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Title: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: TheBanana on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:02 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the parents of my great-grandparents -

William Kemble (middle name may be Francis) he was born about 1900-1918 supposedely in Cardiff, but I am unsure.
Susan May McCarthy was born in 1915 in Cardiff.

They had quite a few children, one being my grandfather Francis Kemble who was born in 1948...
I am having trouble tracing the ancestors of William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy...

MUCH HELP PLEASE!!
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:26 BST (UK)
Hi have you discounted the William Kemble Dec qtr 1910 Cardiff 11a 352?

Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:28 BST (UK)
There are 3 William Kemble birth registrations in Cardiff in that time frame!
1908, 1909 and 1910.

You really need the marriage certificate, which will give his father's name.
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:32 BST (UK)
Births, September qtr 1914
Cardiff district    vol 11a, page 794

McCarthy, Susan M     Mother's maiden name: Lovell


Marriages, June qtr 1912
Cardiff district    vo11a, page 694

McCarthy, James P
Lovell, Susan


All from FreeBMD! ;D
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:34 BST (UK)
 ;D Hi KG one death William Kemble aged 0 March 1909 Cardiff

Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 10 July 13 18:54 BST (UK)
So there is!
Still 2 to choose from, though! ;D
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: TheBanana on Tuesday 13 August 13 20:53 BST (UK)
Sorry for the late response. I found out that Susan May McCarthy's parents are named JAMES P MCCARTHY and SUSAN LOVELL. The parents of William Kemble are named MARGARET LYONS AND JAMES KEMBLE. But would appreciate assistance on there ancestors and information if so..
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 13 August 13 23:40 BST (UK)
Hi again the marriage of James Kemble to Margaret Lyons was:-

James Kemble to (on same page) Margaret Lyons March qtr 1898 Cardiff 11a 379

And 1901 Census:-

James Kemble 27 occ Fish Hawker
Margaret 21
Mary C 2
Margaret M 10 months
All born Cardiff
Residing at 42, Helen Street, Roath, Cardiff
Census Ref RG13/4975/90/46
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: TheBanana on Wednesday 14 August 13 06:57 BST (UK)
OK. Much thanks for the help.
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 14 August 13 08:16 BST (UK)
On the 1911 census, there are 47 James McCarthy in Glamorgan.
Of those, 22 are in Cardiff.
Discounting those under 16 and over 40 still leaves 12! :o

So you are going to need to find out his father's name - and that will be on the marriage certificate. ;D

If you have access to the 1911 census (it's free on Ancestry at the moment) you could go through every James McCarthy to dismiss those who are married?
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 14 August 13 08:26 BST (UK)
Susan Lovell is easier to find! ;D

1901 census: Class:  RG13; Piece:  4986; Folio:  16; Page:  24
27 Harvey Street, Canton, Cardiff

Lovell, Henry  Head  M  39  Knife Grinder  b Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Lovell, Ellen  Wife  F  33 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Lovell, Joshua  Son  M  13  b Cardiff
Lovell, Susanah  Daughter  F  10  b Cardiff
Lovell, Lemontina  Daughter  F  8  b Cardiff
Lovell, William  Son  M  5  b Cardiff
Lovell, Henry  Son  M  4  b Cardiff


Susanah is known as Susan in other censuses.

There is a birth registration, September qtr 1892, of Lementina Lovell!
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: TheBanana on Friday 16 August 13 09:30 BST (UK)
Thanks for this information.
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 16 August 13 09:37 BST (UK)
Do you need info from the other censuses?
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: TheBanana on Friday 16 August 13 17:58 BST (UK)
I have looked at the 1911 census, if you have any censuses pre-1901 then that would be great, thanks!
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 17 August 13 07:04 BST (UK)
Lovell family in 1891:
Class:  RG12; Piece:  4399; Folio:  130; Page:  45
30 Daisy Street, Canton, Cardiff

Lovell, Harry  Head  M  35  Carter  b Cardiff
Lovell, Helen  Wife  F  25  b Cheltenham
Lovell, Vincas(?)  Daughter  F  5  b Bridgend
Lovell, John  Son  M  3  b Cardiff
Lovell, Susan  Daughter  F  5 months  b Cardiff

The eldest daughter's name is unreadable!
See what you can make of it?
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: Deirdre784 on Saturday 17 August 13 15:52 BST (UK)
The eldest daughter's name is unreadable!
See what you can make of it?

FreeBMD has a Carnation Lovell born in Bridgend in MarQ 1886 - the transcription doesn't look anything like Carnation though ....
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 17 August 13 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi all, just in case it is Carnation, a CONATION Lovell aged 15 b Cardiff is a House Servant with a Burgess family at 5, Rolls Street, Canton, Cardiff
Census ref RG13/4984/174/58
Keyboard86
Title: Re: William Kemble and Susan May McCarthy - Lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 17 August 13 17:37 BST (UK)
Hi again, not good at this cut & paste on mobile, but their is another earler thread " Lovell family" with masses of info originated by welshspencer.
Keyboard86