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Title: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 12:54 BST (UK)
Sorry in advance if this is long and confusing. There are so many people here who are great with finding records, I thought it I would give it a go and ask here.


I am looking for a connection between a living person and my family

My family has told me *living*  is the grandson of my ggrandmothers sister.

I have found 2 birth dates for him, I'm also having a hard time linking him to  my family.


My ggrandmother is a hard woman to trace the name she used is Kathleen Lynch.
b: 1892 d:1970
Her death record shows her as Catherine ( Apparently her name was Catherine but hated it so made everyone call her Kathleen.
She married Louis Stanley Whitby 1897-1980

Apparently she had a brother named James Mory Lynch b: 1885 - d: unknown
James married Mildred Whitby:1895-1983

( Mildred Whitby and Louis Whitby were brother and sister)
( kathleen/Catherine and James were brother and sister)

I don't Kathleen's parents names and don't know any info about any other siblings.

I have found some death info about *living's*  wife, her name was Karen Moore she died 28 Feb 2013
Title: Re: Steve Folkes
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 July 13 13:00 BST (UK)
Sorry but we aren't allowed to post details of living people. It's explained in the Help pages-
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php
Title: Re: Steve Folkes
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 13:05 BST (UK)
Oh yes sorry, I knew that. I didn't even think. I will edit my post.

Even help in tracing kathleen/catherine and her brother might help
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: rosball on Sunday 07 July 13 13:29 BST (UK)

deleted as wrong

  Ros
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: rosball on Sunday 07 July 13 14:28 BST (UK)
Death notice for Louis Stanley Whitby ... SMH 22 March 1980

WHITBY Louis Stanley March 21 1980 of Kingswood dearly loved husband of Catherine (deceased),
loving father of L. MM,H,LC, VM loved father-in-law , grandfather and great grandfather of their families ages 83 years

regards,
   Ros
(will pm the names)
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 14:40 BST (UK)
Death notice for Louis Stanley Whitby ... SMH 22 March 1980

WHITBY Louis Stanley March 21 1980 of Kingswood dearly loved husband of Catherine (deceased),
loving father of L. MM,H,LC, VM loved father-in-law , grandfather and great grandfather of their families ages 83 years

regards,
   Ros
(will pm the names)

Thank you :)

H was my grandfather - Hugh Whitby died in 2001
We know a lot of information about the Whitby side of our family but all the other parts are very hard to trace.
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 07 July 13 14:54 BST (UK)
If you took the time to search the NSW BDM yourself would find her details along with her siblings.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search

Birth:

LYNCH CATHERINE M b. 1887 BOOROWA #16413
Parents: PATRICK J & MARIA       

Death:

WHITBY CATHERINE MARY d. 1970 #44953 PENRITH
Parents: PATRICK JOSEPH & MARIA    
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 07 July 13 14:58 BST (UK)
Parents marriage:

LYNCH PATRICK JOSEPH m. FITZGERALD MARIA 1876 YOUNG #4693
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 15:07 BST (UK)
If you took the time to search the NSW BDM yourself would find her details along with her siblings.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search

Birth:

LYNCH CATHERINE M b. 1887 BOOROWA #16413
Parents: PATRICK J & MARIA       

Death:

WHITBY CATHERINE MARY d. 1970 #44953 PENRITH
Parents: PATRICK JOSEPH & MARIA

Thank you , I have searched the index and I do have those details.
I am more trying to trace her sisters family tree to try and make a connection with *living*
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 07 July 13 15:14 BST (UK)
My ggrandmother is a hard woman to trace the name she used is Kathleen Lynch. b: 1892 d:1970
Her death record shows her as Catherine ( Apparently her name was Catherine but hated it so made everyone call her Kathleen.
I don't Kathleen's parents names and don't know any info about any other siblings.
Thank you , I have searched the index and I do have those details.
I am more trying to trace her sisters family tree to try and make a connection with *living*

Well that's not what you wrote above  :-\

So, which sister do you need to trace? They are on the BDM.
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 15:19 BST (UK)
My ggrandmother is a hard woman to trace the name she used is Kathleen Lynch. b: 1892 d:1970
Her death record shows her as Catherine ( Apparently her name was Catherine but hated it so made everyone call her Kathleen.
I don't Kathleen's parents names and don't know any info about any other siblings.
Thank you , I have searched the index and I do have those details.
I am more trying to trace her sisters family tree to try and make a connection with *living*

Well that's not what you wrote above  :-\

So, which sister do you need to trace? They are on the BDM.

Sorry about that, I had to edit my post cause I posted info about a living person.
I didn't have complete proof about her parents cause of the confusion of Kathleen/ Catherine

kathleen has been on some of her kids birth records.

I'm not sure what sister it is I need to trace and i can't name the living person, sorry for wasting everyone's time. I really appreciate all the help though. I think I am allowed to PM living names ?
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 07 July 13 15:20 BST (UK)
Yes, you can PM the names...
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 15:23 BST (UK)
If anyone would like to help send me a PM and I will send you the names.
Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 15:28 BST (UK)
BDM Index 7070/1921

Kathleen M Lynch and  Louis S Whitby
Date: 1921   Place: Chatswood, New South Wales
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Sunday 07 July 13 15:29 BST (UK)
BDM Index   20487/1894
Name:    Catherine M Lynch
Father:    Patrick Lynch
Birth:    1894 - Marrickville, New South Wales

BDM Index   16413/1887
Name:    Catherine M Lynch
Mother:    Maria
Father:    Patrick J Lynch
Birth:    1887 - Burrowa, New South Wales

BDM index   8643/1892
Name:    Catherine M Lynch
Father:    Joseph L Lynch
Birth:    1892 - Broken Hill, New South Wales
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 07 July 13 16:40 BST (UK)
This appears to be Catherine's brother, James who married Mildred
Marriage of James LYNCH and Mildred WHITBY; Queanbeyan; BDM Ref: 11449/1913
Death: James LYNCH; Father Patrick Joseph; Mother Maria; Paddington; BDM Ref: 3166/1955
At Rookwood Catholic Cemetery: (same plot) SEC*M2*18**3898
LYNCH- James M; age 74; DOD 2nd Feb 1955; Service 3 Feb 1955
LYNCH- Mildred; age 88; DOD 14th Dec 1983; Service 19 Dec 1983    
LYNCH- James Bernard; age 69; DOD 3rd Apr 1989; Service 30th Nov 1989 (Cremated Remains) Reg No 95467

Will PM details of SMH notices

cheers :)
cupoflife   
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 07 July 13 18:54 BST (UK)
Marriage: Patrick Joseph LYNCH and Maria FITZGERALD; Young; BDM Ref:I4693/1876
Might be worth checking out some of the NSW Births to Patrick J LYNCH and Maria
Patrick Joseph LYNCH; Father Patrick Joseph; Mother Maria; Young; Bdm Ref: 23695/1877
Hugh William LYNCH; Father Patrick Joseph; Mother Maria; Young; Bdm Ref: 26638/1879
James LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Balmain; Bdm Ref: 3870/1881
Few other LYNCH births in Sydney to a Patrick (no middle name) and Maria around this time.
Margaret G LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Boorowa; Bdm Ref:  15299/1885
Frances Elizabeth LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Boorowa; Bdm Ref: 13046/1883
Catherine M LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Boorowa; Bdm Ref: 16413/1887
Maria A J LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Boorowa; Bdm Ref:  16006/1889
Patrick J LYNCH; Father Patrick J; Mother Maria; Boorowa; Bdm Ref:  9100/1891

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 07 July 13 20:31 BST (UK)
Possible link?
Marriage: Margaret G. LYNCH and Sydney A PRESTON; Annandale; Bdm Ref:4089/1910
Death: Margaret Geraldine PRESTON; Father Patrick Joseph; Mother Maria; Newtown; BDM Ref:21131/1943
Death: Sidney Atcheson PRESTON; Father James; Mother Vivannah Mercia; Parramatta; BDM Ref: 21969/1956
Death: Hazel Mary PRESTON; Father Sidney Atcheson; Mother Margaret Geraldine; Newtown; BDM Ref: 12310/1938
Death: Muriel Margaret PRESTON; Father Sidney Atcheson; Mother Margaret Geraldine; Marrickville; BDM Ref: 20258/1943

Margaret PRESTON funeral notice SMH 14 July 1943 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17856563? mentions 4 brothers Gerald, Hugh, James & Patrick.
Muriel Margaret PRESTON: DOD 20th July 1943 age 28- http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17857144? mentions 4 sisters Mrs Page, Mrs Boyd, Mrs Folkes and a brother.
Muriel Margaret PRESTON funeral notice: Rookwood C of E: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17857302?
“Return Thanks” for Margaret and Muriel PRESTON http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17859811

Rookwood Cemetery: Margaret G PRESTON; age 58; Service 14 Jul 1943; SEC*M2*15**3001
Rookwood Cemetery: Hazel M PRESTON; age 17; Service 19 May 1938; SEC*M2*L**308; and (same plot) Maria LYNCH; age 26; Service 29 Jan 1917

cheers :)
cupoflife
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: majm on Monday 08 July 13 00:34 BST (UK)

kathleen has been on some of her kids birth records.


Hi Leanne,

Are you referring to the actual record, or only to the database entry you have perhaps found online at a commercial website....   It is a NO NO at RChat to copy paste from those databases (reply # 15 or thereabouts).  If you have the actual record then perhaps you could type up your own transcription of the actual record so we can all help you further.    I have many offline NSW resources and there's many other RChatters who can also look up their offline resources too.

   
Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Monday 08 July 13 01:03 BST (UK)

kathleen has been on some of her kids birth records.


Hi Leanne,

Are you referring to the actual record, or only to the database entry you have perhaps found online at a commercial website....   It is a NO NO at RChat to copy paste from those databases (reply # 15 or thereabouts).  If you have the actual record then perhaps you could type up your own transcription of the actual record so we can all help you further.    I have many offline NSW resources and there's many other RChatters who can also look up their offline resources too.

   
Cheers,  JM

On her marriage index at NSW BDM, can we copy and paste that info ?
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Monday 08 July 13 01:24 BST (UK)

kathleen has been on some of her kids birth records.


Oops sorry I meant her name is Kathleen on her marriage Index
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 08 July 13 06:53 BST (UK)
Karen Moore she died 28 Feb 2013

Tributes to this lady are online:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0v6t/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0v6s/
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 08 July 13 08:22 BST (UK)
Deaths & notices:

John Gordon FOLKES d. 7 JUN 2013, 81yrs late of Kiama Downs
Illawarra Mercury 11 JUN 2013
Sydney Morning Herald 12 JUN 2013   

http://tributes.smh.com.au/obituaries/smh-au/obituary.aspx?n=john-folkes&pid=165272512

Delma Joy FOLKES d. 22 FEB 1996, 61yrs late of Kiama Downs, formerly of Milperra   
Illawarra Mercury 24 FEB 1996   
Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 24 FEB 1996   

Marriage:
FOLKES John Gordon m. THOMAS Delma Joy 1955 SYDNEY #539
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 08 July 13 10:11 BST (UK)
Deaths & notices:

FOLKES John Francis d. 15 AUG 1987 82yrs,late of Culburra, formerly of Rockdale
Sydney Morning Herald   17 AUG 1987   

FOLKES Vivannah Mercia d. 9 OCT 1988 74yrs, late of Culburra, formerly of Rockdale   
Moruya Examiner   14 OCT 1988   
Sydney Morning Herald 12 OCT 1988   

They are buried together at SHOALHAVEN Lawn Cemetery:
Segment 1, ROW/SECTION C, no. 6  Interment 1 & 2
http://shoalhaven.public-cemeteries.net/index.php/help-a-information/search-registers

Marriage:
FOLKES John F m. PRESTON Vivannah M 1931 SYDNEY #11670
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 08 July 13 10:37 BST (UK)
If you refer to information above in reply #17 of Margaret Geraldine PRESTON nee LYNCH you will find that the FOLKES/LYNCH connection you were looking for is via the people I have posted the details about in my replies 21, 22 & 23.

1. Daughter of Margaret Geraldine PRESTON (nee LYNCH) is Vivannah Mercia FOLKES (nee PRESTON)
2. Son of Vivannah Mercia FOLKES (nee PRESTON) is John Gordon FOLKES
3. John Gordon FOLKES was the father-in-law of Karen Therese FOLKES (nee MOORE)
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Monday 08 July 13 10:50 BST (UK)
If you refer to information above in reply #17 of Margaret Geraldine PRESTON nee LYNCH you will find that the FOLKES/LYNCH connection you were looking for is via the people I have posted the details about in my replies 21, 22 & 23.

1. Daughter of Margaret Geraldine PRESTON (nee LYNCH) is Vivannah Mercia FOLKES (nee PRESTON)
2. Son of Vivannah Mercia FOLKES (nee PRESTON) is John Gordon FOLKES
3. John Gordon FOLKES was the father-in-law of Karen Therese FOLKES (nee MOORE)


Margaret Geraldine PRESTON (nee LYNCH) Is she the sister of Kathleen/Catherine and James Lynch ?
Sorry just going through all the info now and writing it all down
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Monday 08 July 13 11:04 BST (UK)
I decided to check the BDM

James and Catherine did have a sister named Margaret

Thank you so much for all your help :)
Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 08 July 13 11:16 BST (UK)
I decided to check the BDM
James and Catherine did have a sister named Margaret
Thank you so much for all your help :)

Have you actually read ALL the information that has been posted on this thread?
If you had you find the all details you keep asking about  ::)

I am looking for a connection between a living person and my family
My family has told me *living*  is the grandson of my ggrandmothers sister.
I have found some death info about *living's*  wife, her name was Karen Moore she died 28 Feb 2013


Title: Re: Folkes / Lynch family
Post by: Leanne. on Monday 08 July 13 11:19 BST (UK)
I decided to check the BDM
James and Catherine did have a sister named Margaret
Thank you so much for all your help :)

Have you actually read ALL the information that has been posted on this thread?
If you had you find the all details you keep asking about  ::)

Yeah sorry posted a bit too quickly, I hadn't actually gone through all the information but I have now :)