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Title: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Monday 13 June 05 21:43 BST (UK)
One of the interesting problems is variations in the names by choice or error.

Several examples that I have found :

ZELLEY - Zelly, Zealy, Zealey, Sealy
Sealey, Selly and Selley and more
VALENCE - Vallens, Valance and Vallence
MABBE + Mabb
FLISHER - Flesher & Fisher
Title: Re: Name Variations Poll
Post by: Zelley on Friday 17 June 05 20:04 BST (UK)
Persons answering the poll are welcome to provide a few examples such as Randall, Randell, Rendle
or Godbold, Godbolt or even Wood and Woods,
Kyne or Kine etc.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Kevwood on Friday 17 June 05 20:11 BST (UK)
I have sollars to sollards, baldwin to baldwing, clark to clarke  but the worst is Serjent to sargent to sarjent to seargent !!!


Kev.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 17 June 05 23:04 BST (UK)
I have Jones to Jones to Jones to Jones.................... ;D ;D ;D


Jan
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Friday 17 June 05 23:13 BST (UK)
I have Jones to Jones to Jones to Jones.................... ;D ;D ;D
Jan

What about SMITH or LEE :o
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Lloydy on Saturday 18 June 05 12:37 BST (UK)
Joking aside now!!!!......

I have Beaton/Beeton/Beetton/Betton

Challinor/Challenor/Challiner

Trow/Trowe

Simon/Simons


Jan
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: ysabeau on Saturday 18 June 05 12:47 BST (UK)
      I have found Laing/Lang/ Lange/Layng, not counting Sang

                      and as for the Robbs and Dunns - well !!!!!!

                                           Ysabeau

                        PS And what about Christian names
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: JAP on Sunday 19 June 05 07:54 BST (UK)
Until I started thinking about this, I didn't realize just how many variations there were!  These are all names of my children's ancestors and all variants come from official records - either church registers or statutory records.

Lochtie, Lochty, Loughty

Philp, Philip, Philips, Phillip, Phillips

Trippet, Trippett, Trippit, Trippitt

Pearcy, Peircy, Peircey, Piercy, Piercey, Percey, Percy

Bourke, Burke, Burk

Stanton, Staunton

Brownell, Brownill, Brownhill

Cuming, Cumming, Cumin, Cumyn

Dooley, Duly

Kinsella, Kinchella, Kinchilla, Kinnale, Kinsals

Siddle, Siddal, Siddall, Sydall

And the one which takes absolute pride of place:
McLause, McLaws, McIlhose, McLehose - a total of some 80 variant spellings!  If you can think of a way to spell it, it has been used!

JAP
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Sunday 19 June 05 08:51 BST (UK)
Wow!  Excellent contribution.  May you manage you rake up all the scattered leaves of your family trees regardless of
the many shades? :D
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: ysabeau on Sunday 19 June 05 10:11 BST (UK)
Lloydy

I have Jones to Jones to Jones to Jones.................... ;D ;D ;D
Jan

Unlike Smith, are there any variants for the surname Jones ?

Ysabeau
Title: JONES - Janes, Jeans, Johns & Jonas
Post by: Zelley on Monday 20 June 05 04:00 BST (UK)
Lloydy
I have Jones to Jones to Jones to Jones.................... ;D ;D ;D
Jan
Unlike Smith, are there any variants for the surname Jones ?
Ysabeau

Try, Janes, Jeans, Johns and Jonas for Jones.
and a real stretch is JAMES.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Darcy on Monday 20 June 05 06:41 BST (UK)
I have

Shepherd, Sheppherd, Sheperd, Shepperd, Shephard, Shepard, Shepphard, Shepheard.

Maddock, Madock Maddox, Maddix and believe it or not, in one instance, Macdick!

Strickland, Stricklin

Read, Reade, Reed, Reede

Crowter, Crouter, Clouter, Clowter

Darcy


Title: A real hot topic
Post by: Zelley on Monday 20 June 05 08:14 BST (UK)
What have we started?  Even SMITH has variations such as SMYTHE.   But we all have a few SMITH names in our various trees.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: claudia99 on Monday 20 June 05 09:32 BST (UK)
Up to now I have no Smiths or Jones!
However, I do have
Fagan, Fegan, Fagin, Feagin, Feagan, Hagan, Sagan
Daly, Daley
Dickens, Dickins
Speakman, Spearman
Holliday, Holiday, Halliday, Haliday
Fildes, Files

Just a thought, on a database, how is it best to record these names - any thoughts?
I have recorded them as their BIRTH was registered - does anyone have any views on this?
Claudia
Title: Re: JONES - Janes, Jeans, Johns & Jonas
Post by: ysabeau on Monday 20 June 05 09:46 BST (UK)
Lloydy
I have Jones to Jones to Jones to Jones.................... ;D ;D ;D
Jan
Unlike Smith, are there any variants for the surname Jones ?
Ysabeau

Try, Janes, Jeans, Johns and Jonas for Jones.
and a real stretch is JAMES.

                        I stand corrected

Ysabeau
Title: Full Disclosure of name variations
Post by: Zelley on Monday 20 June 05 10:18 BST (UK)
Up to now I have no Smiths or Jones!
Claudia

No SMITH or JONES, well I'll be darned.

Concerning the recording of names, you should go by the actual birth record not a transcribed record that could be wrong.
But, if a name has variations, I would also disclose them.

For instance some branches of my Zealy/Zelley Dorset bunch changed the name to SEALEY in the early to mid-1840's.  One hundred and forty years later, some descendants of that branch
weren't aware of the Zelley connection.  How sad,  they had
distant cousins in the Weymouth region, but weren't aware of the connections until 1990.  So full disclosure will help somebody 100 plus years from now when we are long gone.
All we can do is try to be a storyteller with an open book
and the best disclosure that time will allow!

Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: sandie on Tuesday 21 June 05 17:22 BST (UK)
So far I have:

Collier, Collyer
Welch, Welsh
Davies, Davis
but my favourite is my mum's line - Dinmore, Dinsmore, Dunmore, Dunsmore, Denmore and Diamond.

Think how boring our research would be though if everyone wrote/transcribed the names the same way every time!!

Sandie
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Tuesday 21 June 05 23:26 BST (UK)
Think how boring our research would be though if everyone wrote/transcribed the names the same way every time!!
Sandie

Excellent point!!
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: smeghead on Wednesday 22 June 05 00:00 BST (UK)
I have Jeves,jeeves,jeaves,geves,geaves and have found relatives where the misspelling has stuck Jeves is the version i am looking for but many other names in my tree have variations or misspelling part of the fun of genealogy

                                               Jim
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: PassionPlay on Wednesday 22 June 05 09:33 BST (UK)
My nightmare name is SOUTHERN, so far:

Southern, Southen, Souther, Southan, Southam, Souton, Sowten, Sowtan

I dare say there are more to find yet  ;D

Steph.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Siouxzie on Wednesday 22 June 05 09:39 BST (UK)
So far only with my Newells, who are also Newel or Newall or Newhall.

But Great Grandad Johnson pulled a fast one on his wedding certificate, Calling himself and his father - Johnston, but then they lied about brides age, her father's name and occupation too.  An elopment so the family think.
Title: Randall
Post by: Zelley on Wednesday 22 June 05 19:41 BST (UK)
What about Randall, Randell & Rendle
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: corbie on Wednesday 22 June 05 20:59 BST (UK)
 Hi All,
    I Have;   For the name Hyatt,
               Hyaitte, Hyett,Hyette,Hiatt,Hiett, Hiaght, Height, Hyit,Heyitt,Hiyite, Myatt, Wyatt, even Byatt! Then go 'searching' and all we get is HOTELS Worldwide! Adds hours on to the research!
           Sue
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: PassionPlay on Wednesday 22 June 05 21:38 BST (UK)
Sue, you can cut out words in most search engines by inserting a 'minus' for example

Hyatt -hotel

Or look for an Advanced Search as it usually gives you an option to specify words you don't want.

Might narrow if down a little  :D

Hope this helps - always frightened I may be sucking eggs with this kind of thing  ;D

Steph.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: corbie on Wednesday 22 June 05 22:06 BST (UK)
 Hi Steph,
     Thanks for the advice, I'll try it that way in future.
                           Sue
Title: Google - Hyatt Family 1881
Post by: Zelley on Thursday 23 June 05 02:59 BST (UK)
First hit was: Henry Edkins - Mary HYATT (Feb. 17, 1757)
Others: Benjamin Garner Hyatt, veteran WW II, then the name Julia HYATT (1855 - 1918) popped-up.

Be creative, try a real name & date
e.g. James Hyatt, 1850 and what do you get
 - James Franklin Hyatt, born 1874
in Franklin, Arkansas

Then I tried Zelley, Hyatt
and received a grab bag of interesting results

Using WYATT, I go a lot on Stanley Zelley WYATT, but on a Wraxall, Somerset site there was a 1816 marriage of one George Wyatt to Harriet DOGGETT.
And for those that care about the DOGGETT name, also in 1816
Sophia DOGGETT married one Mark MAY
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: corbie on Thursday 23 June 05 04:30 BST (UK)
Hi Zelley,
        Thanks for your look ups. As it happens I do have a lot of the Hyatt's going back to c1795. I'm always looking for more tho'
       They are all from the Middlesex London area, with some going to the USA/Aus/Tasmania.
      This has been a 40yr project for me and thanks to this site I've traced more in the last few months than I could have ever have  imagined.
     That is on all my name searches. It's agreat place to be.
                     Thanks again,
                            Sue
Title: Wyatt vs Hyatt
Post by: Zelley on Thursday 23 June 05 05:34 BST (UK)
Sue
Re your Wyatt variations from Hyatt, were you able to trace any to London
or Dorset, England.
Title: GIDNEY vs GADNEY
Post by: Zelley on Thursday 23 June 05 06:02 BST (UK)
Except for the odd Gidney name in Devon, I'm not chasing the detailed history of this name, but a likely variation is GIDNEY and GADNEY.
Title: Re: Wyatt vs Hyatt
Post by: corbie on Sunday 26 June 05 16:56 BST (UK)
[quote author=Zelley Hi Zelly,
I'm afraid I haven't  traced any to Dorset. The variations are mostly transcriber errors.
         Sue
             link=topic=65636.msg278099#msg2780date=1119501298]
Sue
Re your Wyatt variations from Hyatt, were you able to trace any to London
or Dorset, England.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: AngelaR on Monday 01 August 05 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi all

To add to the Zealy variations - most of my line were down as Sealy or Sealey, although the early ones in Wiltshire were Zealy. Since they were all illiterate, it was up to the priest or registrar to spell it. One vicar tended to use Seely or Seeley. Because the family straddled 2 registration districts it was noticable that the Pewsey registrar always spelled it Sealey whereas the Devizes chap used Sealy for the same person.

Zelley - on this name, have you found any ancestors who wandered over the Dorset into Wiltshire?

Angela
Title: ZELY, ZEALY to ZELLEY
Post by: Zelley on Monday 01 August 05 10:43 BST (UK)
Hi all

To add to the Zealy variations - most of my line were down as Sealy or Sealey, although the early ones in Wiltshire were Zealy. Since they were all illiterate, it was up to the priest or registrar to spell it. One vicar tended to use Seely or Seeley. Because the family straddled 2 registration districts it was noticable that the Pewsey registrar always spelled it Sealey whereas the Devizes chap used Sealy for the same person.
Zelley - on this name, have you found any ancestors who wandered over the Dorset into Wiltshire?
Angela

I'm not sure but I believe the first ones in Dorset appeared in the Broadwinsor/ "Little Winsar" area near the Devon & Somerset border area.   I thing some of the Dorset and Wiltshire ones also had the Zellye or Sellye variation.  Also, some of the Devon & Dorset ones
had the Selly & Selley variation.

Also, at least one of the Wiltshire ones and family travelled to Gloucestershire that led to the USA branch that began
in New Jersey (Burlington area near the Pennsylvania border.

Not sure if all of these are connected to one with the ZELY name
in Worcestershire in the 1300's.

The ZEELEY variation doesn't sound like an English variation.
Likely a Dutch version of the name.

Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 01 August 05 10:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
Interesting topic.
I have

Peirce,Pierce, Pierse,Perce,Pearce,Pearse,Pevice,Perice,Price and Reace.

I am still trying to trace some Peirce's!! on various census years
but with such variations I find that it is looking for a needle in a haystack.
                   Regards
                                Geoff
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Nick Carver on Monday 01 August 05 11:12 BST (UK)
In my own tree, the worst example is Hesilrig, Hesilrigg, Hesilrigge to Hazelrigg and probably other variants as yet unfound.

Locally, the name Sangster used to be spelled Sanxter and the early 17th Century vicar Roger Peachey's 16 children includes people who now go by the names of Petch, Petchey, Peach and one or two who are still caled Peachey. In the 16th and 17th centuries, there was a family Skot, who presumably became Scotts over time. Wonder if there was a link to north of the border?
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Grothenwell on Monday 01 August 05 20:41 BST (UK)
Sue, you can cut out words in most search engines by inserting a 'minus' for example

Hyatt -hotel

Or look for an Advanced Search as it usually gives you an option to specify words you don't want.

Might narrow if down a little  :D

Hope this helps - always frightened I may be sucking eggs with this kind of thing  ;D




Steph.

Any Idea how to search for the Surname "Still" without getting all the still as in remaining the same ???
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Jean McGurn on Tuesday 02 August 05 07:48 BST (UK)
I get the same type of problem when searching for 'Stables' get all sorts of riding stables.

As for name variations I have found Stables as Stubbs and Stabbs so far. 

Jean
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Ninatoo on Tuesday 02 August 05 12:38 BST (UK)
For Easton I have Easdon, Eisdon, Ersdon, Esdon and one I think may be connected, Airston.

For McCouat I have McCout, McCouit, McQuait, McCowat, McOuat and Macouil.

So far I have had no Smiths or Jones either.

Nina
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Grothenwell on Tuesday 02 August 05 23:14 BST (UK)
Got my first Smith today :-\ marrying a Still in 1756, but it was by finding a tree chart from an anonymous donor to my local FHS, which got my Still line at 1760 back to circa 1600, so that was all right ;D
wish I knew who had handed it in to thank them though.

Grothenwell
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: denben on Wednesday 03 August 05 00:20 BST (UK)
Not exactly in my tree but the witnesses to my g,g,grandparent's marriage in 1847 are recorded on the certificate as 'Emanuel Okle and Margaret Okle'.  Both had "made their mark".  Further research has shown that their surname was 'Oakhill'.

I suppose it works when spoken with a Gloucestershire accent!
Title: STILL
Post by: Zelley on Wednesday 03 August 05 03:48 BST (UK)
Sue, you can cut out words in most search engines by inserting a 'minus' for example
Steph.
Quote
Any Idea how to search for the Surname "Still" without getting all the still as in remaining the same ???
Quote

Try John Still - e.g. the name James Christopher John Still appears
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Grothenwell on Wednesday 03 August 05 12:30 BST (UK)
Thanks anyway Zelley,

But without middle names (or even with I suppose); "Alexander Still" stillcomes up with "Alexander still wanted to do family research" etc >:(

Still trying though ;),

Grothenwell
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Mobo on Wednesday 03 August 05 12:53 BST (UK)
 :D :D :D

For MCNULTY - I've had McNalty, MacAnulty MacAnalty
For DUNN - I've had Dunne, Donne, Done
For MORRIS - I've had Moriss, Morriss, Maurice
For SWARBRICK - I've had Swabrick, Sawbrick, Sawbreck
For LYON - I've had Lyons, Lions

For THEODOSIA - I've had Theodora, Thedera, Teresa
For JOSHIAH - I've had Joshua, Josiah, Joseph, Jesse

and and and...... ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: JAP on Wednesday 03 August 05 13:11 BST (UK)
Sue, you can cut out words in most search engines by inserting a 'minus'<snip>

PassionPlay, Try filtering my maternal Gma's maiden surname in this computer age - yes, it is HACKING!

JAP
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: wheeldon on Saturday 06 August 05 14:11 BST (UK)
I have two cousins called Willshaw - on one birth cert it's Wilshaw and and on her sisters it's Willshaw - the family still can't decide which is the correct way of spelling it.  I've researched my family back to 1760 and none of my ancestors could decide either!

I also have Moffatt/Mofatt/mofat/ Moffitt/ moffet and it just goes on and on and on.  I was in contact with one lady and her Moffatt name had been changed to Muffin over the years.  I'm going to go back to researching this line when I'm more mentally stable.

 ??? Fiona
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: tabitha on Saturday 06 August 05 20:16 BST (UK)
I only have a few(so far!)

Bevan / Beavan / Bevin
Rockett / Rocket
Cox / Coxe
Cummings / Cummins

The only hiccup was one born a Beavan, had a childhood as Watkins and went to Bevan when he married! Took a while to sort that one out  ;D

Tabitha
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Wednesday 14 September 05 19:08 BST (UK)
I only have a few(so far!)
Bevan / Beavan / Bevin
Rockett / Rocket
Cox / Coxe
Cummings / Cummins
The only hiccup was one born a Beavan, had a childhood as Watkins and went to Bevan when he married! Took a while to sort that one out  ;D
Tabitha

Thanks for sharing, please update this thread with more name variations.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 14 September 05 21:36 BST (UK)
We have had fun with hubbys side of the tree...
 
     Each generation seemed to spell the name differently

                Fooks  Fookes Folks Folkes Foulkes and maybe even Fox but Ive still to prove that connection.

                   Tazzie
 


Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: suey on Wednesday 14 September 05 22:24 BST (UK)

After reading through the names above I won't be moaning about my NAILARD, NAILOR, NAYLOR'S ever again, what a nightmare journey some of you have had - now if I could just persuade my lot to stick with one surname and not keep changing back and forth I'd be a happy bunny!
Title: Name Changes - Immigrants
Post by: Zelley on Wednesday 14 September 05 22:35 BST (UK)
Suey and others - I guess we are stuck with what we get,
but what about all those folks that came from mainland Europe to settle in England, Canada or USA, but changed or had their names changed  to such basic names as Lewis, Phillips, or even Smith and Jones.  Now that is a problem for some.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: chrissy on Thursday 15 September 05 10:53 BST (UK)
Davidson-Davison........scotland
     ............chrissy.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Shaztoni on Thursday 15 September 05 11:26 BST (UK)
Just looking at this one now...
Beaver/Beever/Beavers/Beevers all the same family over 4 census
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: XPhile2868 on Thursday 15 September 05 14:34 BST (UK)
Banister, Bannister, Bannester

Title: 1392 - Zely, Martyn at Bristol, Somerset
Post by: Zelley on Sunday 25 September 05 08:19 BST (UK)
Somebody on a Somerset list sent a link to old archives.

While fishing for names, I came across ZELY and MARTYN
in the year 1392 in Bristol.  It appears one Richard Zely
and John Martyn were two of the witnesses to some event that was to be dealt with after the "Feast of Epithany" in
January 1391.

Now, I never checked out the archives to get the details
of the event or the results.  All I know is some of the other
folks mentioned had names like SPELLY and ADAM.

For this thread the important name variation issues would be
ZELY - Zelly, Zelley & Zellye
MARTYN - Martin etc.

Maybe on a Somerset thread, somebody could sort out
what the 1391 issue concerning St. Thomas the Martyr, Church of England at Bristol was all about.

And on the Lighter Side thread, maybe somebody
could check out the subsequent years when the
likes of Francis Drake, Hawkins, Lovell  and other sea dogs
were knocking back a few suds in Bristol
before setting sail from places such as Plymouth
 to challenge the might of the Spanish Armada. ;D
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: chesters on Sunday 25 September 05 08:28 BST (UK)
I have:

Thomason/Thomasson

Hodskinson/Hodkinson/Hodgkinson/Hodckinson/Hodgkins/Hogskinson

Nield/Nields

Blythen/Blything/Blyther
Title: BAKER
Post by: Zelley on Sunday 25 September 05 09:23 BST (UK)
Good to see someone researching the BAKER name, no
significant variations noted, but maybe some have
BACKER, or BAKERS.

But my Richard Baker's spouse has three variations:
Valence, Vellens and Vallance.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: tamor on Sunday 25 September 05 09:26 BST (UK)
I've got Therren, Ternan, Tearney & Tierney - all the same family!

Toni
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: RuthieB on Sunday 25 September 05 10:57 BST (UK)
I have:
Rees and Reese
Tweddell and Tweddle (which reminds me I must post about my mystery Tweddell sometime)
Lumsden and Lumsdon

but my Browns are all Browns and my Joneses are all Joneses (except those that were smiths! - blacksmiths!)
RuthieB
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 03:31 BST (UK)
I have:
Rees and Reese
Tweddell and Tweddle (which reminds me I must post about my mystery Tweddell sometime)
Lumsden and Lumsdon
but my Browns are all Browns and my Joneses are all Joneses (except those that were smiths! - blacksmiths!)
RuthieB

RuthieB

What about the Browne variation, and were any of your Smiths
"whitesmiths".
Did any of your Tweddles stray into the Twidale trees? ???
Title: Beever and Beevor-pots
Post by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 03:37 BST (UK)
Just looking at this one now...
Beaver/Beever/Beavers/Beevers all the same family over 4 census

What about Beevor, and did any of the Beevor folks join
forces with the Pots to become a hyphenated tree
Beevor-Pots? 8)
Title: GODBOLD of Suffolk
Post by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 03:46 BST (UK)
Banister, Bannister, Bannester

Any connection to Roger B. the four-minute miler?

XPhile, I notice reference to Godbold in the signature.
Are you directly connected to the Godbold Families of Suffolk
or did yours hang their hats in Essex or London Town.
Did any have the usual spelling errors such as Goldbold
or Gobald.  And did you know the Godbold name can be
found in the "Domesday Book" of the 1080's, thanks
to old King William aka Duke of Normandy.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 26 September 05 07:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
Interesting topic.
I have

Peirce,Pierce, Pierse,Perce,Pearce,Pearse,Pevice,Perice,Price and Reace.

I am still trying to trace some Peirce's!! on various census years
but with such variations I find that it is looking for a needle in a haystack.
                   Regards
                                Geoff

A new addition to my long list is PENCE.
                                                                Geoff
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: XPhile2868 on Monday 26 September 05 09:23 BST (UK)
Banister, Bannister, Bannester

Any connection to Roger B. the four-minute miler?

XPhile, I notice reference to Godbold in the signature.
Are you directly connected to the Godbold Families of Suffolk
or did yours hang their hats in Essex or London Town.
Did any have the usual spelling errors such as Goldbold
or Gobald.  And did you know the Godbold name can be
found in the "Domesday Book" of the 1080's, thanks
to old King William aka Duke of Normandy.

The only Godbold in my family tree that I know so far is Lydia Godbold, who married Robert Warner in 1776. They are my great great great great great grandparents, and came from Ashfield-Cum-Thorpe, Suffolk.
Title: Lydia Godbold of Suffolk
Post by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 10:00 BST (UK)
[quote author=XPhile
The only Godbold in my family tree that I know so far is Lydia Godbold, who married Robert Warner in 1776. They are my great great great great great grandparents, and came from Ashfield-Cum-Thorpe, Suffolk.
Quote

Well, then if Lydia is your  blood kin as of 1776, then you are
likely  related to all the Godbold's of Suffolk, even the ones that
moved to other locations including the ones that emigrated to
the USA and settled in places like Alabama, South Carolina etc.

If you would like to join a Godbold group, PM me!
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: XPhile2868 on Monday 26 September 05 10:06 BST (UK)
Made a mistake - Robert Warner was born in 1776. They married in 1801.

Title: SMITH - GODBOLD
Post by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 11:25 BST (UK)
Made a mistake - Robert Warner was born in 1776. They married in 1801.

Rose Edith GODBOLD married Joseph SMITH
Rose was the youngest daughter of Charles Godbold & Jane Stannard.
She was born in Peasenhall, Suffolk, and married Joseph in London around 1905.
Title: STILL families
Post by: Zelley on Saturday 20 January 07 11:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway Zelley,

But without middle names (or even with I suppose); "Alexander Still" stillcomes up with "Alexander still wanted to do family research" etc >:(

Still trying though ;),

Grothenwell

Follow-up, any further progress with the research with the STILL name.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Grothenwell on Sunday 21 January 07 19:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Zelley,

Thanks for asking, but nothing as yet.

Due to work commitments I haven't had much time to do much research on any of my family tree.

Best wishes,

Grothenwell
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: KathMc on Monday 22 January 07 10:44 GMT (UK)
I have:

McCluskey to McClusky to McClaskey

Hayes to Hays

Schmieg to Schmeig to Shmig to Shmiech

Kochersberger to Kochersperger to Guggisberg (and every combination in the middle)

Heintz to Heinz

Those are the most obvious and problematic for me.

Kath
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: stonechat on Monday 22 January 07 11:35 GMT (UK)
With one family surname Cock, one of the priests or parish clerks wrote Cock, the other Cook.
Half the children were born to one name, half to the other.

It was only the unusual middle name that convinced me it was happening.

The family changed the name later to Cocks, so that can become Cox.


Bob
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Josephine on Tuesday 23 January 07 19:25 GMT (UK)
Sandie,

Do you have a John Commerell Colyer in your tree? 

He was born 1 May 1851 in Portsmouth, Hampshire but was later a police constable in London.  He and his wife & children are in St. George Hanover Square, London, in the 1901 census.

He married Sarah Fanny Jones in 1879 in Old Brompton, Kent. 

Children:

John William Richard Colyer, born 29 November 1879 in Gillingham, Kent
Caroline Elizabeth Ann Colyer, born 11 June 1882 in Pimlico, London
Florence Mabel Colyer, born 1 December 1884 in Pimlico, London
Bertha May Colyer, born 1893 in Pimlico, London

Regards,
Josephine
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Josephine on Tuesday 23 January 07 19:35 GMT (UK)
I've got:

Duplessis, Duplesse, Duplisse, Duplisea, Duplissea, Deuplissia, Deuplisea, Deuplissea, etc.  (Canada & the U.S.)

Reilly, Reiley, Riley, Rielly, Rielley, etc. (Canada & the U.S.)

McGlinchey, McGlinchy, and it's been transcribed incorrectly as M. Linchy (Canada)

Beaumon to Beaumont (Kent, England)

Ueltschi to Hilchie, Hilchey and Hilchy (Nova Scotia, Canada, originally  from Switzerland)

Gillmor, Gillmore, Gilmore (Canada)

Capocefalo misspelled a million ways from Sunday (from Italy to New York to Connecticut)

Regards,
Josephine
Title: Alexander STILL 1742
Post by: stillborn on Sunday 20 December 09 17:23 GMT (UK)
I have traced my ancestry back to Alexander STILL born around 1742 in Aberdeen, Scotland. He married Jean ANDERSON b-c1742.
Their son, William Alexander STILL b-1769, married Frances Jane SINCLAIRE. Their son, John STILL b-1788, married Margaret YOUNG. These were my Great-Great Grandparents who, along with their parents sailed to America in 1836 and later settled in Ontario, Canada.

I would love to have more information about the Alexander STILL(s) you have mentioned. Perhaps they are connected to my ancestors.

Regards
Gary Still
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: kooky on Sunday 20 December 09 18:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the Hyett variations! I have lost a Samuel Hyatt alias Clulo, last seen in 1869 being sentenced to 3 months in prison for stealing a tablecloth :-[

My Clulos have appeared as:- Chels, Chila, Child, Chilo, Chulo, Chuls, Clabo, Clara, Clewlough, Clewlow, Club, Clubs, Cluce, Cluco, Clueloe, Cluio, Clule, Clulo :), Cluloe, Clulow, Clulowe, Cluls, Clute, Cluto, and Cluts. ::) I think that is 24!

And I thought unusual name Clulo was going to be easy!
Kooky
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: janeyanne on Friday 08 January 10 22:47 GMT (UK)
i have variations of holben  holburn holbert holbourn holborne holbourne or holborn  / willson wilson/  brigham brigum  all makes for interesting reading if frustrating  at times
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: janeyanne on Friday 08 January 10 23:00 GMT (UK)
ps i forgot  McClarren mclarren mclarron mclaren  maclaren  & my name of jane /jayne anne /ann i have been given them all in one spelling or another
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: coombs on Monday 11 January 10 12:59 GMT (UK)
Auber, Obey.

They even used both variations when signing marriage certs and such.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Monday 11 January 10 16:15 GMT (UK)
Strangely, the uncommon name Luffman which is the major focus of my research has 13 variants of name. 8 of which seem to be variants, the other 5 either spelling mistakes or what the vicar thought he heard at the ceremony.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: coombs on Monday 11 January 10 20:48 GMT (UK)
A lot of name variations were human error. The old case of spell it as you hear it so if someone with the surname Blackwell was asked "What is your surname good man?" and the person replied in a local dialect "Blackall" then the perosn asking the question may have wrote it down as Blackall instead of Blackwell if he was a census enumerator or registrar.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 12 January 10 17:31 GMT (UK)
This apparently happened frequently with the surname Cornwell on my mother's side, which was often recorded as Cornell or even as Cromwell.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: coombs on Tuesday 12 January 10 18:23 GMT (UK)
I have Cornwell on my mothers side.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 12 January 10 19:31 GMT (UK)
And so do I in the same region, please see pm I sent a little earlier.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Glenpenny on Thursday 14 January 10 10:28 GMT (UK)
My maiden name was Roobottom but no-one ever got it right. I suffered from being called Robottom, Rowbottom, Rockbottom, Rosebottom, Rothbottom, Robotham, Ruebottom, etc., etc.  My hubby says I only married him to get a "simple" name.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: NEILKE on Thursday 14 January 10 10:35 GMT (UK)
i have flaxons/flexons/fleckey/flacen and a few more spellings
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Plummiegirl on Thursday 14 January 10 14:49 GMT (UK)
I have in my tree the following:

Sell (the right name) shown as Loll, Lell, Sall, Sale & many other variations

Fleming as Heming

Vince as Viacge, but also Vance, Vines

Many variations in spelling are not done by the family but the emunerator taking down their details.

But as an aside my mothers maiden name was Earl & she would often add an E on the end as she thought it looked Posher!!!
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 14 January 10 17:24 GMT (UK)
Over 100 Luffman entries shown as Suffman in 1911 census. Reason I believe the transcriber unaware of the fact that a capital copper-plate L looked very similar to a capital copperplate S. Moral if you can't find an entry in the 1911 under L where it should be well worth trying under S
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: coombs on Thursday 14 January 10 19:50 GMT (UK)
Even names such as Roberts can be mistransribed as Roterbs, Robarts, Robert and Robberts.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Friday 15 January 10 18:10 GMT (UK)
In the 1911 census there is an incidence of the surname Luffman being transcribed as SUFFOMA which is completely unknown. Suggestion to future census transcribers use the ONS website to see whether your creations do in fact exist before publishing them.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Pemus on Thursday 26 August 10 07:47 BST (UK)
No apologies for resurrecting this topic-I have a 'Hodgkinson' who is also a 'Hoskin'. :)  Of particular interest to 'chesters' on this topic, I see-have sent personal message.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Genetrix on Friday 27 August 10 12:43 BST (UK)
If all else fails, try adding "Mc" in front.  I spent two years trying to locate my grandmother's birth certfificate with no luck.  Name was Ravey.  Only when I found a death certificate for another rellie did I notice her mother (the informant) had signed her name McRavey.  I then tried looking for McRavey for grannie and her birth certificate popped right up.  She did, however, drop the "Mc" when she married and its been Ravey ever since. 

All this reminds me of a joke I heard years ago about a lady named Ada Sheepshead.  She hated her name and wanted to get married so she could change it.  Finally fell for a good looking chap and dated him many times till he proposed.  On the eve of her wedding she realized she'd never asked his last name.  Guess what?  It was Ramsbottom!!

Tricia
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Greensleeves on Friday 27 August 10 18:49 BST (UK)
My Sedgwicks are also Sedgewick, Sidgwick, Shedwick, Sedric and so on.  For some time I have been unable to progress with any of these variations.  And then for some reason I tried searching on any possible spellings  I could think of.  Wow, what a hit I have had with Siggiswick and Siggeswick - going right back to the 1400s.  Now got so much info, it'll take me weeks to unravel it.  Am feeling most pleased.

Greensleeves
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: GfL on Friday 27 August 10 18:54 BST (UK)
I have:

Price / Pryce / Pureyor

Titchiner / Titchenor

Cawana Vira which is actally Edwina Vera

Parry / Parrey / Parvey / Porrey

Potesta / Podesta / Patesta

 :P
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Friday 27 August 10 20:11 BST (UK)
I have found 13 variations of the surname, Luffman, at least 9 of which are simple spelling errors from the 19th century onwards. Variations before this time do not really count as there was no standard spelling.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: teaurn on Friday 27 August 10 20:29 BST (UK)
I have a few, the main interesting one for me is

Muncey.  In the past I have found Monsy / munsey/ Mouncey  / Muncie / and even Money

Cleary .  Found Clary / Clarry / Clarey / Clare

Moore .  Found Moor / More

Parcell . Found Purcell / Parcel / Pursell / Purcill

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Friday 27 August 10 20:33 BST (UK)
The most interesting Luffman variation from the mid 17th century in London was spelt: Leoughfman, but earlier than standardised spelling I don't think these really count.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: jlc57 on Thursday 04 August 11 21:10 BST (UK)
I have found Hankinson, Handkinson, Hawkinson, Harkinson, Jankinson
Thistlethwaite, Thistlethaite, Thistlewait (so far but not gone too far yet!)  ;
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: rosiemagic on Thursday 04 August 11 21:45 BST (UK)
Mears is really giving me problems at the minute.

I have Mears, Meres, Mear, Mere, Meer, Meeres

RM  :-\
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 04 August 11 21:46 BST (UK)
Mears is really giving me problems at the minute.

I have Mears, Meres, Mear, Mere, Meer, Meeres

RM  :-\

Don't forget to search for Mairs as well  :)
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Friday 05 August 11 13:08 BST (UK)
Mears is really giving me problems at the minute.

I have Mears, Meres, Mear, Mere, Meer, Meeres

RM  :-\

Don't forget to search for Mairs as well  :)

What no Mares?
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: yn9man on Friday 05 August 11 16:01 BST (UK)
Jory, Jorie, Jori, Joret, Jorey and Jury

Coolidge, Cooledge, Colledge and Colynge

Hambridge, Hambrdge, and Ambridge

yn9man
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 06 August 11 19:54 BST (UK)
Rosie, I would seriously examine the possibility of the surname being spelt Mares, remember there was no standard spelling before the late 18th century. I have the surname Ayres spelt Ares more than once, so I think Mares is quite lkikely.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Billyblue on Sunday 07 August 11 01:02 BST (UK)
I Have
Blue / Blew
Moxon / Moxham
Schofield / Scholfield

plus a list of 104 ways to spell Montgomery but so far mine have only spelled it one way!

No Smith or Jones that I've found yet

Dawn M
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: marysma on Sunday 07 August 11 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi,

     I have,

Horn-Horne-Hearn-Hern


Petrie-Petree-Petre

Crimmins-Crimmings-Cremin-Cremean-Cremmens

Peirce-Pierce-Pearce-Pearse-Peerce

Very frustrating at times :-\

Marysma
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: akanex2 on Monday 08 August 11 11:11 BST (UK)
My record is 9 variations in just 2 generations on my maternal side:-

Gresham-Grisham-Gressam-Grissam-Grissim-Grissom-Grisame-Grassam-Grisome (plus 1 mistranscribed in will calendar as "Frissam").

Best on paternal side:-

Blakely-Blakley-Blakeley-Blackl(e)y-Bleakl(e)y
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: stonechat on Monday 08 August 11 11:51 BST (UK)
I have a Small Berryman branch not yet attached to my tree though not finding the record.

Variations

Berryman - Berriman - Bereman - Bereiman - Beriman - Berrieman - Berreman - Beryman

One can easily think of more

On top of that maybe Perryman might be a variation
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: tmp48 on Tuesday 15 August 17 17:07 BST (UK)
Family surname is PEARCY,  but variations on the census records:- PEACY PEACEY, PACEY, PEARCE.

Even a Death Certificate as PIERCEY!
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Wednesday 16 August 17 09:34 BST (UK)
Family surname is PEARCY,  but variations on the census records:- PEACY PEACEY, PACEY, PEARCE.

Even a Death Certificate as PIERCEY!

It's not my family surname, but a distant ancestor had several of those, as well as being married as Pearson.  I put much of it down to dialect variation, as well as unfamiliarity (or deafness) by the cleric.
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: Jackiemh on Wednesday 16 August 17 09:47 BST (UK)
For a start, will list just a few
Plume - Plane - Clune
Hazelwood - Hazlewood - Haslewood - Aizlewood
Harding - Harden
Bower - Bowel
Tozer - Yozer
Jackie
Title: Re: Name Variations
Post by: radstockjeff on Wednesday 16 August 17 11:03 BST (UK)
Only just spotted this thread so these may have cropped up previously.

Greaves, Grieves, Greves,Greeves, Graves, Groves
Julnes,Julens,Julners,Jillings, Julians