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Title: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 13 August 13 09:36 BST (UK)
Does anyone have in their Tree a Robert Gordon Dunlop born in Edinburgh in c 1856 in their Tree?He married an Elizabeth Ann Jones in what is given on Lancashire BMD as a Toxteth Park Liverpool,Register Office or Registrar Attended Marriage in 1894.

He is given in 1901 on Ancestry as a Robert G Deerlop!In the later census as Gordon Dunlop a Cotton Merchant.He is living in both in Hoylake Cheshire.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: ev on Tuesday 13 August 13 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Not sure if you have this -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ54-KVV

1855 was the first year of registration of BMD's in Scotland , the certificates contain details that were not included after 1855.

ev
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 13 August 13 11:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks ev.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 13 August 13 16:22 BST (UK)
Hi WRJ,
1861 I think he is down as GERSON Dunlop born c 1856, Edinr, Mid Lothian

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 13 August 13 16:28 BST (UK)
ThanksTrish.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 13 August 13 16:34 BST (UK)
This may be the Marriage;
Alexander DUNLOP
Christian Douglas BOSWELL
04 Feb 1832
Ayr,Ayr,Scotland

1861 Christian is born c 1811, Ayr, Ayrshire


Christian Jacobina Hamilton Douglas BOSWELL
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950   
Birth:   11 April 1810   
Christening:15 April 1810, Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
Father:Hamilton Douglas Boswell
Mother:Jean Douglas
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 13 August 13 16:47 BST (UK)
Thanks,though it is the Elizabeth Ann Jones who he married that is of interest to me.The trouble is of course that it appears that the marriage was a non church one in 1894?I'm pretty confident that another Jones relative is with the couple in 1901 in Hoylake Cheshire given as a Servant.

Of course the object of this is to find someone that may have him in their Tree and have some info.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 13 August 13 16:51 BST (UK)
Ignore that Marriage as may not be right, no Christian with Alexander in early Census

Your reply just came through.

Hopefully someone can help with your query re Elizabeth Ann Jones :)
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 13 August 13 19:23 BST (UK)
Just curious, but am I reading/understanding Free BMD wrong. Looking at the marriage reference, it seems to indicate Elizabeth Ann Smith, going on by how the individual record colouring is.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 13 August 13 19:59 BST (UK)
Just curious, but am I reading/understanding Free BMD wrong. Looking at the marriage reference, it seems to indicate Elizabeth Ann Smith, going on by how the individual record colouring is.

Regards

Malky

Its given as Elizabeth A Jones on Lancashire BMD.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: Unė kthimi i papenduar on Tuesday 13 August 13 20:24 BST (UK)
I agree with Malky on his understanding of the free BDM.    In passing it was in the Sept quarter of 1895 not 1894.     The question is - what is on the certificate?

In both the 1901 and 1911 census there was a niece Amy Evans born 1894 Wrexham  (Doris Amelia Evans), the same place as Elizabeth.    There was a marriage (1893) in Wrexham between an Evans  (this is where the same problem arises) and Mary E Jones or Emily Smith.   There was a subsequent death of a Mary E Evans in 1901.

Purchase of the marriage Dunlop certificate is called for.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 19 June 17 22:49 BST (UK)
Just curious, but am I reading/understanding Free BMD wrong. Looking at the marriage reference, it seems to indicate Elizabeth Ann Smith, going on by how the individual record colouring is.

If you mean the fact that some of the entries are in bold and others are not, this has nothing at all to do with who married whom. In FreeBMD, every entry is keyed by two volunteers. If the two entries match exactly, the entry appears in bold. If it has only been keyed in once, or twice and the two readings don't match, it appears in normal type, not bold.

I see I'm a bit late with this, but if you look at it now, four years on, both grooms' names are in bold and one of the brides, but the other bride is still in normal type.
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: ChristinaJAC on Monday 28 August 17 02:50 BST (UK)
Ive just joined this site and i'm hoping its not too late in joining the discussion.
Its been a bit of a family secret that my great grandmother Aimee Evans Jones was born into the Dunlop household and was brought up as one of they're own. Her mother was a servant apparently in the household in Hoylake.We have no birth certificate for her and no parental names except her father was stated somewhere to be a Thomas Jones?
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: ChristinaJAC on Monday 28 August 17 03:01 BST (UK)
Thanks,though it is the Elizabeth Ann Jones who he married that is of interest to me.The trouble is of course that it appears that the marriage was a non church one in 1894?I'm pretty confident that another Jones relative is with the couple in 1901 in Hoylake Cheshire given as a Servant.

Of course the object of this is to find someone that may have him in their Tree and have some info.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Ive just joined this site and i'm hoping its not too late in joining the discussion.
Its been a bit of a family secret that my great grandmother Aimee Evans Jones was born into the Dunlop household and was brought up as one of they're own. Her mother was a servant apparently in the household in Hoylake.We have no birth certificate for her and no parental names except her father was stated somewhere to be a Thomas Jones?
Title: Re: Robert Gordon Dunlop
Post by: ChristinaJAC on Monday 28 August 17 03:02 BST (UK)
Thanks,though it is the Elizabeth Ann Jones who he married that is of interest to me.The trouble is of course that it appears that the marriage was a non church one in 1894?I'm pretty confident that another Jones relative is with the couple in 1901 in Hoylake Cheshire given as a Servant.

Of course the object of this is to find someone that may have him in their Tree and have some info.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Ive just joined this site and i'm hoping its not too late in joining the discussion.
Its been a bit of a family secret that my great grandmother Aimee Evans Jones was born into the Dunlop household and was brought up as one of they're own. Her mother was a servant apparently in the household in Hoylake.We have no birth certificate for her and no parental names except her father was stated somewhere to be a Thomas Jones?