marriage, etc. and if you've find him on the censues, where and which ones, please? I'm having probs finding a birth reg for him in Berwickshire/Coldtream, etc. at the moment.
Gadget
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I see you have a tree on Ancestry. I'll see if I can find anything to add :)
Added - I don't think your 1911 ref is correct - he seems a wee bit old , aged 67. Also he seems to have been in Australia by then :-\
Gadget
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Hi and thankyou for replying so quickly....im not sure but this is the info i was given Robert Pearson born around 1870 Coldstream died date unknown Bendigo Victoria Australia married Wilhemina McPherson (Minnie) ......and then Roberts Father Robert born around 1850 Coldstream married to Alison Rannie. My Ancestry tree im always changing around :). Thats what i was told by a great aunt she did say that there could be a few surprises in there whatever that meant one can only guess.
Thanks again
Sue
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Not sure if this is of any help to you.
There is a Robert Pearson buried at the Bendigo Cemetery.
Date of burial is 2 January 1900 grave # 15798
Coincidently in the same grave is Wilhelemina Pearson, date of burial 22 October 1929
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If that is the correct Robert here is his funeral notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticleJpg/89473355/3?print=n
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I don't know if is just the cold, but, I'm confused
Robert Pearson Born around 1870 Coldsteam married Annie
Robert Pearson born around 1870 Coldstream died date unknown Bendigo Victoria Australia married Wilhemina McPherson (Minnie) ......
So are we looking for Robert married to Annie or Robert married to Wilhemina ??? Or both ???
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Again more confusion for me
Roberts Father Robert born around 1850 Coldstream married to Alison Rannie.
I found some Coldstream Births and marriages and it has the following;
Robert Pearson married Alison Rannie 24 June 1825 (you have birth of 1850 so can't be him)
Children of Robert Pearson and Alison Rannie all born in Coldstream;
John Pearson born 15 January 1826
David Pearson born 21 June 1827
Janet Pearson born 17 June 1829
Mary Pearson born 20 June 1831
Isabella Pearson born 24 October 1836
James Rannie Pearson born 11 March 1838 died 1856 aged 17
Robert Pearson born 3 March 1840 (also does not fit with your date of 1870)
George Pearson born 20 July 1843
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Hi
A death record for Robert in the Australian Death Index - death registered 1900 (as Drop Bear's info). Aged 46 (so born about 1854). Parents - John Pearson and Margaret Gladstone.
Gadget
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Married Minnie Mcpherson in 1881, Victoria. Reg no. 3795
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Marriage of JohnPearson and Margaret Gladstone- Coldstream 1848:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTLW-4LW
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Children of John and Margaret:
Mary York Pearson https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTYR-TJR
Robert Pearson https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTYT-9MH
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Bugger, you're quick Gadget ;D ;D
I just found that one too.
I'll stay out of this one for now until I establish who I'm looking for ??? ???
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How about this ;D
It looks as if Margaret Gladstone might have died:
1861 Duke Street, Coldstream
John Pearson, 42, shoemaker journeyman
Catherine, w, 36
John, s, 14, shoemaker ap
Margaret,d, 12
george, s, 10
Robert, s, 8
Elisabeth, d, 6
James, sm 4
Andrew, s, 7 mths
Betty Richardson,mother, wid, 80
All born Coldstream
see below - family are in Northumberland in 1851!
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Andrew Pearson born 22 Aug 1860, Duke Street, Colstream.
Parents - John Pearson, shoemaker, journeyman and Catherine, m.s. Cookburn
John Pearson, mother's name Richardson, died Coldstream in 1861, aged 44
Wrong family
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Drop Bear -
Do you have access to Victoria records - to check on children of Robert and Minnie ?
Gadget
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The remains of the family in 1871:
24 Duke Street, Coldstream
Catherine Pearson, wid, 46, shoemaker's widow/washerwoman
James, s, 14
Andrew, s, 10
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Not sure about John the shoemaker and Margaret Gladstone:
1851
East Market Place, Coldstream
John Pearson, 32, shoemaker,
Catherine, w, 24
John, 7
Margaret, 5
George, 3
Elizabeth, mother, 70
All b. Coldstream
Will investigste further - see below
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On Mary York Pearson's baptism of 2nd Jan 1853, John Pearson is recorded as a baker with wife Margaret Gladstone, so the shoemaker is the wrong one!
Sorry
Gadget
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:)
Found the family in 1851 in Sea Houses, Northumberland
HO107/2420/114/7
John Pearson, 25, baker, b. Scotland
Margaret, w, 19, b. do
Robert, s, 2, b. do
Walter, s, 1 mth, b. North Sunderland, Northumberland
Gadget
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The family in 1861
2 Lever Place, Hulme, Manchester
RG9/2899/56/12
Margaret Pearson, hd, mar, 29, proprietor of houses, b. Scotland
Robert, s, 12. printer's boy, b. do
Walter, s. 10, b. Northumberland, Sunderland - this would be North Sunderland
Jane? Gladston, sister, 19, dressmaker, b. Scotland
Gadget
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Just wondering if this might be Robert in 1871:
RG10/5779/81/3
Royal Navy Vessels
Vessel: Blanche. Station: Australia. In Bass Straits, Australia on census night
Robert Pearson, leading seaman, 22, b. Scotland
Gadget
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How quick you guys are :) i seem to have only confused the situation as for the ancestry tree its being changed all the time a work in progress. The info earlier i should have added that the birth dates are
not proven dates.
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Hi just wanted to mention my Ggrandfather Lawrence Robert Pearson b1898 d1960 was Robert and Minnies eldest son. :)
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sorry for all the confusion :)
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Did he marry Eva Catherine Mannix ???
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Drop Bear -
Do you have access to Victoria records - to check on children of Robert and Minnie ?
Gadget
Willhemenia McPherson married Robert Pearson 1881 Golden Square Bendigo
Children of Wilhemenia & Robert are;
Jessie Margaret Pearson Born 1882 Bendigo
John William Pearson Born 1884 Bendigo Died 1976 Bendigo
Walter Scott Pearson Born 1888 Kangaroo Flat Died 1958 Bendigo
Maggie Selena Pearson Born 1890 Kangaroo Flat
Russell McPherson Pearson Born 1895 Bendigo
Lawrence Robert Pearson Born 1898 Bendigo Died 1960 Coburg
Eva May Pearson – Died 1965 Bendigo
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Seems that mother's and father's names might be there in the first two children - Jessie Margaret and John William . Also a Walter - his brother was a Walter.
Any occupation listed for him?
Gadget
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Hi again yes Lawrence married Eva Catherine Mannix and my Grandfather was the ldest of that union his name was Walter Patrick Pearson
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hi again Susan
I'm a bit concerned about the dates/names that you have as I've found another one that's a bit out :-\
you asked:
.....and then Roberts Father Robert born around 1850 Coldstream married to Alison Rannie.
Sue
This is the best link to a marriage that I've been able to come up with:
Marriage/Banns 24 June 1825, Coldstream - Robert Pearson and Alison Rannie.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTLW-V31
Could you perhaps give us the info you have, with sources, as it's a bit difficult to get back further than the Robert, b. 1848, who married Minnie and died Bendigo 1900. This one's parents were John Pearson and Margaret Gladstone, as previously mentioned and followed up on the censuses.
Gadget
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Hi Gadget thankyou for all your help...most of my info has come from family and internet sources....im starting to think that theres a generation missing im wondering if John Pearson and Margaret Gladstone are Roberts parents then its possible that Robert Pearson and Alison Rannie are John Pearsons parents...
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Looks like the missing link, Susan :D
1841 High Street South, Coldstream
Robert Pearson, 49, baker, not born Berwickshire
Alison, 30
John, 15
David, 13
Mary, 10
Others b. Berwickshire
Gadget
Added - so it looks maybe like this
Robert Pearson and Alison Rannie
John Pearson and Margaret Gladstone
Robert Pearson and Minnie McPherson
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Hi Gadget thankyou so much for your assistance i had no idea that John or Margaret existed but know it makes sense..... :) may be able to go forward .......again thankyou so much for your help.Regards
Sue
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This might explain the naming of John and Margaret's children:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTYR-LMR
Gadget
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Children to Walter and Mary in Coldstream. Full details are on Familysearch:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0usm/
1831 - Margaret
1833- George
1834 - William
1836 - Elizabeth
1839 - Mary
1841 - Jane (with Margaret on the 1861- my Reply#20)
1844 - Isabella
1847 - William
1848 - Agnes
Gadget