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Title: Kildalkey
Post by: kaknmo on Tuesday 03 September 13 05:05 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any knowledge of Kildalkey RC parish records in 1864?
My great grandfather, James Nowns (Knowles), and my great grandmother, Mary Quin married in Kildalkey in 1864.  James's father was Harry Nowns. Mary's father was Patrick Quin.

I have contacted the parish, about seven years ago I was there and left a note in the priest house door, I can not get a response.

I am trying to find out the mother of James so I can connect him to the correct Henry (Harry) Knowles, his father, who I think lived in Athboy.

I know a mother's name may not always be mentioned.

Would anyone know anything about any of the above people or Kildalkey parish records.  I know the parish is now connected to Ballivor.  I get no response to queries.

If anyone has any knowledge, i would be grateful!
kaknmo
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: laochrione on Wednesday 26 April 17 14:26 BST (UK)
James Nowns married Mary Quiin [sic] in Kildalkey on 8 Feb 1864, witnesses were Christian Devine and John Martin. There are no parents recorded.
I was unable to locate birth records for a James, son of Harry Knowles

I did find:

Mary Quin   
20-May-1834
Kildalkey   
Father:   Pat Quin   
Mother:   Mary Dunn
Godparents: Tom Byrne and Catherine Quin

Mary Quinn   
03-Apr-1835
Kildalkey
Father:   Pat Quinn   
Mother:   Rose Waters
Godparets: John   Reilly and Mary Byrne

I also found:

James Nowns
15-Nov-1815
ATHBOY
Father:   William Nowns   
Mother:   Margaret Travers
Godparents:   Hugh Sands and Jane Nealon

James Knowles
21-Aug-1817
ATHBOY
Father:   Gilbert Knowles   
Mother:   Anne Russell
Godparents:   Andrew Russell and Bridget Reilly

James Knowles
12-Jun-1849
ATHBOY
Father:   Patrick Knowles   
Mother:   Bridget Farrel
Godparents:   James Hesnan and Mary Hesnan

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: kaknmo on Thursday 27 April 17 04:57 BST (UK)
Dear laochrione,
You are wonderful for finding information for me.
I am so grateful to you!!
Please know you are appreciated very much!!!!
If I understand correctly, you also have a Kildalky connection!
I can not thank you enough for being so generous with your time!
All good wishes,
kaknmo
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: laochrione on Saturday 29 April 17 13:56 BST (UK)
Not at all. If you need anymore help with Kildalkey records feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Mary Quin, born 1842 in Kildalkey
Post by: kaknmo on Friday 05 May 17 04:47 BST (UK)
Hello Laochrione,
I feel like I am taking advantage of your kindness. I hope I am not!
If you are looking sometime at Kildalkey records, could you check for the baptismal record for Mary Quin born 1842.
Her father was Patrick Quin. I would love to know her mother's name and godparents.
You have helped me so much. I am very appreciative.
kaknmo
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: laochrione on Friday 05 May 17 18:45 BST (UK)
I have two possible contenders, but neither is from Kildalkey or 1842:

Name:   Mary Quinn
Date of Baptism: 03-Feb-1845   
Parish/District:   TRIM
Father:   Patrick Quinn   
Mother:   Anne Newman
Godparents: Edward Caffrey and Margaret Newman

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000635283_042

Name:   Mary Quin      
Date of Baptism: 08-Aug-1840
Parish/District:   KILMESSAN
Father:   Patrick Quin   
Mother:   Margaret Wilkinson
Godparents: James Downes and Catherine Swan

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000635168_036

The key to whether she might be related usually lies in the Godparents names. Hopefully they'll match someone on your tree!!
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: kaknmo on Saturday 06 May 17 01:52 BST (UK)
Well, once again I thank you, laochrione!
I agree with you about the value of knowing the Godparents and marriage witnesses.
Mary Quin Nowns appears to be another challenge!!
Good wishes,
Kathy
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: jodie1 on Saturday 17 August 19 03:04 BST (UK)
Hi, I am hoping that someone can help with Kildakey looks ups.
I am looking for records relating to Geoghegan family from Moyrath Kildakey.

 James Joseph Geoghegan/Geagoghan dob 23 Oct 1808 dod 6 Dec 1874 married Margaret Malone abt 1833, b 1806 d abt 1856.
Son Peter abt 1834. I have no other information on him
son James Owen Geoghegan dob 1835. Immigrated to Australia.
not sure if they had more children.
James Owen Geoghegan immigrated to Australia and through Australian newspapers I located his fathers Death notice stating Moyrath Kildakey. Also many references to John Miggins family. I am trying to work out the relationship. His children are Thomas, Owen, Mary, Margaret , Ann all came to Australia with the depositors being James Miggin/Miggins. All from Kildakey. James Owen Geoghegan refers to them as cousins and Thomas Miggins named his house "Meath" and all were invited to funerals in the newspapers. I am hoping that maybe Miggins shows up as a witness or Godparent. Maybe James Joseph Geoghegan b1808 d 1874 had a sister who married a Miggins. I have James parents as Patrick Geoghegan and Alice Mooney with the sponsor Mary Dowal baptised 23 Oct 1808 at Meath Dunboyne.

James Joseph Geoghegan then married Ellen Flood abt 1856, b abt 1825 d bef 1882. Children Patrick b 1856, Margaret b 1861, Bridget b 1865, James Joseph b1867, Thomas b1869. Patrick, Margaret and James immigrated to Australia. Bridget & Thomas I have no information on.

If you still have access to Kildakey records and are able to add any more information it would be very appreciated.

Kind regards
Kelly
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: dathai on Saturday 17 August 19 09:57 BST (UK)
???
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Cloghbrack/Corballis/1620434/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Cloghbrack/Corballis/729125/
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 17 August 19 10:05 BST (UK)

 .........from Moyrath Kildakey.


Moyrath townland, Kildalkey Civil Parish, Co. Meath.
https://www.townlands.ie/meath/lune/kildalkey/kildalkey/moyrath/

KG

Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: jodie1 on Saturday 17 August 19 10:37 BST (UK)
Thank you both for the census and the map which helps to explain the area for me.
This census seems to be correct with the Geoghegan dates. Possibly they went to live there after the death of their parents. Their must be another son named John. Still haven't found the link as Denis Miggin is single
The family names are continually reused between the families with my James Owen Geoghegan naming his daughter Rose Geoghegan b Sydney.
Title: Re: Kildalkey
Post by: CiJaNiPa on Friday 13 October 23 05:03 BST (UK)
Hi Kelly,

I looked up John Miggin who married Mary "Gahagan" in Kildalkey on 30 July 1839. Doesn't have record of their fathers' names. Witnesses are Thomas Murray and Ellen Miggin.

And yes, those darned Miggins named their kids all the same names! I have their kids as:

Margaret (born in 1845 and died at age 20 on 11 May 1874)
Dennis (born 1865, remained single and lived with sisters Lucy and Rose, and two Geoghegan cousins in Corballis 1911)
Lucy born in 1858
Rose 1856
Thomas 1848
James 1847
Owen 1843
and Mary 1841.

I think that's it, but it's hard to get the right combination of misspelled names in the parish records.
Miggin is often spelled Muggin, Muiggan, Muiggin(s), even Magin. Geoghegan is spelled differently in every single record as well. Gaghegan, Geoghan, all kinds of things. And Lucy was spelled Lewis in the record. Ha! I've been compiling my info from Roots Ireland. My husband's third cousins are Miggins and it's been quite the feat trying to piece together all the Miggins when they all name their kids the same set of names.