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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: debs14 on Saturday 10 August 13 18:07 BST (UK)
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Hi im looking into the above person in my tree.
I have william born 1704,christened 14th April 1704 Bottesford,Ashby,(which is part of Scunthorpe)i have found marriages in 1740 to Susannah Wressell,Mirzel,Wieset,but can pinpoint which is the actual name,(family search site)
Any help greatly appreciated on this would appreciate any further info on them please.
Many thanks
Debbie
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See for yourself, about halfway down on the right http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=711671&iid=404366
:)
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Hi Geoff,
many thanks for the link to find my past site,unfortunatly i cant read it would you be able to translate for me also how do you find these ive looked and im not able to find any searches on the site i must be doing something wrong
many thanks
debbie
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No, I can't read it either, that's why I didn't offer a suggestion. ;D
You can now see the transcribers' problem.
I never use the site for searching, I just look at stuff found in indexes elsewhere.
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Hi Geoff,
thanks anyway for trying
debbie
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I read LTTP as
William Driffel and Susannah West married June 26th
Diddy
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Hi Diddy,
Thanks for looking at the illegible transcript for williams marriage unfortunatly im still unable to clarify what her maiden name was and your of west just adds another to the list
thanks
Debbie
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William Driffel and Susannah West married June 26th
I can't see that the W of Wm or the W of Welles (on the line below) bears any resemblance. :-\
The clerk's spelling is suspect at best ... on the following lines, I see
Benit
Claton
Stockes
Nu??.
Ales Deen
:(
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Hi Geoff,
im thinking of settling with Susannah Mirzel for the marriage to William someone as sent me a message saying that they have the same marriage, but im thinking of putting a note on the tree stating the other name of Wressell as another possible marriage.
thanks for your help
debbie
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From my index to the marriage bond (transcribed), you can add RISLE :D
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Dear Debbie
Like the other contributors, I have found numerous spellings in the transcriptions of Susannah's name. However I have used the spelling Wressell and/or Wressle as there are numerous references to combined Wressell and Driffill/Driffield families in the Lincolnshire archives. Susannah was from a well known Quaker family in Thealby and there are many references to the Wressell family in Quaker documentation. While I have already constructed much of the Wressell/Driffill tree, I am visiting the Lincolnshire Archives in December (from New Zealand) to pull all of the files that relate to this family group.
As you know Susannah and William married some way from home as a marriage outside 'the friends' was frowned upon and there is reference to this in some of the Quaker documentation. William married well. The Wressell's controlled solid landholdings and as Stephen Wressell died in 1729 leaving a widow and three daughters (the other two remaining spinsters), William Driffill ended up controlling this land. William was the first Driffill in the area of Thealby/Burton upon Stather and over the next two generations the family acquired further landholdings and their claim to specific ownership of land was confirmed when the parish was 'enclosed' in 1803.
The Thealby Wressells are descended from a veritable Quaker 'who's who'.
Christine Driffill McDonald
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Hello Debbie & Christine...
William & Susannah were my 5th great grandparents. I have Susannah's name as Mirzel, but believe it should be some form of Wressel. My line comes through their son, Ralph and Ann Wiliamson, and their son John and Winifred Wade. I'm so glad to learn of the history of Susannah's family!
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Hi Susan
Thank you so much for reading our posts! I hope that I may have some information that will be helpful to you. There are a lot of issues with Driffill family trees that have posted online and circulated and in recent months a group of dedicated Driffill researchers have been collaborating to try and sort out some of the problems in these trees. For example if you are a descendant of John Driffill and Winifred Wade, then we believe that John is not the son of Ralph and Ann Williamson - Ralph being the son of William Driffill and Susannah Wressell. We have a compelling case with lots of hard evidence from the Lincolnshire Archives which shows that Ralph, the son of William and Susannah is mis-represented in almost all Driffill family trees.
If you have worked back through your ancestry to John Driffill (1771-1850) and his wife Winifred Wade, then you are almost certainly also a descendant of Ann Martin and Ralph Driffill of Crowle/Burton upon Stather. This Ralph is not the son of William (1704-1794) and Susannah his wife, but rather their nephew.
In most family trees, the life events of three and up to four different Ralphs have been merged into one person which has created a great deal of confusion.
I have written a bit of discussion paper called "The Mysterious Case of the Mixed Up Ralphs" which endeavours to shed some light on this problem and includes the source evidence which hopefully separates the Ralphs.
I have endeavoured to attach my paper to this message. I do hope that you will find this useful information and I am very happy to discuss with you any of the proposals that I have suggested in my writing.
With many blessings, Christine Driffill McDonald
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I have Susannah's name as Mirzel, but believe it should be some form of Wressel.
The register is here (right hand page). For some reason the clerk forgot to use an upper case W, so the letter is unlike other Ws on the page. http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=711671&iid=404366
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