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Title: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: Balwyn on Tuesday 09 July 13 04:45 BST (UK)

Request from Australia. Trying to find baptismal details for Ernest CARTER b.1829 son of Henry CARTER a surgeon/dentist & Priscilla (nee CLART). I found Henry CARTER's name listed in Pigot's 1830 Directory (on-line) with reference to page 688. I would be most appreciative for any further information found on that page.

Balwyn 🐝
Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 10 July 13 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi

The HENRY CARTER found on page 688 of the 1830's pigot's directory is a jeweller/ silversmith working from 4 St James Parade, BATH.

Can't find a baptism for Ernest either, or any of his siblings.

claire

Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: Balwyn on Wednesday 10 July 13 00:31 BST (UK)

Thank you for the lookup Claire. The plot for the CARTER family thickens!

Balwyn. 🐝
Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: Balwyn on Wednesday 10 July 13 01:02 BST (UK)

I'm now wondering if Henry CARTER was indeed a jeweller/silversmith before he called himself a dentist (1841/1851 London Census). Apparently there were no exams until the 1850s and even then not compulsory. Sons, Ernest & Henry jnr both migrated to Oz and practised as successful Dentists here. Would be good to locate Ernest CARTERs baptismal record sometimes quoted as birth in Bath & sometimes Cheltenham. The date should be 1829. The subsequent children to Ernest all appear to be born in Cheltenham (though no b. details found yet). Is it possible to track down the dates Henry CARTER was working in Bath as a jeweller through the directories?

Balwyn 🐝
Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: jusnoneed on Wednesday 10 July 13 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi, did Ernest marry  Harriet?
If you google his name there's a site with Ernest being born in 1829 Cheltenham, son of Henry a London dentist.
Married Harriet and they went  to Aus in 1852. They had 14 children.
Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: Balwyn on Wednesday 10 July 13 23:38 BST (UK)

That's the very property we are researching. HOWEVER there are various documents which state either BATH or CHELTENHAM as ERNEST's birth place. We would like to be accurate and establish exactly where he was either born and/or baptised! The family may well have moved between the two locations & therefore he may have been born in BATH & baptised in CHELTENHAM. ERNEST & HARRIET were not active in the embryonic C of E near where they built and are buried in the Independant Section of the cemetery. However, all the babies who died are buried in the CE section and surviving children all married in the CE (all denominations have equal standing). Despite having 14 children, there were many early deaths and other tragedies through the generations, which is why we have not been successful finding early details or photos and are now trying to trace lateral family in the UK.

Balwyn 🐝
Title: Re: Somerset 1830 Pigot's Directory Lookup Please
Post by: CHERAN on Friday 29 May 20 00:10 BST (UK)
Hi

I have been trying to trace this family but just quick questions

I have Ernest son of Henry Carter and Priscilla Ann Clart

I have Ernest  (Dentist) marriage Certificate 1851 to Harriet Elizabeth Gilks with his father Henry Carter "Dentist" in the Parish Church of West Hackney....

So is this the Ernest who comes to Aus?   I also have a death date of September 1889 St Giles London???

update:
****found the obituary for Ernest in Australia
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article197505970
and his will which seems to confirm the Aus connection
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page17642613


I have Ernest brothers as

Dr Albert Carter    born Circ 1832   died South Africa 1891
 Henry     "           born  1839   reference from GRO index

   CARTER, HENRY         Mother's maiden name: CLART 
1839  M Quarter in THE CHELTENHAM UNION  Volume 11  Page 202

Death record in Victoria looks correct for although its Priscilla Anna Clark his mother but then there is a Henry Carter a widower born Cheltenham cir 1839

Felix Carter   born 1843 with reference back to GRO

CARTER, FELIX       Mother's Maiden: CLART 
1843  S Quarter in STRAND UNION  Volume 01  Page 368

Henry Senior and Priscilla Clart have a daughter Rosa born about 1837 but haven't found a birth or baptism yet   possible burial: 

burial register summary
last name Carter
first names  Rosa
burial date  05 July 1880
location   Camden


I am tracing back to Felix   so I am bit worried I am incorrect with the Brothers who are maybe in Victoria although I know Felix son Felix Charles Percival Carter comes to Aus in 1882

Cheran