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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Isle of Man Lookup Requests => Topic started by: harr2jas on Wednesday 26 June 13 05:03 BST (UK)
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Dear Forum,
I am seeking to assistance to try and locate details for my Huntley family line. Thomas and Mary Huntley residing in Onchan in 1881 census states England as birth place. 5 children listed as born Douglas IOM.
I have located a possible reference to a wedding for Thomas James Huntley to Mary Ann Simpson in 1864 (Thomas James Huntley father as witness). Are there any documents/records that may list where in england they came from regards Jason Australia
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On Family Search at one of their children's Florence's christening the mother middle (maiden?) name is listed as Waller
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5GW-HXX
So maybe this is their marriage in the Isle of Man in 1865
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKDQ-NMV
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Hi
1881 RG11 5603 27 page 12 #20 Lord Street, Couchan
[ The daughter is Florence W bc1874 ]
Thomas, 36, Mary 40, Mary 16, Thomas, 13, Alice 12 . . . . . . . .
Thomas is listed as "Ironmonger and General Dealer"
Living with them is Thomas' unmarried sister-in-law Matilda Luff 29 born Douglas IoM
[ amend = "Duff" found in next post ]
1871 RG10 5776 84 page 9 #21 Lord Street
[ Thomas not present but is a Butler ]
Mary 31 , Mary 6, Thomas 3, Alice 2.
Ray
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1n 1851 Mary Waller was living in Douglas I o M and listed at the daughter of the Duff family with sister Matilda
James Duff 33 Ireland
Mary Duff 37 England Liverpool
Mary Waller 13
Matilda 1
(In 1901 Florence is listed as born in 1881)
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Well done Kay !
[ amend, better found ]
1871 looks like Thomas may be listed as Thomas Hunter 23 unmarried servant born Ouchan ?
(may be he hadn't been there long?)
RG10 5772 6 page 18 Balla Quinney "Moat"(?)
Ray
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Hi
Possible marriage in FreeBMD quarter llisting of 8 names
Marriage Sep 1845 Liverpool 20 312
James Duff
Mary Whalley
So dau Mary "probably" not a Duff then . . . . .
Ray
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Ray - Quite like the 1871 Hunter - but where is he pre 1871?
Kay
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Hi
Me, typical southerner, no geographical knowledge north of Tring . . . . .
Birth Jun 1841 Liverpool 20 416 Mary Ann Whalley
If it don't say Liverpool on the tin ......................
Ray
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Hi
Gap filling in case clue comes up / forward to go back
1891 34 Circular Road, Hardware shop
RG12 4688 23 page 5
Mary 52 Married Shopkeeper Ironmongers b England
[ Note 1881 Thomas listed as "Ironmonger and General Dealer" ]
Thomas 23
Alice 22
Gertie 19
Emmy 18
Robert 15
Florrie 12
Herbert 9
Matilda Duff 39
1891 RG12 4690 20 p10
? "Ruby", Paddle Road, Braddan IoM
Thos Huntley 46 Butler (to William L Drinkwater) England
Ray
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to help non-Manx - Conchan is old name for Onchan - this is parish north of Douglas - pre Douglas becoming a borough in 1860's all of Douglas bar a very small amount on South Quay was in the civil parish of Onchan but in the ecclesiastical parish of Braddan. (Lord street is in the heart of old Douglas - Big Well street where the Duffs were in 1841 was the continuation of Lord street westward and after the slum clearance of late 1890's the redeveloped road became Lord street along all its length)
Balla Quinney moar (or mooar = Manx for big used to distinguish from BQ beg (or small))
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Hi
Never fails to amaze what you can pickup on Rootschat.
I can now use Manx in the pub ;D
"Just a mooar one, then" or "a swift beg before I go"
CHEERS!
Ray
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On Family Search at one of their children's Florence's christening the mother middle (maiden?) name is listed as Waller
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5GW-HXX
So maybe this is their marriage in the Isle of Man in 1865
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKDQ-NMV
Manx baptisms tend to quote the mother's maiden name - and this doesn't get transcribed properly by FamilySearch!
Using Lawson's BMD database (http://www.iomfhs.im/lawsons/LawsonBMD/births/ha.html). the baptism for Florence shows her parents as:
Thomas Huntley and Mary Waller.
Ray - try Traa di Looar = Time enough.
It's like manana, without the urgency! ;D
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Maybe this is him in 1871 - Working at Cronkbourne House, Braddan as a servant with other servants - Listed as married
HUNTLY, Thomas Servant 26 England
RG10 piece 5777 folio 39 page 5
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Hi
Still resolutely born England the pair of them
1901 RG13 5305 108 p9
14 Athol Terrace Peel Road Ouchan
Thomas 56 Boarding Housekeeper
Mary 60 Tin & Hardware Shopkeeper
Alice 27
Emily 24
Florence 20
Herbert 18
Matilda Duff 40
Ray
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Hi
Tidy up =
1871 Ancestry had Thomas as "Hunsly" - So prefer Kay's answer to mine.
Thomas' son Thomas lists himself as Thomas Waller Huntley if anyone wants to search for him in the census we can't look up for anyone.
Ray
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Burial for Thomas senior:
24th April 1908 at Braddan
Thomas Huntley, aged 63
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Wills References for both Thomas and Mary Huntley may be listed here
http://www.iomfhs.im/lawsons/LawsonBMD/wills/ho-will.html?Submit=Hoar++-+Hynes
Kay
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Aha! Clues from the iMuseum entry! ;D
Marriage, 11th January 1865 at Braddan
Thomas Huntley, Bachelor, father Robert Huntley
Mary Waller, Spinster, father James Waller
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Well found ;D
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So, all we have to do is answer the original question.
???
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Hi
Proposal #1
1851 HO107 2419 271 p33
1851 Lesbury Northumberland
Robt Huntley Head 47 Northd, Shillbottle
Mary Huntley Wife 42 Northd, Nk
Elizabeth Huntley Daughter 18 Northd, Shillbottle
John Huntley Son 14 Northd, Lesbury
William Huntley Son 12 Northd, Lesbury
Robert Huntley Son 11 Northd, Lesbury
Joseph Huntley Son 10 Northd, Lesbury
Thomas Huntley Son 7 Northd, Lesbury
James Huntley Son 3 Northd, Lesbury
Jane Huntley Daughter 2 Northd, Lesbury
BUT That is east coast and a long way from IsleofMan / Liverpool.
Isn't it? ;D
Ray
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Seconded - I think mistranscribed as Hartley (edit on Ance. shown as Handley) in 1871 as below working as a postman in Easington Durham. I can't see him after that year
HARTLEY, Thomas 18 Postman b Lesbury, Northumberland
RG09 piece 3746 folio 19 page 38
Kay
Edit - a far distance south by 1871
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Many thanks to everyone for all your time and effort, very much appreciated. Regards Jason