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Title: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Thursday 22 August 13 19:36 BST (UK)
Looking for the Nolan family from Ladys chapel, kildare:

Thomas Nolan born 1850, Kildare.....Married Elizabeth Healy in Dublin in 1866.
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Sinann on Friday 23 August 13 00:46 BST (UK)
Lady's chapel is confusing.
Do you mean they married in Ladychapel? (Outside Maynooth)
Or was he from a place called Lady's Chapel? ( which I can't find)
Did they live in Dublin or Kildare?
There is a Thomas Nolan 50 from Kildare married to an Elizabeth from Dublin in Dublin in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Royal_Exchange/Stephen_Street/1308232/
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Friday 23 August 13 01:05 BST (UK)
Lady's chapel is confusing.
Do you mean they married in Ladychapel? (Outside Maynooth)
Or was he from a place called Lady's Chapel? ( which I can't find)
Did they live in Dublin or Kildare?
There is a Thomas Nolan 50 from Kildare married to an Elizabeth from Dublin in Dublin in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Royal_Exchange/Stephen_Street/1308232/
Yes thank you that is them.  I recently found a prison record (I have a mad lot) for my lovely ggrandfather and the birth place is lady or ladyschapel.  So I am assuming it's a place.  So I presume this is maynooth.  Elizabeth is from Dublin and I have her family. . But I can't find anything on Thomas other then the census and prison record. Thomas spent his life after his marriage in Dublin.  All his children were born there.  Looks like he may have gone to Dublin for work.  I have found other nolans around his age from the 1901 census also from Kildare possibly siblings but I really have no way of telling.  Any suggestions as to how to find him would be greatly appreciated.  Regards CC
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Sinann on Friday 23 August 13 07:54 BST (UK)
Ladychapel is a church
http://www.maynoothparish.org/ladychapel-church/

There are a couple of places starting with Lady in Kildare
http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/iresrch

Can you post a clip or a link to the Prison record so we can have a look at the place name.
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Friday 23 August 13 13:04 BST (UK)
Ladychapel is a church
http://www.maynoothparish.org/ladychapel-church/

There are a couple of places starting with Lady in Kildare
http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/iresrch

Can you post a clip or a link to the Prison record so we can have a look at the place name.

Name: Thomas Nolan 
 Also Known As Name: Pat'K Nolan 
 Role of Individual: Prisoner 
 Event Type: Prison 
 Event Date: 1916 
 Event Place: Mountjoy, Dublin, Ireland 
 Residence Place: 19 Queens Cottages 
 Age: 58 
 Birthplace: Ladys Chapel Co Kildare 
 Birth Year (Estimated): 1858 
 Prison: Mountjoy 
 Offense: Fail To Pay Industrial School 
 Victim's Name: 
 Victim's Address: 
 Where Convicted: 
 Item Number: 2 
 Book Number: 1/43/11 
 County: Dublin 
 GS Film number: 2357009 
 Digital Folder Number: 004492722 
 Image Number: 00315
 
Attached is the image of this record.

This is the prison record that I am going by.  Even though the year of birth is off, but I have found the birth dates are rarely correct in these records.

I tried calling the church in Maynooth this morning but, they are gone until Monday.

Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Sinann on Friday 23 August 13 15:06 BST (UK)
RootsIreland has 2 records for Thomas Nolan born 1858,  in Kildare quite a few more if you widen the search years.
Can't narrow down to Parish without Parents names.
I tried with fathers name as Patrick and got one result.
To see these you have to pay.
If he does come from the area around Ladychapel I think it would be in Maynooth Parish but not 100% sure.

I looked at the townlands surrounding LadyChapel church on Griffith's Valuation but could not see any Nolans.

Finding him will be hit or miss I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Friday 23 August 13 16:03 BST (UK)
RootsIreland has 2 records for Thomas Nolan born 1858,  in Kildare quite a few more if you widen the search years.
Can't narrow down to Parish without Parents names.
I tried with fathers name as Patrick and got one result.
To see these you have to pay.
If he does come from the area around Ladychapel I think it would be in Maynooth Parish but not 100% sure.

I looked at the townlands surrounding LadyChapel church on Griffith's Valuation but could not see any Nolans.

Finding him will be hit or miss I'm afraid.
Thanks so much,  I'll contact the church on Monday and see if they can look at their records.  I'll let you know if I ever find him and how I did it.  Regards CC
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: hasta on Friday 23 August 13 17:32 BST (UK)
The 1866 marriage record on IG gives his parents as Thomas and Marie/Mary
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5646fb0096754
their address is also 16 Blackhall Row.
Have you found any siblings for him?
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Friday 23 August 13 21:21 BST (UK)
The 1866 marriage record on IG gives his parents as Thomas and Marie/Mary
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5646fb0096754
their address is also 16 Blackhall Row.
Have you found any siblings for him?
Hi Hasta, no I have no siblings.  On the 1901 census it says that he was born in Co Louth which is probably why I can't find siblings in the church records.  Ancestry does not show him either.  On the prison record it says Patrick is a brother but can't find him on ancestry.  The  first Patrick shows up about 1874 but I can't marry him up with a Thomas. CC
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: McLoughlin on Saturday 24 February 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I know it has been a while since you wrote this post but while researching my own Nolan relatives from near enough the same area I have just come across this detail which may be of interest to you: Thomas Nolan born 6 Oct 1858 to Patrick Nolan & Margaret Hopps (At least I think that's the surname), residence Ladychapel.  Godparents are John Nolan and a Bridget Travers.
Also found a William Nolan born 11 April 1864 to the same parents.  Hope this info relates to you.
My relatives are a Michael Nolan and Owen/Eugene Nolan born around same time but don't have exact place of birth but their father's name was Patrick Nolan.
Regards
Mary McLoughlin
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 24 February 18 20:41 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  Mary.
Can I just ask what parish you found Thomas and William Nolan please?
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 24 February 18 20:57 GMT (UK)
Found it number 95 in Maynooth
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633436#page/8/mode/1up
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: dathai on Saturday 24 February 18 21:41 GMT (UK)
Strangely enough there appears to be a burial in Glasnevin for a Patrick Nolan age 70 in 1875     still comes up when entering 16 Blackhall Row.
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Sunday 25 February 18 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I know it has been a while since you wrote this post but while researching my own Nolan relatives from near enough the same area I have just come across this detail which may be of interest to you: Thomas Nolan born 6 Oct 1858 to Patrick Nolan & Margaret Hopps (At least I think that's the surname), residence Ladychapel.  Godparents are John Nolan and a Bridget Travers.
Also found a William Nolan born 11 April 1864 to the same parents.  Hope this info relates to you.
My relatives are a Michael Nolan and Owen/Eugene Nolan born around same time but don't have exact place of birth but their father's name was Patrick Nolan.
Regards
Mary McLoughlin
Thank you Mary for this post.   I haven't been working on my tree since last year.  So I just had a quick look.  I do have the church record for Thomas's birth.  I also have a sibling Andrew but I don't know where I got him from I just have his name. I will be home in April so I hope to root around a bit more.  I'll post what I find.  W/R CC
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 25 February 18 17:00 GMT (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0486  Maynooth
Title: Re: Looking for Nolan Family
Post by: Celticcrafter on Sunday 25 February 18 17:05 GMT (UK)
Strangely enough there appears to be a burial in Glasnevin for a Patrick Nolan age 70 in 1875     still comes up when entering 16 Blackhall Row.
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Hiya D,  I had a look at the record.  As Thomas lived at 16 Blackhall Row before he married.  I am sure Patrick is a relation.  The record shows a Mary as his wife.  So when I get a chance I will have to check the records and see if I can find their marriage.

Interesting note my grandfather O'Farrell was in the army and in 1923 lived at number 17 Blackhall Place.

I was home last year and had an O'Farrell family reunion in Uncle Toms it was awesome there was 22 of us.  This year I am hoping for more as I have been in contact with our rellies in Westmeath and they will be joining us.  :)  W/R CC