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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: hoprigg on Wednesday 07 August 13 15:49 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone is able to find out if a marriage took place either at Paxton or Lamberton Toll's. The date would be August 1850, names are: Peter Drummond and Mary Clazie...
Thank you :-)
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The marriage, if there was one may have been before that. There is a birth of a Peter Drummond to a Peter Drummond and a Mary Sherry Edwards Clezy, on the 24 Oct 1830, at Edrom, Berwick. He would have been the first of possibly 8 children.
Regards
Malky
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Thank you for the reply, where did you find that info? Mary Clazie was actually born abt 1829 and her son Peter was born 1850 with her husband Peter who was born abt 1822. They had 11 children.
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Hi all ,
1851 Census transcription -
http://www.maxwellancestry.com/census/51transcript.aspx?houseid=73001089
ev
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Thank you but I have seen that and it shows that the mothers age is around 1828. So still a mystery as to proof of the marriage around 1850?
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"Thank you for the reply, where did you find that info?"
Found on search on IGI, Peter Drummond and Mary Clezy,
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vlo/
Regards
Malky
In addition, if you look for the mother Margaret in the 1861 census, she has a son, John, (c 1833) and a grandson also John (C 1841).
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Peter junior's age is given as 5 on the 1851 Census transcription , think that could be 5 months.
Wonder if that birth should be 24th Oct 1850 not 1830 :-\
ev
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Yes that's the correct birth, 24th October 1850, however his marriage cert in 1880 states he was 28.
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Do you have any of the post 1855 birth certificates of Mary and Peter's children? If so what date and place does it give for the marriage? If you have more than one such certificate are the date and place consistent?
Emma
P.S. I gave looked at original census image for 1851 and it does say 5 as in 5 years but I would agree it is an error. Remember the census we see is not actually the original, it's the enumerators transcription of the householder's schedule so errors do creep in.
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Hi Emma,
Just checked one of the Certs and it states that Peter and Mary were married on the 22nd August 1850 at Paxton Toll.
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Bad news I'm afraid. The two books I have are:
Irregular marriages recorded in the Berwick Advertiser and other border papers 1808 to 1864
Irregular Border Marriages Volume I 1833-1849
The second book, described as Marriages at Lamberton Toll, does have Paxton Toll marriages in it, I think the same man did both. It stops just too early and I'm afraid we don't have volume II. We have tried to get it but it's out of print I think. It's copyright is the Northumberland & Durham Family History Society so perhaps if you contact them they may be able to help.
Emma
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Thank you Emma. Do they have a website or telephone number I can call.
Thank you again :-)