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Title: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 03:28 BST (UK)
I have found a marriage for Elizabeth Matthews to James Sanders on 28 Nov 1868 at Cusop Herefordshire (or Hertfordshire) England. how do I find if her parents were John and Mary Matthews  Thanks Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: karenlee on Friday 02 August 13 03:52 BST (UK)

Hi Lynne

The entry on the England and Wales Marriages Index shows


Cusop Herefordshire England
28th Nov 1868
James SANDERS 23 Father = James SANDERS
Elizabeth MATTHEWS 22 Father = John MATTHEWS

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 04:27 BST (UK)
Thank you Karenlea I also posted in Hertfordshire. Also I found a death for an Elizabeth Sanders in 1889 age 44  in a workhouse would that be because she had a disease that she had to be isolated. Thanks Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: karenlee on Friday 02 August 13 04:35 BST (UK)

Hi again Lynne

Generally people were admitted to the Workhouse if they were too poor or too ill to care for themselves and their families.  If this is in fact your Elizabeth in the Workhouse, it might be that her husband has died or deserted her and she is without an income and therefore unable to care for herself and any children they may have had together.  Or she might have become ill and have no family with the means to care for her.  I am assuming that you have already tried to trace both James and Elizabeth in Census after their marriage??

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 04:48 BST (UK)
Thank you Karenlee I have tried to trace both Elizabeth and James after their marriage but not knowing much about towns etc in England or Scotland I have been unable to find anything, apart from a possible child named Alice kate born in 1869 and maybe a James born in1874 or an Arthur William who died here in Australia.in 1957. Census  has so many names the same I get lost. Thanks Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 13 05:06 BST (UK)
In 1871 they appear to be living just over the border in Hay on Wye in Wales.  James was a miller and there are no children

James Saunders 26 born Eardisley Herefordshire
Elizabeth Saunders 24 born Clifford Herefordshire

RG10 Piece 5593 Folio 101 Page 13

Kay
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 13 05:26 BST (UK)
If it is the same couple it looks as though Elizabeth died age 26 in March qtr 1873 in Hay and in 1874 James married an Esther Williams in Hay in June qtr. 

In 1881 the couple are living in Hay with daughter Sarah age 4

Kay
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 05:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Kay for all that information, Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 06:15 BST (UK)
Hello again Kay could you tell me how I can get hold of her death certificate so as I can see what she died of. Thanks Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 August 13 06:23 BST (UK)
The info is from FreeBMD and they list

Elizabeth Saunders death in March qtr 1873 Registration District Hay Volume 11b Page 115

Using these ref numbers you can get the death cert from the General Register Office http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

It costs £9. 25

Good Luck Kay

Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: matthews1867 on Friday 02 August 13 06:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Kay very much appreciated. Bye Lynne
Title: Re: elizabeth matthews
Post by: [Ray] on Friday 02 August 13 09:12 BST (UK)
Hi

[ OCD kicking in ]

Note the spelling, from FREEBMD.
The index page does say Elizebeth ( typo or not )

Marriage Dec 1868 Hay 11b 279
James SANDERS / Elizebeth MATTHEWS


Ray