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Title: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Carole on Wednesday 03 July 13 12:53 BST (UK)
 Oh my I just lost my origional message so here I go again.
Francis/Frank/Francois PALZEAIRD 1863.born Guernsey farther born France.
Married Amanda Seale of Jersey.
1901 census listed as Francis all matching that far back.
Daughters marriage certificate listed as father Frank Palzeaird (sailor) but in witness as Francois George. Thanks for your help so far, maybe this will help. xxx
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 03 July 13 13:44 BST (UK)
is this the family on the 1901 census: -

Francis Palzeaird, 38, Horse Carter on farm, wife Amanda C, 36, Amanda L.M 5, Francis G, 4, Kenneth P., 1, Arthur W 3 months.

All born Guernsey except wife Amanda born Jersey.

Ref: RG13 piece 5323 folio 94 page 14
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 03 July 13 13:49 BST (UK)
1881 census think he's Frank Palziar, aged 18, farm servant (YOB given as 1863) ref RG11 piece 5621 folio 59 page 10.
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 03 July 13 15:25 BST (UK)
Just a thought that the surname may changed or been mistranscribed

There is this family in 1871 Living at Folligny House, St Brelade, St Aubin, Jersey with son Francis born in Guernsey in 1863

PALLIARD, John    Head 43    1828 b France - Stone Dresser
PALLIARD, Judith    Wife    49     b Sark
PALLIARD, Thomas    Son 10 b Guernsey       
PALLIARD, Francis    Son    8 b Guernsey
CARRE, Albertine    Daughter-In-Law 8    b Sark

RG10 Piece 5764 Folio 11 Page 19

And I think the family in 1861 prior to the first wife's death living at  35, Boriet, St Peter Port

PAILLARD, John B Head 33 Stone Dresser b France    
PAILLARD, Clotilde Married   36 b St Peter Port, Guernsey       
PAILLARD, Theodore    Son 3  b St Peter Port, Guernsey       
PAILLARD, Thomas    Son  1 b St Peter Port, Guernsey

RG09 Piece 4379 Folio 47 Page 9

In 1891 I think Theodore (above in 1861) is listed as Theodor Pallzia living with his siblings and  father Jean
RG12 Piece 4703 Folio 7 Page 7

Kay
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 03 July 13 15:49 BST (UK)
That's brilliant Kay - I've been playing around with variants all afternoon & didn't think of those  ;D

Here's another family which may fit then - from familysearch & listed under Palzier: -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ4N-6YH
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 03 July 13 15:53 BST (UK)
Yes I was just about to post this and might as well as typed it out - Should have been doing something else but this is fascinating

Possible in 1881 with Jean/John remarried again listed as a stone dresser and living in St Peter Port

PALZIER, Jean B Married 52 Stone Dresser b Cherbourg, France   
PALZIER, Ann M    Wife    Married  27    b Cherbourg, France       
PALZIER, John B    Son    M    7  b Jersey, Channel Islands       
PALZIER, Anostarie    Daughter 5   b Guernsey, Channel Islands    
PALZIER, Charles    Son 3  St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands    
PALZIER, James E F    Son     1 St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands

RG11; Piece: 5627; Folio: 9; Page: 12
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 03 July 13 16:00 BST (UK)
I know what you mean Kay  ;D much more interesting than working  :)
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 03 July 13 16:22 BST (UK)
Another version of the name with Clemence in 1901 Living at 26, 27, Saumarez Street, St Peter Port

DAVIS, Albert L    Head  34 Electrical Engineer b Normandy Brit Subject       
DAVIS, Kathleen Wife    32  b Tasmania Brit Subject Australia       
DAVIS, Greswold L O    Son    5  b England
PALZARD, Clemence L Servant    21  Cook Domestic St Peter Port,Guernsey       
WHITE, Alice M    Servant 19 Nursemaid Domestic b England

RG13 piece 5321 folio 21 page 6
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Carole on Thursday 04 July 13 05:21 BST (UK)
Oh my I just lost my origional message so here I go again.
Francis/Frank/Francois PALZEAIRD 1863.born Guernsey farther born France.
Married Amanda Seale of Jersey.
1901 census listed as Francis all matching that far back.
Daughters marriage certificate listed as father Frank Palzeaird (sailor) but in witness as Francis George. Thanks for your help so far, maybe this will help. xxx
[/Wifes death certificate 1932 Francois George Palzeaird quote]
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Carole on Thursday 04 July 13 05:23 BST (UK)
is this the family on the 1901 census: -

Francis Palzeaird, 38, Horse Carter on farm, wife Amanda C, 36, Amanda L.M 5, Francis G, 4, Kenneth P., 1, Arthur W 3 months.

All born Guernsey except wife Amanda born Jersey.

Ref: RG13 piece 5323 folio 94 page 14
[/Yes these are the right people.quote]
Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 06 July 13 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,

I can't see the PALZEAIRD name transcribed as this prior to your ancestor Francis in 1901  or history of the name prior to this date.

Just to ilustrate how names can change with accents, spelling and mistranscription  I posted before a possible siblings/family of Frances as below including a John born 1872 in Jersey.


Possible in 1881 with Jean/John remarried again listed as a stone dresser and living in St Peter Port

PALZIER, Jean B Married 52 Stone Dresser b Cherbourg, France   
PALZIER, Ann M    Wife    Married  27    b Cherbourg, France       
PALZIER, John B    Son    M    7  b Jersey, Channel Islands       
PALZIER, Anostarie    Daughter 5   b Guernsey, Channel Islands    
PALZIER, Charles    Son 3  St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands    
PALZIER, James E F    Son     1 St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands

RG11; Piece: 5627; Folio: 9; Page: 12

In 1901 there is the possible same John as below listed as a mate/sailor on sailing ketch Sirius of Guernsey

PALZEARD, John Mate Married   29    1872 b Jersey, Channel Islands    

Good Luck Kay


Title: Re: Francis Palzeaird
Post by: Carole on Sunday 07 July 13 04:51 BST (UK)
is this the family on the 1901 census: -

Francis Palzeaird, 38, Horse Carter on farm, wife Amanda C, 36, Amanda L.M 5, Francis G, 4, Kenneth P., 1, Arthur W 3 months.

All born Guernsey except wife Amanda born Jersey.

Ref: RG13 piece 5323 folio 94 page 14
yes this is the family