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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: dwalin on Tuesday 14 June 05 11:58 BST (UK)
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::)hi i have a gggranma ann e.(married name lyton or leighton)she was born 1857 in most possibly okengates shropshire(unsure of correct spelling so sorry if im wrong)she married a john l layton/leighton.they had quite a few children.in clueding my ggranma mary elizabeth layton.born 1883.someone has helped me find them in co durham where they were in 1891.does anyone have a ann e (something).who married and moved to the north or who jut movd to the north.i know its a very long shot but well i can only try.thanks julie.
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Do you know Anne's maiden name? The 1881 census shows an Ann Heathcote wife of James born 1857, Okengates Shropshire - James could have died and she re-married.
Gill
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This looks like them in 1881
John LEIGHTON Head M Male 23 Baguilt Flint Wales Coal Miner
Eliz. LEIGHTON Wife M Female 24 Oakengates Shropshire
Margt. LEIGHTON Daur Female 4 Croxdale, Durham
Joseph HUGHES Lodger U Male 22 Flint, Wales Coal Miner Putter
Tudhoe, Durham, England
RG11 4958 / 107
Page 13
Age and place of birth look right for the wife - she was probably Elizabeth Ann/Ann Elizabeth
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I think this is John with his family in 1871. They are down as Latton, but if you look at the 1881 record, the same Joseph Hues/Hughs is with them and also the same Stephen (lodger) that was with them in 1891 is a possible brother to John
Latton
John Latton b1818 Flint, Wales Head
Mary Latton b 1819 Flint, Wales Wife
William Latton b 1856 Flint, Wales Son
John Latton b 1858 Flint, Wales Son
Benjamen Latton b 1860 Flint, Wales Son
Stephen Latton b 1863 Flint, Wales Son
Joseph Hues b1859 Flint, Wales Grandson
RG10/4912 folio 22 page 37
RD Stockton
SubRD Sedgefield
ED 18
Parish Trimdon
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thank you .this could possibly be them.but where is his wife ann/elizabeth.in her place is a mary.could ann elizabeth be his second wife.its a good point about the lodger though.quite a big coinsedence.did they change names as much as this i have now three different spellings on the name layton.thank you julie.
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Do you know Anne's maiden name? The 1881 census shows an Ann Heathcote wife of James born 1857, Okengates Shropshire - James could have died and she re-married.
Gill
i dont know if im ansering you right but im afriad i dont have her maiden name at all.oh shes a challenge.thank you.
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This looks like them in 1881
John LEIGHTON Head M Male 23 Baguilt Flint Wales Coal Miner
Eliz. LEIGHTON Wife M Female 24 Oakengates Shropshire
Margt. LEIGHTON Daur Female 4 Croxdale, Durham
Joseph HUGHES Lodger U Male 22 Flint, Wales Coal Miner Putter
Tudhoe, Durham, England
RG11 4958 / 107
Page 13
Age and place of birth look right for the wife - she was probably Elizabeth Ann/Ann Elizabeth
yes i think this is them.im going to have to dig a bit deeper to find the rest.but i thank you very much.julie
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Julie
The 1871 record with John and Mary as wife is your John with his parents (before he married Ann/Elizabeth).
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::)hi sorry i have reread it and i now see what you mean.i have only been doing this for about five months or so and still get confused with things.would this be normal then for the names to change so much.i now have john and ann leighton in 1881 thanks to you i can see its the same family.as they also have john hughes as a lodger.i do thank you.julie.
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Hi Julie
Some guesses for you.
John (b1858) married Ann/Elizabeth most likely in Co. Durham - although she is originally from Shropshire he is already in Durham in 1871 (with his parents). I guess you are looking for an Ann/Elizabeth born Shropshire who was also in Co.Durham by 1876 when Margaret (oldest child) was born.
John (b1818) married to Mary (b1817). I am guessing this is a second marriage for one or more possibly both of them. Their oldest child in 1871 was born 1856 (William) this would have meant they were in their late 30's before having children - I can't find them together in 1861 and I can't find either William or Benjamen (Leighton) in 1861 either.
This is John (b1818) and Mary with the other brothers and sisters of John (b1858) in the 1881 census
John LEIGHTON Head M Male 66 Holy Well, Flint, Wales Coal Miner
Mary LEIGHTON Wife M Female 60 Flint, Flint, Wales
Benjamin LEIGHTON Son U Male 20 Bagillt, Flint, Wales Coal Miner
Stephen LEIGHTON Son U Male 18 Bagillt, Flint, Wales Coal Miner
Margaret DAVIS G Daur U Female 17 Brandon, Durham, England
Joseph LEIGHTON Boarder M Male 34 Bagillt, Flint, Wales Coal Miner
Robert LEIGHTON Nephew U Male 21 Holywell, Flint, Wales Coal Miner
Samuel ATKINSON Boarder U Male 23 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Windlestone Colliery Cottage Chilton, Durham, England
RG11 4903 / 20 page 33
You will note that they have a 17 year old grand daughter - nearly as old as their children, so they obviously (between them) have older children.
I will have another look
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Hi Julia
I am pretty sure this is your mysterious Ann E
Anne E CADWALLENDER - shows as married John LEIGHTON 1875 in Durham
Marriage DEC QTR 1875 Durham 10a 560
CADWALLENDER Ann Elizabeth
LEIGHTON John
This marriage also shows on the Durham records index as definitely the two that married each other
http://www.durham.gov.uk/gro/newgro.nsf/search?open&C0425009140614062005$
I have also found her with her family in 1871, in Wombridge Shropshire
RG10/2810 Folio 26 page 45
RD Wellington
SubRD Wombridge
ED 4
Civil Parish Wombridge
Ecclesiastical parish Oakengates
Town Oakengates
Thomas Cadwallader b 1821 Wombridge, Shropshire Head Coal Miner
Margaret Cadwallader b 1825 Wombridge, Shropshire Wife
Enoch Cadwallader b 1847 Wombridge, Shropshire Son
John Cadwallader b1848 Wombridge, Shropshire Son
Isabella Cadwallader b 1852 Wombridge, Shropshire Dau
Ann Elizabeth Cadwallader b1857 Wombridge, Shropshire Dau
Eliza Cadwallader b 1860 Wombridge, Shropshire Dau
Rosannah Cadwallader b1862 Wombridge, Shropshire Dau
Thomas Cadwallader b 1864 Wombridge, Shropshire Son
William Cadwallader b 1866 Wombridge, Shropshire Son
The street address is Ketley Bank
There are a number of CADWALLENDER/CADWALLADER family members in the Durham area by 1881 giving place of birth as Ketley/Kelly Bank so it looks like they all moved up there. Also she names one of her children Enoch.....
Hope this helps
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Hi all, Here is the link for Julies other post that i did this morning for the same family in 1891/1901
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,65634.msg267461.html#msg267461
Joe
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Here's Ann Elizabeth's father in 1841 Census with his family
John 45 miner, Mary 45, THOMAS 20 miner, Samuel 12 miner, John 9, Robert 5. Address is Ketley Bank.
They were the only family in Wellington area with that surname so it's quite possible that the other families found later in Durham could be Thomas' brothers relations.
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Hi
Did you cadwallader change their name to waliter/walliter/woliter by any chance I have a William cadwallader born 1762 married Sarah Luther had awilliam wolleter born 1826
Thanks karen