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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Ken Cameron on Wednesday 14 August 13 12:13 BST (UK)
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Hi all
More ancestors of mine left N.U. on HMS Hercules 1853 and only some arrived Port Adelaide on that ship. They were all from the same Laing family.
The father Alexander Laing died N.U. about 1847, and the mother Catherine (Macdonald) Laing my ancestor, immigrated with her children on Hercules.
They were eldest daughter Janet (19) and new husband Angus Ferguson (27), daughter Margaret Laing (17) {these three arrived P.A. on Hercules}, mother Catherine (45), Ann (16), Ranald (14) listed as Ronald, Alexander (12) and Flora (8) were on Hercules when it left Campbelltown 1852 and were reported as transhipped to Olivia sometime during the voyage. Probably when Hercules was in quarantine in Cork, Ireland Feb, '53.
They do not appear on the Olivia passenger list. A search of all passenger lists for 1852/53 failed to find any of them.
Any information about the Ferguson's and Janet Laing after they arrived Adelaide would be great.
Illumination of possible connections to the missing Laing family members would also aid me in my search.
PS Flora was aged 8 at the time, don't know why funny face appeared there in the text!
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Hi Ken
I found the details below and I think they are your people. I don't understand what some of the abbreviations on the death registration information mean, but other Rootschatters probably will.
The details for the funerals I found on the Trove Newspapers website.
Hope this helps
Noells
Surname: FERGUSON Given Names: Roderick
Date: 1861-11-05 Birth
Father: Angas FERGUSON Mother: Janet (not recorded)
Birth Place/Residence: Mount Gambier
District Code: Gre
Book: 23 Page: 441
Surname: FERGUSON Given Names: John
Date: 1860-01-10 Birth
Father: Angus FERGUSON Mother: Janet LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Port Gawler
District Code: PtG
Book: 18 Page: 481
Digger - South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
Surname: FERGUSON Given Names: Janet Date: 1906-07-16
Age: 71y Status: Widow Death
Relative: Angus FERGUSON (DH)
Residence: Yahl Death Place: Yahl District Code: Gre
Book: 319
Page: 80
Surname: FERGUSON Given Names: Angus Date: 1900-04-23
Age: 75y Death Status: N
Relative: (not recorded)
Residence: Yahl Paddock Death Place: Yahl Paddock
District Code: Gre
Book: 270
Page: 69
DEATH. Border Watch Newspaper (Mount Gambier, SA : 1861 - 1954Wednesday 25 April 1900
FERGUSON.-At Woodlands Station, Yahl Paddock, onthe 23rd April, 1900 Angus, the dearly beloved husband of Janet Ferguson, aged 76 years and three months
FUNERAL NOTICE.The Funeral of the late Mr. Angus Ferguson is appointed to leave his late residence, Yahl Paddock, on THURSDAY AFTERNOON at 1 o'clock p.m. for interment in the New Cemetery. Friends will kindly accept this intimation.
DEATHS. Border Watch Newspaper (Mount Gambier, SA : 1861 - 1954) (Saturday 11 August 1900)
FERGUSON.-At his mother's residence, Woodlands, Yahl Paddock, on August 7th, Alexander, dearly beloved husband of Margaret Ferguson, and eldest son of Mrs. Angus and the late Angus Ferguson, of Woodlands, Yahl Paddock. Aged 45 years.
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Some obits to Angus Ferguson 1900 - he left a widow and 7 daughters and 5 sons!
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36954570
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article81039251
An index to some South Australian BDM's here http://www.genealogysa.org.au/
regards,
Ros
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Hi Ken
I have had a bit of spare time and have found the following details on those who could be your family in South Australia. The ages seem to tie up with those in your post. Yahl paddock also seems to be where the family settled in South Australia.
The surname of Laing seems to be transcribed as Link. Maybe their accent?
Bye for now
Noells
Death possibly Catherine Laing
Surname: LINK Given Names: Catherine Death Date: 1885-03-26
Age: 75y
Relative: Alexander LINK (H) Symbol seems to indicate died in Hospital
Residence: Yahl Paddock Death Place: Yahl Paddock
District Code: Grey Book: 145 Page: 202
Marriages – possibly Margaret and Flora Laing.
Groom: MCCALL Given names: Nicol
Bride: LINK Given names: Margaret
Date: 1863-06-11 Groom Age: 33
Status: Not recorded
Groom's Father: Malcolm MCCALL
Bride Age: 24 Status: Not recorded. Bride's Father: Alexander LINK
Place: Travellers Rest Hotel [Allandale East]
District: Grey Book/Page: 54/352
Groom: KERR Given names: Robert
Bride: LINK Given names: Flora Date: 1874-09-30
Groom Age: Full age Status: Single Groom's Father: Adam KERR
Bride Age: Full age Status: Single Bride's Father: Alexander LINK
Place: Travellers Rest Hotel Allendale East
District: Grey Book/Page: 100/946
Death of Flora Kerr at 46 years of age giving birth year about 1845 ties in with age 8 on arrival in Oz with mother Catherine and sister Margaret.
Given Names: Flora Kerr Death Date: 1891-11-19
Status: M
Relative: Robert KERR (H)
Residence: Allandale East Death Place: Allandale East
District Code: Grey Book: 198 Page: 52
DEATH. Border Watch Newspaper (Mount Gambier, SA : 1861 - 1954
Wednesday 25 November 1891
KERR.-On the 19th of November, at her residence,
Allandale East, of heart disease, Flora, the beloved wife of Robert Kerr, aged 46.
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Following on from Noell's hints, this seems to be death notice for Nicol McCall in 1913
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5801198
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Hi Ken and Rosball
I am now reasonably sure the Link family are the Laing family from North Uist, Scotland.
I just found this death notice in the Mount Gambier paper. It seems to be the Ranald (Ronald) Laing in the first post by Ken.
Border Watch Newspaper Mount Gambier Saturday 1st February,1873
DIED. LINK.-At Allandale, on the 28th instant, Mr. Ronald Link, farmer, a native of North Uist, Invernesshire, Scotland, aged 30 years. (Inverness papers please copy.)
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Hi Noells & Rosball
Thank you for the great work! I never would have transposed Laing into Link. I had been trying names like Lane and Lang without success.
I get my own broadband connection on the Tuesday 27Th, so will let you know how my research of your findings progresses when I can spend more than an hour on the Internet, and have all my Family Tree details at hand. I am using the local library at the moment, which is very limiting on what I can accomplish in any session.
I have taken a copy of this on my USB stick and will peruse it at home over the weekend. I had begun to think that Mother Catherine and the junior children had been lost at sea and never reached Oz. I have been searching for any trace of them on passenger list for some time now without success.
If either of you require assistance with research in Scotland, please let me know and I will do all I can.
Many, many thanks
Ken
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Hi Ken
Very pleased to help you. You won't know yourself with broadband on your home computer.
I will be interested to hear how all this information from Oz fits into your family tree.
It is midnight on Friday night here (23/8) but I will see if I can uncover anything further on the Laing (Link) family over the weekend.
thanks for you offer of help with Scottish research. At this stage I have gone back as far as I can go there (1700's) but maybe in the future I might need some assistance.
Noells
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Hi Ken
Some more information on that family.
You will see that Margaret Link and Flora Link were both married in the Travellers Rest Hotel in Allendale East. I found a list of the Publicans for that hotel and have copied the relevant ones for you.
Owners of the Travellers Rest Hotel in Allendale, South Australia
1864 – 1866 - N. McCall
1872 – 1877 - Robert Kerr
1883 – 1916 - Robert Kerr
Here are some more details on Flora Link/Kerr who died in 1891. Firstly births of children.
Surname: KERR Given Names: Alexander Dick Birth Date: 1875-12-24
Father: Robert KERR Mother: Flora LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Port MacDonnell
District Code: Grey Book: 161 Page: 232
Surname: KERR Given Names: Adam John Birth Date: 1877-08-13
Father: Robert KERR Mother: Flora LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Allendale East
District Code: Grey Book: 189 Page: 81
Surname: KERR Given Names: Jean Jannet Birth Date: 1879-09-23
Father: Robert KERR Mother: Flora LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Allendale East
District Code: Grey
Symbol: A Book: 227 Page: 237
Surname: KERR Given Names: Ronald Birth Date: 1881-12-06
Father: Robert KERR Mother: Flora QUIK
Birth Place/Residence: Allendale East
District Code: Grey
Symbol: A Book: 272 Page: 117
Surname: KERR Given Names: Catherine Birth Date: 1884-04-10
Father: Robert KERR Mother: Flora LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Allendale East
District Code: Grey Book: 326 Page: 151
then I found that Robert Kerr married again after Flora's early death. This was quite normal in those days for someone to look after the widowers' children. The age fits for Robert Kerr.
Groom: KERR Given names: Robert Bride: MCCORMICK Given names: Margaret J
Date: 1892-06-10
Groom Age: 54 Status: Widow Groom's Father: Adam KERR
Bride Age: 27 Status: Single Bride's Father: Henry MCCORMICK
Place: Manse Mount Gambier District: Grey Book/Page: 171/990
This from the Newspaper -
Border Watch Newspaper (Mount Gambier, SA Wednesday 15 June 1892
MARRIAGE.
KERR-McCORMICK.-On the 10th June, at the Manse,Mount Gambier, by the Rev. R. A. Caldwell, Robert Kerr to Margaret Jane (Maggie), youngest daughter of Henry McCormick, both of Allandale East.
I have not yet looked for any children to this couple, however sadly Margaret Jane McCormick/Kerr also died at a young age
Surname: KERR Given Names: Margaret Jane Death Date: 1906-08-14
Age: 41y Status: Married Relative: Robert KERR (H)
Residence: Allendale East Death Place: Allendale East
District Code: Grey Book: 320 Page: 3
I also have details on the McCall family, but will send them by a separate post.
Noells
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Me again Ken,
I hope you have your USB stick with you.
Here are the McCall family - lots of children, and a couple of deaths.
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Malcolm Birth Date: 1864-04-24
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 112 Page: 260
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Alexander Birth Date: 1865-04-24
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 112 Page: 259
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Margaret Birth Date: 1866-08-28
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 112 Page: 258
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: John Birth Date: 1868-12-26
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 112 Page: 257
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Niel Birth Date: 1870-11-16
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 112 Page: 256
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Catherine Birth Date: 1872-11-04
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 114 Page: 470
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Christina Birth Date: 1874-09-10
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margaret LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Caroline
District Code: Grey Book: 141 Page: 280
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Bella Birth Date: 1879-05-03
Father: Nicol MCCALL Mother: Margarett LINK
Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Rivoli
District Code: Grey Book: 221 Page: 296
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Isabella Death Date: 1905-10-02
Age: 26y Status: N Relative: Nicol MCCALL - father
Residence: Rendelsham Death Place: Rendelsham
District Code: Grey Book: 313 Page: 175
Here is the death of Nicol McCall- his wife Margaret still alive.
Surname: MCCALL Given Names: Nicol Death Date: 1913-09-03
Age: 87y Status: Married Relative: N MCCALL (Son)
Residence: Millicent Death Place: Millicent
District Code: Grey Book: 377 Page: 217
Not only were Catherine Laing and her children not lost at sea - they have produced plenty of relatives for you, and I have only looked at Flora and Margaret Link so far ;D
Noells
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MARRIAGE.
KIRKPATRICK-FERGUSON - On July 24, at the residence of the bride,
Woodlands, Yahl, George Edward Kirkpatrick, of Beverley, W.A. son of
the late David Hill Kirkpatrick, of Mount Gambier, to Catherine Ann,
daughter of the late Angus Ferguson, of Woodlands, Yahl, Mount Gambier.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77460651
They lived in Perth, Western Australia until George Edward Kirkpatrick died in 1931. His burial
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00044212 and his death notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77956288 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32371224
and funeral notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32371224
Catherine Ann Kirkpatrick died in South Australia in 1942 reg 648/1980 relative George [DH = deceased husband]. Her death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article80046374
KIRKPATRICK; - At the Mount Gambier Hospital, Catherine Ann,
relict of George E. Kirkpatrick, of Perth, W.A., and daughter of
the late Mr. and Mrs. Angus Ferguson. Aged 73 years.
The remains were interred in the Mount Gambier Cemetery this after-
noon.
regards,
Ros
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Death of John Ferguson (son of Angus) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77928486
FERGUSON.-On the 14th August, 1934, at his residence, "Ioana,"'
Wright Street, Croydon, Adelaide, John, dearly beloved husband of
Eliza Ferguson, and second son of the late Angus Ferguson, "Wood-
lands," Yahl. Aged 74 years.
Marriage of Flora (daughter of Angus) 1896
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77539323
WILCOX—FERGUSON.-On October 13, at the residence of the bride's parents, by the Rev. R. A. Caldwell, Alfred Wilcox, eldest son of George Wilcox, Clifton Hill, Melbourne, to Flora, second youngest daughter of Angus Ferguson, of Woodlands Station. Melbourne papers please copy.
A memorium notice to Angus by his daughters Flora Wilcox and Marion Smith http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article79147794
Death of Marion Smith in 1954 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78687357
SMITH—On August 4, at York, W.A., Marion, beloved wife of Mr. Harry
Smith, and loved daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Angus Ferguson,Woodlands, Yahl.
Some more death notices give her children and their married names
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article52959252
Death of Alexander (son of Angus) in 1900
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article81041314 (sorry you already had that one)
regards,
Ros
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Marion Smith's death notice says she is sister to Jessie McCall of Yahl Mt Gambier.
This seems to be death of Jessie's husband John McCall http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78102841 in 1940
From http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78102841 Jessie McCall died in 1955, relative John [DH = deceased husband], registered at Grey reg 833/6265
regards,
Ros
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Info about Yahl
http://www.dcgrant.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=166
Photo of this headstone is available for a small fee
http://headstones2.weebly.com/mount-gambier-lake-terrace.html
FERGUSON Angas and Janet
I notice a photo of the headstone is attached to an online family tree. There are numerous trees for this family and their descendants.
Cando
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Noells, Rosball and Cando
Outstanding results folks. Way beyond my expectation of what was possible when I first started looking for these ancestors. I did some updating of my family tree at the weekend and include the two pdf's of the newly extended Laing family and Murdoch Macdonald family.
Cando this is the same pdf I sent before, except I opened it on my Windows Vista computer and saved it again there. Maybe it will work for you this time. If not, please let me know and I'll convert them to Jpg's and resend.
I have Outer Hebrides files for North and South Uist, Barra, Harris and Lewis on a CD. They include Census 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 (Index and Returns) and an incomplete set of OPR for the Church of Scotland and RC Churches on some of the islands with birth and marriage records from about 1821 or earlier in some cases. Nothing into the 1700's unfortunately. They are in PDF and Excel spreadsheet format and not complete (some are corrupted files, others are missing altogether.) It is about 358MB in size, too large to email as an attachment. If anyone is interested, let me know and we will try to arrange something.
Ken
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Pleased to be of help Ken.
You must be happy to now have broadband at home.
Noells
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Noells et. al.
Big difference in ease of research with the cable broadband now in the house.
If anyone wants to see my efforts to date, you can find my complete tree at:
www.macfamilytree.com/K I M Cameron/Cameron Knotts Family/index.html
It offers a downloadable GEDCOM file on the home page (or should, if I did it correctly).
Feel free to browse or download as you require.
Please note the spaces and capitalisation in the above URL. They are important.
Kind regards to all
Ken
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Cando, Noells and Rosball,
A final update on how your help enabled me to progress my family tree research in the Australian branch. When I first contacted you all through Rootschat I had 1610 people in the tree. I now have 1875 people. About 90% of that increase are Australian relatives gleaned from all the sources and original names you guys found for me. It was further helped by the unusual surnames I had to trace. Some of these were Bigham (originally from Ayrshire, Scotland), Gladigau and Sage to name but a few.
Once again, many, many thanks for your time and effort, I really do appreciate it. and my tree is still available on line at the web address I gave before if you wish to copy any or all of it and the resources I uncovered.
Kind regards
Ken Cameron
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Hi Ken
I really appreciate your thanks.
Isn't Rootschat a wonderful site. I have had lots of help from various Rootschatters over the years, and if I can I like to see what help I can offer.
I have sent you a private message.
Noells
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Hi Ken,
Only just came across your Laing post and wanted to let you know that I'm descended from Angus Ferguson and Janet Laing via their son Roderick who is my great great grandfather.
I have lots of information about the family and their time in Australia. I even have a photo of Angus and Janet and a photo of a jug they brought out to Australia on the Hercules.
I've been looking into their time back in North Uist, would love to share any info you may have on it.
Cheers
Shelley Tonkin
Perth, Western Australia
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Hi Shelley,
It is wonderful to hear from you. I had almost given up hope of ever making contact with a distant relative (literally and figuratively) from Australia. I would be very interested in any information or details you wish to share with me, and will be only too happy to reciprocate.
I will send you a PM with my email details. I am rewriting my family tree website to make it more accurate and up to date. It is about one third done, so an injection of Oz family member details will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Ken
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Hi Ken,
I don't know if you still monitor this thread, but I think we share common ancestors. My paternal grandmother was Harriet Laing, born 04 May 1889, North Uist. Her husband was Archibald Sinclair of Dunoon Argyllshire. Our common Laing ancestors may have been Ronald Laing and Margaret MacDonald.
I have information on Harriet's family which may add to your tree if we are related.
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Hi Sandy,
Always glad to hear from others working on family trees, especially if they link with mine. I am still working on my tree and would love to exchange info with you.
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Hi Ken,
Harriet Laing had two children, Robert Alexander Laing Sinclair. my father and Flora Sinclair, who was known as Florence to several branches of the family, which I only discovered this year. Flora was married twice.
This is what I have on Harriet Laing's parents and siblings.
Husband Alexander Laing
Birth May 23, 1859 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Marriage
Death May 30, 1930 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Burial After May 30, 1930 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Parents John Laing and Margaret Laing [MacDonald]
Wife Flora Laing [Macdonald]
Birth Oct. 15, 1863 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death Apr. 24, 1938 23 Cnoc an Torran, North Uist, Scotland, UK
Parents Roderick (Rory) MacDonald and Harriet MacDonald
Children
1 Margaret Laing
Gender Female
Birth Sep. 11, 1884 23 Cnoc an Torran, North Uist, Scotland, UK
Husband
Marriage
Death Before 1905 Glasgow, Scotland, UK
Burial
2 Roderick Laing
Gender Male
Birth Sep. 22, 1886 North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland, United Kingdom
Wife
Marriage
Death Dec. 10, 1950 North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland, United Kingdom
Burial
3 Harriet Sinclair [Laing]
Gender Female
Birth May 4, 1889 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Husband Archibald Sinclair
Marriage Nov. 16, 1916 Govan Parish Church, Govan, Glassgow
Death 1961 Denniston, Glasgow
Burial
4 John Archibald Laing
Gender Male
Birth Jun. 29, 1891 Knockintorran, North Uist
Wife
Marriage
Death Kirn, Argyll & Bute, Scot
5 Donald Ewen Laing
Gender Male
Birth Nov. 23, 1893 North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland, United Kingdom
Wife Mary Myrtle Laing [Givens]
Marriage
Death Dec. 7, 1949 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States
6 Anne Laing
Gender Female
Birth Feb. 22, 1896 Knockintorran, North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Husband
Marriage
Death Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Burial
7 Alexander Laing
Gender Male
Birth Jan. 3, 1899 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Burial
8 Archibald Laing
Gender Male
Birth Apr. 17, 1901 Knockintorran, North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death Devizes, Wilts, England
Burial
9 Flora Laing
Gender Female
Birth Apr. 19, 1903 Knockintorran, North Uist
10 Margaret Laing
Gender Female
Birth Aug. 5, 1905 Knockintorran, North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland,
Death Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
11 Marion MacInnes [Laing]
Gender Female
Birth Dec. 27, 1907 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Husband John Archibald MacDonald MacInnes
Marriage Aug. 30, 1938 Knockintorran, North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland,
Death About 1974 North Uist, Eilean Siar, Scotland, UK
12 Norman Laing
Gender Male
Birth Nov. 19, 1910 North Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Wife Christina Sutherland Laing [Bremner]
Marriage 1945 Morningside, Edinburgh
Death 1986 Wick Caithness Scotland
Burial Wick, Cathness
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Sandy,
Many thanks for that info. I attach the PDF I told you about.
Ken
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Hi Ken, My ancestors (Macleans) also came from North Uist on the Hercules. Have you found the information you were seeking - I realise this post is an old one but I am just exploring Rootschat. You may also be interested in a new Facebook page called "Friends of the White Hut Gaelic Cemetery"
I also know of people in Mount Gambier, South Australila who had realtives Laings on the ship ... have you made that connection by any chance. Their surname is Henness. If not let's know and I can pass on your details... email would be great.
Let's know any connections to MacLeans back in North Uist too!
Hi all
More ancestors of mine left N.U. on HMS Hercules 1853 and only some arrived Port Adelaide on that ship. They were all from the same Laing family.
The father Alexander Laing died N.U. about 1847, and the mother Catherine (Macdonald) Laing my ancestor, immigrated with her children on Hercules.
They were eldest daughter Janet (19) and new husband Angus Ferguson (27), daughter Margaret Laing (17) {these three arrived P.A. on Hercules}, mother Catherine (45), Ann (16), Ranald (14) listed as Ronald, Alexander (12) and Flora (8) were on Hercules when it left Campbelltown 1852 and were reported as transhipped to Olivia sometime during the voyage. Probably when Hercules was in quarantine in Cork, Ireland Feb, '53.
They do not appear on the Olivia passenger list. A search of all passenger lists for 1852/53 failed to find any of them.
Any information about the Ferguson's and Janet Laing after they arrived Adelaide would be great.
Illumination of possible connections to the missing Laing family members would also aid me in my search.
PS Flora was aged 8 at the time, don't know why funny face appeared there in the text!
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Hi maccavr,
Thank you for the contact and info within it. I am always happy to chat about possible links to my FT.
The Henness family name is not one that I've come across so far and look forward to exploring that possible link.
I attach a pdf of links found in my Australian research so far and hope you can recognise someone in it.
My NU ancestors have a few links to MacLeans there and it would be good to expand that also.
Kind regards,
Ken
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Hi Ken and thanks for responding.
I have sent an email to the Heness family in Mount Gambier ... I suspect you will find a connection as I know Christine was from Laings that were on the Hercules and your Laings show Mt Gambier and Millicent areas. Are you happy for me to pass on an email address for them to contact you? I suspect they are not on Rootschat.
Re the MacLeans, would love to know any details in attempting to knock down my brickwalls! i have attached a document that outlines what I know. Please feel free to share this document and my email address of taniavr@internode.on.net with any connections that you feel may be interested/willing to share their info.
Regards,
Tania
Hi maccavr,
Thank you for the contact and info within it. I am always happy to chat about possible links to my FT.
The Henness family name is not one that I've come across so far and look forward to exploring that possible link.
I attach a pdf of links found in my Australian research so far and hope you can recognise someone in it.
My NU ancestors have a few links to MacLeans there and it would be good to expand that also.
Kind regards,
Ken
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Ken Chrstine Heness from Mt Gambier has got back to me ...
This is her reply and her email address is peterchristine@internode.on.net
Hi Tania,
That is my family tree, as I and many others descend from Angus and Janet (Laing) Ferguson, son Alexander and wife Margaret (Bigham), Angus and Flora (Fletcher) and my mum and Dad Maurice and Jean (Ferguson) Ward. I was Christine Ward, married twice, first husband Robert Southee and now second husband Peter Heness. Lots of relatives still live in this area of South Australia where the original family settled in 1860’s.
My tree is on ancestry.com.au but with a lot of gaps, as I have concentrated on researching an unrelated tree for a few years.
Yes you can send him my email address.
Thank you
Christine Heness
Hi Ken and thanks for responding.
I have sent an email to the Heness family in Mount Gambier ... I suspect you will find a connection as I know Christine was from Laings that were on the Hercules and your Laings show Mt Gambier and Millicent areas. Are you happy for me to pass on an email address for them to contact you? I suspect they are not on Rootschat.
Re the MacLeans, would love to know any details in attempting to knock down my brickwalls! i have attached a document that outlines what I know. Please feel free to share this document and my email address of taniavr@internode.on.net with any connections that you feel may be interested/willing to share their info.
Regards,
Tania
Hi maccavr,
Thank you for the contact and info within it. I am always happy to chat about possible links to my FT.
The Henness family name is not one that I've come across so far and look forward to exploring that possible link.
I attach a pdf of links found in my Australian research so far and hope you can recognise someone in it.
My NU ancestors have a few links to MacLeans there and it would be good to expand that also.
Kind regards,
Ken
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Maccavr,
Just reading through & noticed this...
"Ann married Alexander MacAskill of Balemore and they lived at Bayhead (I have a little more on them). Marriage details Nov 1858 show Ann, 28 , of Oransay, North Uist - struggling with working that one out"
I'm wondering what you mean by 'working' it out?
I haven't checked anything yet, was just scrolling through posts on places of interest.
Annie
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Hi Annie,
Oransay looks like a smaller island that possibly had a farm ... not sure about crofts etc, so wondering what a single 28 year old female would be doing there, or whether there were perhaps family connections?
Have been unable to find out anything about those aspects and in fact what was on Oransay.
Have passed your the email address onto Christine Heness also.
Cheers, and look forward to hearing more. Email is probably easier for me, but flexible.
Tania
Maccavr,
Just reading through & noticed this...
"Ann married Alexander MacAskill of Balemore and they lived at Bayhead (I have a little more on them). Marriage details Nov 1858 show Ann, 28 , of Oransay, North Uist - struggling with working that one out"
I'm wondering what you mean by 'working' it out?
I haven't checked anything yet, was just scrolling through posts on places of interest.
Annie
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I need to head off but...
I haven't had time to do the figures as I was searching the name of Sarah/Marion MacLean, is this a possible?
Middle Quarter 1841 ED 13 Sch No.55
Sarah Maclean 60 Farmer
Rachel Maclean 25
Donald Maclean 20
Ann Maclean 12
Annie
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Oransay looks like a smaller island that possibly had a farm ... not sure about crofts etc, so wondering what a single 28 year old female would be doing there, or whether there were perhaps family connections?
The occupation of her father may be the answer, was he still alive when she married & what was her occ. on marriage?
Annie
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Hi Annie
I believe that is listed from the 1841 census and shows who we know as Marion MacLean nee Monk, wife of my Alexander (c1770-1840). I have read in several places that Sarah is an other name for Marion! Marion was born 1779, died 1895. This list (census I believe) shows here my Archie's 3 siblings, which tie up with the Croft Books records.
Other people show in their trees yet another sibling named Sarah born in 1818, which I suspect is perhaps daughter of a different Archibald. According to Bill Lawson Alexander had died probably in the 1830's but prior to the 1841 census as Marion was shown as a widow in that census. A notation I have not found. In that census my Archie and his wife Ann (we think MacDonald) were shown with their two eldest children (Alexander 4 and Murdoch 2) at Dunskellor.
I am new to posting on Rootschat so I am not sure what you have seen and what you have not! There are a couple of docs that show what we know so far. The details from Bill Lawson have several of my notes in red and yellow highlighting. I am assuming these were visible to you!
Thanks so much for responding .. if you prefer email that is fine (taniavr@internode.on.net). Any leads most welcome.
Cheers for now,
Tania
I need to head off but...
I haven't had time to do the figures as I was searching the name of Sarah/Marion MacLean, is this a possible?
Middle Quarter 1841 ED 13 Sch No.55
Sarah Maclean 60 Farmer
Rachel Maclean 25
Donald Maclean 20
Ann Maclean 12
Annie
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Father died apparently prior to 1841 census. Ann's marriage to Alexander MacLennan (1858) shows father Alexander MacLean as Crofter deceased. I have attached the SP marriage record in case you can decipher anything further! I had posted this on a few Scottish ancestry FB pages for any locals to help with place names and that is where the Oransay interpretation came from under residence. Have not managed to decipher an occupation.
I have cropped the image, however the file is too large to attach here. I could email - if you want to have a look pls advise email address.
Cheers,
Tania
Oransay looks like a smaller island that possibly had a farm ... not sure about crofts etc, so wondering what a single 28 year old female would be doing there, or whether there were perhaps family connections?
The occupation of her father may be the answer, was he still alive when she married & what was her occ. on marriage?
Annie
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Hi Tania,
I haven't read any other posts of yours anywhere else.
I just have an interest in the 'Uists' ;)
I will PM you my email for the marriage cert. of Ann MacLean & Alexander MacLennan.
Do any of the witnesses at any of the siblings' marriages show any likely relationships?
Annie
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I've noticed two or three names from my tree of Laing ancestors. My grandmother was Harriet Laing (Sinclair) b 1889, her father was Alexander b1859. Alexander's wife was Flora MacDonald b1863. Flora's father was, I think, Roderick MacDonald b1834 and he had a sister Kirsty who married an Alexander Monk. Alexander Monk had at least two brothers, again I think.
Again I'm not certain but I think that Roderick (aka Rory) and Kirsty's father was Ewan MacDonald b About 1789.
This would make Roderick my GG Grandfather.
The reason I'm not 100% sure is that I do most of my research online and haven't triple checked some of the links. I don't know a great deal about the Monk connection as it quite tenuous with shared GGG Grandparents. But I do like adding branches as apart from my brothers, children and grandchildren I don't have more than a couple of cousins that I have ever met.