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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Carmarthenshire => Topic started by: vm davies on Monday 09 September 13 07:42 BST (UK)
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I am looking for my ancestors ? Hannah I believe maiden name was Hazzelby then married David jones he was a tailor they lived in 1, moor lane Aberystwyth they had Margaret A jones Mary E Jane Alice William Hazzelby Jones and my grandfather Thomas H Jones 1878-1953 died in Barry South Wales. William Hazzelby Jones killed In Salonika 1916, left a wife Elizabeth jones his son David Hazzelby jones and Harriet jones lived 9 pier street Aberystwyth after 8 Princess street, I have recently been to visit Aber but found no links. Did they marry or when did they die?
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Hi
Welcome to rootschat :)
There is this birth registration though the date does not tie in with the one you have. :-\ It is the only mention I can see of a middle name Hazzelby
September qtr 1864
Thomas Hazzelby Jones
Cardigan 11b 9
When were they living at 1 Moor Lane
Rosie
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On census 1881 in 1, moor lane then 1891 1901 my Great grandfather had died, Hannah jones widowed her birth place shows as Llechryd Cardiganshire 1839 I have guessed her maiden name because Thomas H Jones born in Aberystwyth was married TH Jones and his death TH Jones also his brother killed in action WH Jones, but I cannot find the births? cannot find a marriage cert for Hannah to David Jones? The only clue I have is that the name Hazzelby or Hazzalby Or Haselby has passed down the male line, my uncle gave his son the middle name also? Thanks Rosie be glad of any info you have. regards Val
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Hi,
There is a marriage in Aberystwyth in Sep 1863 with David Jones and Hannah Husleby on the same page
Aberystwyth 11b 80
Could be a variation of Hazzelby. If the date fits with the children's ages it would be worth you getting a copy of the certificate. That should give you their parents names.
Regards,
Rhosgoch
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Hi this family are at Moore Street, Aberystwyth in 1871?
David Jones 30 occ Taylor
Hannah 29
Margt Ann 3
Richard 1
Census ref RG10/5561/30/54
Keyboard86
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David Jones living in Moor St, Aberystwyth in 1861
Mary Jones 56 wid Llanfihangel Croyddin
John Jones 31 Tailor Aberystwith
David Jones 22 Tailor "
Jane Jones 20 "
Richard Jones 13 "
Census ref RG9/4195/23/40
Rhosgoch
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:) Following on 1861:
1851 census:-
David Jones 45 occ Farm Servant b Lledrod
Mary 46 b Llanfihangel
John 21 occ Tailor b Llanfihangel
Eliza 17
David 15
Jane 9
Mary 6
Richard 3
All other than shown b Aberystwyth
Residing at 11, Thespian Place, Llanbardan Fawr, Aberystwyth
Census ref HO107/2485/205/61
1841 Thespian Place, daughter Mary b 1839 could have died?
Census ref HO1071372/ 2/13 / 18
Keyboard85
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There are christenings at Aberystwyth for two children with parents David/Hannah Jones fathers occ 'Taylor' resident Moor St/Lane
William 29 January 1878
Thomas 30 December 1879
neither have a middle name
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Thanks Rosie, looks like the right fellows, a lot to follow up . I did visit Aberystwyth Library in August, it was like getting into Fort Knox, not really much help, they kept telling me there is no Moor Lane, but we did find it near Holy Trinity church in Aberystwyth.
I think this Rootschat is great
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More baptisms.
11 Sept 1864 at Llechryd, Cards - David Hazelby Jones
26 April 1868 at Llechryd - Margaret Anne Jones
Both children of David and Hannah Jones, Tailor of Aberystwyth.
This means that the marriage I found in Sep 1863 in Aberystwyth is the correct one.
In the 1871 census David Jones is living with his grandparents Thomas and Margaret Hazelby in Llechryd. I believe you already have this record for Thomas.
There is a record of Marriage Banns for Thomas Hazelby of Llechryd and Margaret Thomas of Pembrin on 8 April 1838 at Llechryd.
Regards,
Rhosgoch
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Hi all a have been pondering this family over the last couple of hours, this is the ( I think) family the OP has for 1881:-
David Jones 37 occ Tailor b Aberystwyth
Hannah 37 b Cardigan
Margaret Anne 9
Mary Elizabeth 7
William 4
Thomas 2
Alice 5
All children born Aberystwyth
Residing at Moor Lane, Aberystwyth
Census ref RG11/5445/23/41
So are these the same family members in 1901?
Hannah 62 b Stichryd
Margaret A 28
Jane A 24
Thomas 20
Residing at 1, Moor Lane, Aberystwyth
Census ref Ref RG13/5163/124/24
Just found 1891:-
David Jones 50 occ Tailor
Hannah 50
Margaret A 18
Mary 17
Alice 16
William 15
Thomas 11
Residing 1 Moor Street, Aberystwyth
Census ref RG12/4558/40/26
So 1868 baptism of Margaret Ann looks wrong?
Keyboard86
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It is the same family. Margaret Anne b1868 is with the family in the 1871, so I speculate that either she died c1871/2 and the next daughter was given the same name, or she knocked a few years off her age. That was very common.
I also wonder if Thomas Hazzelby Jones registered Cardigan Sept 1864 is in fact David Hazelby Jones baptised in Llechryd 11 Sept 1864. It seems a big coincidence, and Llechryd is in Cardigan registration district. There are lots of mistakes in the registers.
Regards,
Rhosgoch
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It is the same family. Margaret Anne b1868 is with the family in the 1871, so I speculate that either she died c1871/2 and the next daughter was given the same name, or she knocked a few years off her age. That was very common.
I also wonder if Thomas Hazzelby Jones registered Cardigan Sept 1864 is in fact David Hazelby Jones baptised in Llechryd 11 Sept 1864. It seems a big coincidence, and Llechryd is in Cardigan registration district. There are lots of mistakes in the registers.
Regards,
Rhosgoch
:) Looks good, death Margaret Ann Jones June qtr 1871 Aberystwyth 11b 52 aged 3
New baptism would help c 1873? Plus I do not think going on the 1881 Margaret A " knocked a few years off her age"!!
Keyboard86
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Thanks guys, so much for me to take on board, didn't know about David Hazzelby jones being Hannah and David's son, with his grandparents. I first picked up Hannah with David Jones Census 1881 on Ancestry.co.uk now I how found 1871 David Hannah Margaret Ann also Richard ? dates are confusing me ? in Moor lane. I will order the marriage cert as you suggested, to give me more info on David Jones such a common name. I know happened to William H Jones 1877-1916 and my grandfather Thomas H Jones 1878-1953, but my great aunties are a puzzle, I remember something sad about Margaret, Aunt Mary we stayed with when we visited Aber, no nothing about Jane alice? did they marry? do I have any relations living, my late mother Gwyneth A Jones was writing to E Evans 5, Plas Ave., Llanbradarn rd., aber, I have had no reply.