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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: achooo on Wednesday 17 July 13 10:08 BST (UK)
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i have burial certificate.isued from st Andrews middlesex dated 1854.where would she be burried iv tried ilford and london metropolitan archive some one said grays end cemetery,who do i contact please would love to know where she was burried
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From having a look, this is what I found which may help you to work out possible places
"St Andrew Holborn Above the Bars with St George the Martyr an ancient parish included most of the Holborn area to the west, bordering onto St Giles in the Fields, it included both Lincoln's Inn and Gray's Inn which rented pews in the church of St Andrew, Holborn. Thavie's original property, which was left for his endowment of the church, Thavie's Inn became a lawyers inn and may have been the original home of Lincoln's Inn before it relocated to its present site. Lincoln's sold Thavies Inn for redevelopment in 1785."
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some one at london metropolitan archives said try grays inn road cemetary how can i contact them iv been looking but nothing about their records
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http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/HolbornStAndrew/churches.htm
http://www.camden.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure/local-history/collections/monumental-inscriptions-and-other-transcripts.en;jsessionid=4D9CB0E486672684FC51EDDDA652F796.node2
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Have you tried deceased.com? I found out where several of my relatives were buried through this. It's free to search. You only need to buy credits if you want grave details or a map of where the grave is etc
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looked as you told me it a selling program holidays/clothes
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Hi. Which one of us were you replying to?
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Sorry. Deceased online I think
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Hi ... the link is www.deceasedonline.com
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Hi achooo
Did you get any further with this request?
From the mid 1850's very few burials took place in parish churchyards as they were full to overflowing.
You would need to check the local cemeteries for the burial.
If you need anymore help, post the name of the person whose burial you are trying to find and their actual date of death.
Dawn
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thankyou.
St Andrews and Holborn middlesex.register no 2319.page 10.Rebecca barr .abode machi place.age 36. 3 september 1854 burial record slip. but where ?
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Hi achooo
I had a look at the church's website, the LMA catalogue and the parish registers.
http://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/P82_AND.PDF
It would seem that the churchyard was finally closed in December 1855. It's also possible that approx. 25,000 were buried between 1813 and 1855.
Then, due to the construction of the Holborn Viaduct, the remains of those buried in the northern section of the churchyard where the viaduct was constructed were removed to the City of London cemetery in Ilford.
http://www.standrewholborn.org.uk/index.php?page=teulon
The LMA catalogue also makes reference to a burial ground in Grays Inn Road. This appears to have been annexed to Holy Trinity, which has separate burial registers. It is possible that if your ancestor was poor and died in Holborn's workhouse, they may have been buried in Grays Inn Road, but those entries usually appear in the Holy Trinity register.
Unfortunately what I couldn't see in the catalogue was a burial day book where fees paid and locations were noted.
With the passage of time, the lack of surviving records and the extreme development and redevelopment of the area I think you are unlikely to establish exactly where the burial was. If the grave you seek was of someone of extreme wealth and standing in society, then a burial in the crypt would have been a possibility. Those that could afford to, also paid for their loved ones to be buried nearer the church. Graves next to the church commanded a higher price.
If you look at the church on google maps satellite view, you will see that very little of the churchyard remains today.
I have several relatives who were buried in St Marylebone churchyard from 1820-1850. The location of their remains falls into the same scenario. I assume they may have been moved to Brookwood cemetery when that churchyard was redeveloped but they could still be there. Knowing that the family had little in the way of capital means that no headstone exists and the funerals would have been extremely basic in their nature. It is highly unlikely their coffins had name plates which could have been used for identification purposes.
Dawn
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thankyou for your help,they were poor,did you find a date she died please
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Without the advances of refrigeration and embalming she would have died upto or about 3 days before her burial.
You could spend £9.25 and buy her death cert from the General Register Office at Southport (www.gro.gov.uk) which will tell the actual date, place and cause of death.
Sep 1854
BARR, Rebecca, district W London, vol 1c page 50
Dawn