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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: AnitaClaire on Thursday 29 August 13 14:24 BST (UK)
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Looking for any information on Patrick Leahy, born Cork 1866 and Margaret Houlihan, born Tipperary 1869, married Fermoy 1885. Had 8 children, 5 of whom survived: Margaret, b 1890, Mary Julia b 1893, Daniel 1895, Anne 1899 and my grandmother Ellen born 1906.
Patrick was a shoemaker and they lived in Pound lane, Fermoy (now known as Devlin Street) in both 1901 and 1911 censuses.
Have no other information, so any help would be much appreciated
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Hi AnitaClaire. ref the above what information are u hoping for? :)
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Sorry, should have been more forthcoming with what I wanted .... I want to find Patrick's parents and hopefully even Margaret's. I have been searching through various sites for some years now with very little success. Any help at all would be very much appreciated.
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do you have their fathers names from marriage certificate and place of marriage.
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Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864 so if Patrick was born in 1866 his birth should have been registered- his birth certificate would list names of both parents & father's occupation (unless illegitimate)as well as exact date and place of birth. However, not all early births were registered. As well as that, ages on census are not always accurate so there may or may not be a birth registration.
What's listed for the name and occupation of Patrick's father on the 1885 marriage certificate? There are some extracted births online which list parents' names. See here for civil registration index as well-
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084
For reference here is the link for 1911 census- Patrick age 44-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/Pound_Lane/413480
However, the only Patrick Leahy in Pound Lane in 1901 is aged 60 years and not a shoemaker which doesn't fit-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/Pound_Lane/1145048
He's been mis-transcribed as Teahy instead-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Fermoy_Urban/Pound_Lane/1145058
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Hi and thank you for reply. I do not have their marriage certificate. The only information I have comes from my grandmother's birth certificate and the census of 1911 and 1901. I found the entry for Teahy instead of Leahy, and this gave me their birth counties, but that is as far as I have got. I do not know where they got married - Tipperary? Cork? That is why I posted the blank wall bit.
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Hi and thank you for reply. I do not have their marriage certificate. The only information I have comes from my grandmother's birth certificate and the census of 1911 and 1901. I found the entry for Teahy instead of Leahy, and this gave me their birth counties, but that is as far as I have got. I do not know where they got married - Tipperary? Cork? That is why I posted the blank wall bit.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY4Z-G4F
There are matching marriage references for Patrick Leahy and Maggie Hoolihan in Fermoy, 1885.
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:)Thank you very much - have now ordered a marriage certificate. Hopefully I might be able to get somewhere at last!
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Hi AnitaClaire, I was wondering if you had any luck with the marriage certificate you were ordering. I have only just found your post. Our Leahy family is said to be from Fermoy & I often look at the Leahy's recorded as living in Pound Lane & Patrick St. Our Leahy family left Cork at some point, as my greatgrandfather John Leahy [aka John Lee] was born in Port Talbot Wales. From 1871 he lived the rest of his life in India dying Isle of Wight 1906. I have had a lot of trouble identifying his father, also a John Leahy, as I don't know his wife's first name. I am now beginning to think that the family may have returned to Ireland, perhaps to Fermoy again. I am interested in your comments. Linda
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Hi Linda, I did indeed manage to find the certificate, but I am not sure if it will help you.
Patrick Leahy age: Full, married Maggie Hoolihan aged 18. Both were born in Fermoy, Co. Cork. He was a shoemaker, she was a servant. His father's name was John Leahy, a sieve maker, hers was Thomas Hoolihan, a labourer. They were married on Saturday 28th November 1883 at the Roman catholic Chapel in Fermoy.
Using this informationI have found John Leahy, the sieve maker in various trade catalogues. He appears to have had the following children: Patrick (my g.grandfather) born 1866, John 1869, Michael 1873, Jeremiah 1874, Ellie 1878 and Ellen 1879. The family appears to have been in Walshtownmore in Cork, which seems to be about 20 km SE of Fermoy. John was born about 1835, and married Hannora or Nora Donovan. That, sadly is all I have - another brick wall reached. Do let me know if any of this ties in with your family - I am not sure that my family had any links with Port Talbot
Anita
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Hi Anita, thankyou for your reply. With 2 Johns in Patrick's family, I don't think my John [1852-1906] is related, not closely anyway. Because of my pre-1871 brick wall, and the many John Leahys, I have started to identify the John Leahys who are not mine, hoping that the right John Leahy senior might eventually become obvious! I presume the John Leahy on familysearch who died in Fermoy,1889, born 1835, is your ancestor. Good luck with your brick wall. Regards, Linda [photo of some of the Leahy children born in India attached.]
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Hi Linda, I agree - I think that although they names are the same, and they come from the same place there appears to be no connection. I will keep looking, and if I find anything else I will post it. Anita
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Hi Anita
I am writing on behalf of my cousin Gwen Mooney and hoping I can put you too in touch with each other. Gwen's grandparents were John Byrne & Mary Julia Leahy. Mary was a sister of your grandmother Ellen. Mary's parents were Patrick Leahy/Margaret Houlihan and Patrick's parents John Leahy/Mary Morrison. John & Mary were married 1923 in Fermoy, Co Cork.
Regards
Joan Earls
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Hi Joan,
Thank you so much. I would love to get in touch with Gwen. My email *
Anita
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Thanks Anita
I have passed your Email to Gwen. She will be so excited to get in touch. I know you will have a reply soon.
Regards
Joan
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And I have replied AND I have found this site, all thanks to my cousin Joan.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi. Are you still here. We are related. Your gggrandmother Ellen had a brother Patrick. He is our ggg grandfether