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Title: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Monday 08 July 13 21:46 BST (UK)
I have an Hispanic side to my family that I'm trying to unravel.  Lino Acevedo Ortiz  was born in Puerto Rico on Sept 24 1917.  He was married on Dec 7 1941 in Manhattan, NY to a (*)(B. April 1919,  Aguada, Puerto Rico).  He was drafted into the "A" army (black section of the army)  in 1939 or 40. His name on the draft was possibly Lino O. Acevedo.  He served in Europe with a family story that he died in France in 1946.  I have snippets of information on her family but for starters I want to concentrate on him.   
Thanks for providing this wonderful opportunity to explore families.    :D


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Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:10 BST (UK)
There is this record on ancestry, which if you don't have a sub can be accessed at some public libraries

U.S. National Cemetery Interment Control Forms, 1928-1962
Name - Lino O Acevedo
Died 8 Feb 1945
Cemetery - Long Island National Cemetery
Buried - 11 March 1949 at Farmingdale, New York

WW11 dead returned home from Follonica Italy

Date of birth 23 September 1916

There is a little bit of other info including service number, plot no etc.

The date of birth doesn't match with what you have and of course Lino O Acevedo may not be Lino Acevedo Ortis but this could be a match for the WW11 rcord you found.

The cemetery may be able to help with who ordered the plot and the return of his body which could tell you if this is your man.
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Monday 08 July 13 23:17 BST (UK)
Can you send me the service number please?  I believe other family members have that info and it may be a way of confirming this.

Thanks a million for your help in this   ;D
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Monday 08 July 13 23:22 BST (UK)
This all struck me as a little funny.  Here am I researching Connor & Duff in Westmeath, McKenzie in Dublin and Edinburgh and Clancy/Kane in Offaly.  Then out of the blue I write "I have an Hispanic side to my family that I'm trying to unravel".  Damn my relations are a weird and wonderful lot aren't they?  By the way, this Acevedo Ortiz is my wife's grandfather.   :P
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:23 BST (UK)
It has a large box with his name then down the rh side of this 3 smaller boxes with
State - Puerto Rico
Rank - Pfc
serial no 32087982

Then another box with
366 Inf 92 Div.  USAGF
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:26 BST (UK)
His headstone is on the findagrave website.
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:30 BST (UK)
Here's another reord but date of birth 1927

U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006
Lino O Acevedo
Service Information   PFC US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Born 8 Feb 1927
Died 8 Feb 1945
Service Start Date - 8 Feb 1944
Interred - 11 Mar 1949
at Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address - 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At - Section J Site 16583
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:36 BST (UK)
And this but this one says single which doesn't match with a marriage in 1940 which you have.
  Marriage is Dec 1941so is ok.
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Lino O Acevedo
Born 1916
Puerto Rican, citizen (Puerto Rican)
State of Residence - New York County New York
Enlisted 23 Apr 1941 at New York, New York City
Branch - Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code - Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade -Private
Grade Code - Private
Component - Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source - Civil Life
Education - Grammar school
Civil Occupation - Kitchen workers in hotels, restaurants, railroads, steamships, etc. n.e.c.
Marital Status - Single, without dependents
Height - 60 Weight - 117
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: crisane on Monday 08 July 13 23:44 BST (UK)
The Puerto Rican side add some colour to the mix eh but also means we have to step out of our comfort zone for researching them'

Here is this man's social security number

U.S. Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Lino Acevedo
SSN = 104-12-4553
Born - 23 Sep 1916
Died - Feb 1945
State (Year) SSN issued at New York (Before 1951)

There are 3 listed born around the same time so something towatch out for
Lino Acevedo   born 23 Sep 1916   died Feb 1945    (Your man)
Lino Acevedo   born 15 Dec 1917   died 27 Oct 1989   
Lino Acevedo   born 23 Sep 1917   died 7 Apr 2007   
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: shellyesq on Tuesday 09 July 13 00:03 BST (UK)
On www.fultonhistory.com, there is an article in the New York Age newspaper from 10 May 1941 that lists Lino O. Acevedo of New York City as being one of 300 "colored trainees" sent from Fort Dix to Fort Devons, Massachusetts for a year of training in the army. 

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Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Tuesday 09 July 13 00:21 BST (UK)
I would think that all these records refer to the same person.  The dates are a bit confused but are repeated in one form or another.  The family info I had was a bit off, I assume the family believed what they wanted to believe or tales were passed down. 
The last bit about (*) is interesting. Is there anyway we can find out about her?  I don't know what P.R. records are available, if any.  We need to find confirmation for what we have or have our info debunked.  What I know is her mother was Juana Caro Quiñones  from Rincón, P.R.   Her father was Eloy Alers Alers from Aguada, P.R. He was born in about 1885 and died aged 33 (1918) in P.R.  She is still alive but is very ill in hospital at the moment.
I am very grateful to you both for some wonderful info on this.  Thank you very much   :-*


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Title: Re: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Tuesday 09 July 13 00:34 BST (UK)
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This would probably be her mother Juana Caro vda. de Alers in 1940  [vda. de = widow of]:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KFNJ-NRD


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Title: Re: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Tuesday 09 July 13 01:03 BST (UK)
Here's the family in 1920:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X977-RZK

Juana is widowed and living with her mother-in-law, Antonia.   Her children are:  (*)

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Title: Re: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Tuesday 09 July 13 01:30 BST (UK)
Just a guess, but this may be Juana Caro Quiñónez in 1910 with a previous husband, Bautista Perdido Sanz.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VWK9-TQ6
Title: Re: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Tuesday 09 July 13 03:56 BST (UK)
This is probably Lino in 1920.  It isn't clear how he is related to the Fuentes Ramos family, if at all.  Presumably Thomas Acebedo Y Guzmán is Lino´s widowed father and Josefa and Alicia are his sisters.  They are all described as guests.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9WV-HHV


Tomás Acevedo Guzmán in 1910 with his wife Eugenia Ortiz, two daughters and a sister-in-law, Rosa Nogueras.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VWK8-6WL
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Wednesday 10 July 13 10:57 BST (UK)
First of all thank you all for this research.  It is wonderful. 
I have contacted family members and they have confirmed from snippets of memory the info given.
As for Erato's comment, I can confirm Thomas Acebedo Y Guzmán is Lino's father and he is not related to the Fuentes Ramos family.  However the Juana Caro Y Quiñonez De Perdido  mentioned in the 1910 census does not appear to be the correct family. 
One thing confuses me.  In the last post Erato said that Rosa Nogueras was a sister-in-law of  Tomás Acevedo Guzman.  How do we know this?  This name is not familiar to us.  It would be interesting to see where she came from.
Again many thanks for your help in this.   ;D
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 10 July 13 13:13 BST (UK)
She is listed as a sister-in-law.

Name:    Rosa Nogueras
Relationship to Head of Household:    Cuñada [= s-in-law]
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 10 July 13 13:43 BST (UK)
Puerto Rico was enumerated in the US census from 1910 on and these enumerations can be seen at FamilySearch.  Before 1910, Puerto Rico was not included.  It seems there was a separate Puerto Rico census in 1899, and some earlier ones, but I couldn't find them transcribed on-line; they can be ordered on microfilm.  I didn't look very hard so it might be possible to find more census records - Eloy Alers, for example.

FamilySearch also has a few church BMD records for Puerto Rico, but they are too early to easily link up to the known people in the Acevedo and Caro families.

https://familysearch.org/
Title: Re: Lino Acevedo Ortiz New York
Post by: benchurian on Wednesday 10 July 13 16:18 BST (UK)
Thank you Erato.