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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: oliebarton on Friday 21 June 13 16:47 BST (UK)
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Hi
Tried a bit of time trying to find out what happened to John Buckley to no avail so thought if ask for help.
John Buckley born 12th Feb 1857 in Glossop marries Sarah Shepley in 1876. They have two children John James Buckley and Emily Buckley. The last information I have of John is the 1881 census where he is living with his grandfather John Dixon at 183 High St East occupation Coal Carter.
His wife dies on the 13th of Jan 1888 and her occupation is 'widow of John Buckley Coal Carter'. Sarah isn't buried with John either.
I don't know what happened to him or a likely death certificate so any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Olie
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Hi
have you got Sarah and the children in the 1881 census?
Heather
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Is this Sarah and Emily? Do you know when John James was born?
1881
30 Milltown, Glossop
William Newton 37
Elizabeth Newton 29
Samuel W. Newton 8
Sarah E. Newton 6
Elizabeth H. Newton 5
Mary A. Newton 2
Wm.Robert Newton 1
Sarah Buckley 26 lodger
Emily Buckley 1
3458/44/33
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Hi Heather
Thanks for your message.
Yes that's the correct Sarah, she's currently with her sisters family on the 1881 census.
John James was born on the 11th August 1877 born 183 High Street East. John James on the 1881 census is is with his gran and her second husband James Hallas at the George & Dragon pub in Charlesworth.
On John James marriage certificate in 1900 his father is given as John but isn't mentioned as deceased, although appreciate that wasn't always stated if they were indeed dead.
Thanks
Olie
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Hi
I have found a tree with him in.
It says that he died in Glossop in 1890 aged 35. The evidence that they have is a will.
McClintock family tree
Heather
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Hi Heather
Thanks for looking again. I'm aware of that tree as I've done research for Bob McClincock but that's not the right John Buckley. I thought it was originally and Bob took the information from my tree after i found a registered death in Hayfield in 1890 but when i researched it i found his burial details and he was older when he died than my John Buckley. The John Buckley mentioned in the will died in Rochdale and the details in the will means it would not be mine either.
My Gran who would be the granddaughter of John Buckley once said that he may have moved to Canada as John James (my Grans father) was brought up by his grandmother at the George & Dragon pub. When I ask her more about this she no longer remembers. (She's 99).
How can I go about looking at emigration records as I've never researched them before and don't know where to start? I guess if it was true he would have left between 1881 & 1888
Thanks
Olie
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Hi Olie:
You could post a question on the Canada Board here on rootschat for a start. Here is the Library and Archives Canada site to look at.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html
sami
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Cheers will do
Just can't find him and there is no real evidence to say he did go but will start looking at this possibility
Thanks
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Hi Olie:
Had a quick look at Canadian passenger arrivals after 1881 and did come across a John Buckley, 26, Lab., traveling as a single man on the ‘Sardinian’. The ship departed from Liverpool and arrived at Quebec, Que - 1882/09/10. I’ve attached the link to his name on the ship’s passenger list.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0uss/
Its a long shot and nothing to say that it is your John Buckley, but just thought I’d pass it along.
sami
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Hi Olie. I note your original post was some time ago (2013) but I came across it while Google searching for Dixon and Glossop. In your original search the name "John Dixon" and the address "183 High Street East, Glossop" are highly relevant. John Dixon was my Grt-x3 Grandfather. He and at least 2 of his sons (William James and George Henry Dixon) plus my great grandfather Herbert Dixon ran a coal business from the High Street East address and form Glossop Railway Yard.
We may have information to exchange!
Rick
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Hello Rick and welcome to RootsChat.
olidebeak posted this topic in 2013 but he has been active a few months ago, he will be notified of your reply and hopefully will reply soon.
Regards
Sarah
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Hi Rick
Good to hear from you! 7 years since the post, time flies!
Right, we must be distantly related then. I have John Dixon 1808-1901 as my 4 grt grandfather.
I have him marrying a Sarah Green and they went on to have quite a lot of children including William and George Henry. My grt x 3 gran was Ann, sister to those 2. She became a Buckley before either divorcing (which I doubt) or becoming a bigamist and marrying a James Hallas. She was the landlady at the George and Dragon in Charleworth if you know it? That’s where my Dixon’s end.
I think from doing research I have them originating from the Leigh area of Manchester. West of Manchester anyway. Do you have the same?
I managed to find John Dixon’s headstone and burial plot up at Glossop Cemetery. I have a picture of it that your welcome to have if you don’t already have it?
Anyway I’ll wait to hear.
Olie
p.s I still haven’t found out what happened to my John Buckley
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Hi Olie,
Yes this is making sense. My info was only that John Dixon died aged 92 - your dates fit with this perfectly. I didn't have his wife's name (Sarah Green) for which many thanks. Part of the problem was that my great grandparents moved from Glossop to Peacehaven, Sussex, after a bout of TB which broke the family memory. My father therefore only got partial information via his grandmother. I have pieced together a potential family tree of recent information from John Dixon down which adds to definite information I already had.
I'm happy to share this with you. Is there a way of adding a pdf to this thread? If so I can't find it!
Rick
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Hi Rick,
Yes you can attach a .pdf to your posting, you are looking for a button that says "attach" it is just below the box in which you type in.
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah.
R
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Hi Olie,
Thanks to Sarah, attached is the tree I am currently suggesting.
Rick
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Hi Rick
Thanks for the pdf. I haven’t researched any of the siblings of Anne so thanks for this. I’ll save it.
Sarah Green 1811-1881 was born in Skelmanthorpe, Yorkshire. They married 1829.
Are you on ancestry? My tree is public on there and shows the Dixon family. I have got as far as a Henry Dixon which was Johns grt grandfather.
If not I’ll screen shot it from my phone and email you it along with John Dixon’s gravestone. He lived quite long 93 years which 100 years ago would have been quite rare I expect.
Olie
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Hi Olie,
I don't have Ancestry. It's on my Christmas list! A screen shot would be great.
Rick
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Rick
It said the screenshot is to large to send. If you wish to send me your email I’ll send them to you
Olie
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Hi Olie.
That's rickdixonmail@gmail.com
Cheers
Rick