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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: danni0107 on Monday 22 July 13 16:53 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace my family tree - great great grandfather was George Ayres born around 1833 or 1834 in towcester/northants area - he worked on the land as an ag lab or 'waggoner of horses'? I understand that he married an Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Liverpool or Ireland
My great grandfather was also George Ayres born in 1869 and he moved to Yorkshire and Married a Minnie Smith who was born in Aspley Guise around 1867
Does anyone have any further information which may help me - thanks
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I am trying to trace my family tree and need some help - my great great grandfather was born around 1833/34 in towcester/northants area and married Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Livepool or Ireland
My great grandfather also George Ayres was born around 1869 and married Minnie Smith - born around 1867 in apsley guise - they eventually moved to South Yorkshire
Does anyone have any further information which may help me move forward ??
thanks
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Hi
Where was George jnr born and when and where did he marry Minnie?
Have you found a marriage between George snr and Ann Collins?
Have you found them on any census as that should give Ann's birthyear and birthplace
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I am trying to trace my family tree - great great grandfather was George Ayres born around 1833 or 1834 in towcester/northants area - he worked on the land as an ag lab or 'waggoner of horses'? I understand that he married an Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Liverpool or Ireland
My great grandfather was also George Ayres born in 1869 and he moved to Yorkshire and Married a Minnie Smith who was born in Aspley Guise around 1867
Does anyone have any further information which may help me - thanks
This has been raised as a new post so please post any replies on the following thread to avoid any duplication of info
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,654677.msg5008858.html#msg5008858
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Hi all, this is the 1871:-
George Ayers 38
Ann 36 b Liverpool
Thomas 14
John Collins 7
Mary Collins 6
Elizabeth Collins 4
William Collins 1
George Collins 3 Visitor
Residing at High Street, Part of Potcote, Cold Higham, Towcester
Census Ref RG10/1472/8/8
Keyboard86
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So if George Collins was a visitor and George Ayres was born 1869 - where is George Ayres in 1871 as he is not with his alleged parents?
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1871 shows George b Cold Higham Northants
Thomas = Potcote
John, Mary & Elizabeth = Pattishall
William = Potcote
George = Pattishall
George is shown as Ayers - not Collins - but is shown as a visitor
Are you sure that he is George & Ann's son? What fathers name is given on his marriage cert to Minnie?
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Difficult to know whether the children are surname Collins or Ayers. Thomas is shown as Thomas Collins and the enumerator has then dittoed Ayers from Ann's surname so it looks like Thomas Collins Ayers. All others are similarly dittoed
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Married as Ayers - not Ayres
Marriages March qtr 1861
George Ayers Towcester 3b 21
Ann Collins Towcester 3b 21
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Per freebmd
Births December qtr 1867
George Ayers Towcester 3b 20
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The 1881 has a George Ayers aged 12 b Patishall - parents Thomas & Mary A
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Hi Carole, apologies re mix up re Collins/Ayers 1871, the family next door with Head John Coates, wife Harriet and a James Pallett 6 and Caroline Ayers 3 both shown as visitors
Keyboard86
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Hi again, 1861 census for George/Ann
George Ayres 29 occ Carter b Fosters Booth, N/Hants
Ann 23 b Scotland?
Esther 6 b Potcote
Thomas 4 b Potcote
Residing at Eastcote, Pattishall, N/Hants
Census Ref RG09/925/32/10
Earlier marriage for George:-
George Ayres 21 Lucy Hawkins 22 19th October 1852 Cold-Higham, N/Hants
Grooms father Charles Ayres
Brides father Benjamin Hawkins
Possible death of Lucy:-
Lucy Ayres June qtr 1860 Towcester 3b 14
Keyboard86
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Hi again, is this your family in 1901?
William Ayres 31 occ Foreman Coke Ovens b Cold Higham
Minnie 33 b Appleby Guise?
Florence Hessie Smith 12 b Appleby Guise
Winifred Elsie Smith 8 b b Appleby Guise
Charles Wm Stuart Ayres 5 b Hunslet,Yorks
Rosalind Gladys Ayres 1 b High Green, Yorks
Residing at New Street, Ecclesfield, High Green, Yorks
Census Ref RG13/4334/106/19
Keyboard86
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HI all
Thank you for the information regarding my great great grandfather re: Ayres/Collins
Looks like my family as it may fit my great grandfather who on 1901 census was aged 31 this would make his birth year at 1870 (i have 1869) and yes my great grandfather was married to minnie born aspley guise - funny though as also on here is Rosalind Gladys Ayres aged 1 born in High Green Yorks - and my grandfather - son of Grandfather went on to marry lady called Gladys who then became Gladys Ayres my grandma
I am trying to trace my Great Great Great Grandfather who would have been George's father (b)
Any information would be greately received - curious
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Ayres/Collins
Forgot to add that in my family name - George may have been William/George William or Bill ? Have all sorts of variations - curious
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Ayres/Collins
Forgot to add that in my family name - George may have been William/George William or Bill ? Have all sorts of variations - curious
Can you give marriage details of Minnie to George/William?
Keyboard86
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Hi wish I could - only details are that George/William Ayres married Minnie Smith born in Aspley Guise - they may have married in Northants area and then moved to Yorkshire - I believe Minnie may have been a shirt maker ?? and her parents were Charles and Elizabeth Smith - sorry do not have any more information - curious
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Hi wish I could - only details are that George/William Ayres married Minnie Smith born in Aspley Guise - they may have married in Northants area and then moved to Yorkshire - I believe Minnie may have been a shirt maker ?? and her parents were Charles and Elizabeth Smith - sorry do not have any more information - curious
So how do you know George's father was a George, see CaroleW reply on page 1?
Keyboard86
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only details are that George/William Ayres married Minnie Smith born in Aspley Guise
Have you looked for their marriage on freebmd? www.freebmd.org.uk
Unless it can be confirmed from a marriage cert that "George/William's" father is George - all the info posted so far may be incorrect.
As you can see from the 1871 entry - there is a William aged 1 but no George shown as a son.
From the 1901 details posted - Minnie is married to a William - not a George
I would suggest you search freebmd for a Minnie Smith marriage to a George/William Ayres/Ayers and obtain a copy of the marriage cert before researching further
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May not be the correct Ayres/Smith family but Tony DIXON's new book "But for Further Evidence - a continuing history of William AYRES, Gypsy 1806-1872" may be useful reading as the introduction says that it "attempts to document William's father, also William, and his extended family and further connections with, notably, the SMITH and HEARN travelling families of the South Midlands".
The book also contains a black and white photo-journal of the building of a beautiful bow top living waggon.
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hello, are you still interested in william ayres and minnie smith, they were my great grand parents and i managed to get some photos of them from my uncle . william moved from northamptonshire to yorkshire as you know , he worked as a forman in the coaking ovens at pilley pit near barnsley , thats the village i grew up in . i moved to nothamptonshire around 1974 and it was only about 15 years ago that I found out my roots came from this county it was as if I had come full circle and i am also interested in finding the roots of ann collins williams mother she was born in liverpool in 1835
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i am ayres by marriage and my husbands family were from hazeley heath nr eversley my husbands greatgrandad had a brother henry ayres who married a millicent pike,henrys mother and father were henry and martha ayres nee peters,the tree for the ayres family just goes on and on,but i will check for george
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i am ayres by marriage and my husbands family were from hazeley heath nr eversley my husbands greatgrandad had a brother henry ayres who married a millicent pike,henrys mother and father were henry and martha ayres nee peters,the tree for the ayres family just goes on and on,but i will check for george
Only just seen this, Henry and Martha were my Great Grandparents my Grandfather was Nipton.
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Welcome to RootsChat lone wolf, C4C was online only yesterday, hopefully they will reply to your post very soon.
Sarah :)
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Hi there,
My 4th Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Ayres (Eyres, Hares) born about 1790 possibly in Birmingham (as listed by her husband Joseph Porter on her burial) but we have no other information - nothing can be found anywhere. My Aunt who had originally done the family tree but has since passed away had both Irish and Gypsy written next to her name with question marks. She had been in contact with other relatives in the UK. So that is all I have to go on. Their children (Porters) were named Joseph, William Eyre, Mary, Hannah, Thomas, Sarah Bertha, Ann, Henry and Eliza.
I also have a rogue Lucy Smith born abt 1790 who married Samuel Poultney in Leek, Staffordshire. She doesn't appear to fit in any of the other local Smith families.
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I am also related to Ayres/Stanley/Pike/Gregory/James/ Rose families,
James Ayres m Barbara Stanley, son George Ayres m Rosanna Pike, son Cornelius Ayres m Kezia James, son Neptune m Athaliah Gregory, son Naylor m Urania Gregory, son Naylor m May/ Rosie/Rosanna Rose, daughter Lilian m Anthony Coules, who had 7 children in flushing me.. Caroline Coules ( now known as Cassie H ayes).