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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kildare => Topic started by: marcia64 on Wednesday 18 September 13 16:44 BST (UK)
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i am looking for any information i can on the Riddick family from Kildare John Riddick born in 1845 father was Alexander Riddick mother unknown. Alexander was a farmer and John was a mill owner i cant find the mill he owned but it was in Portarlington. John married Elizabeth McDonnell and they had about 12 children i no nothing else about this side of my family im hoping someone can help me
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Hello and welcome ;)
I noticed from another post of yours elsewhere, that John died in Dublin. You will have the family in 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Barrow_Street__Part_of_/1286970/). John is born Tipperary and Elizabeth in Dublin.
Are you just looking for the mill in Portarlington as, presumably, John's marriage and death are known.
Do you have the children's birth details? They may give you help re addresses at those times.
Regards
Heywood
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if you look at the OSI viewer http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,653547,712449,7,8
and search for Portarlington (better to search for a street in Portarlington eg. French Church St. than use the historic maps than use historic layers and click on mills you will see the mills in Portarlington.
There is a flour mill showing just south of the main street, that is assuming the mill was in the town not the surrounding countryside.
This site might be of interest http://www.laois.ie/LeisureandCulture/Heritage/HeritagePublications/FileDownload,1780,en.pdf
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Thank you well trying to go further back now yes John was born in Tipperary and ive seen the census results however one is wrong well they wrote it as Elizabeth was born in dublin but in fact she was born in Athgarvan they were married there i think the mill in portarlington was across the road from where they lived i dont no who her parents are i have a copy of the marriage certificate but the fathers name is unreadable. i want to learn all i can about these people. Will look at the maps like you suggested and thank you for your help
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I lost my old post, it was along time ago. i have a lot of their children and i have just found someone related that is trying to find the names of their other children. i just need to go back to their parents to improve what i have done on my family tree. I think Johns father was a farmer in Kildare Elizabeth's father was a land agent so anything i find out is a help
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Where does the location Portarlington come from?
If John was born in Clonmel, Tipperary and ended up in Dublin city then Portarlington might be 'on the way' as it were but the children are listed as born in Newbridge not Portarlington. Celbridge, where oldest son John was born, is even closer to Dublin.
Moving around so much it's doubtful that John would have actually owned a mill but he certainly could have run it/them.
You can post the bit from the marriage certificate where you can't read her father's name (no the whole certificate) and someone might be able to decipher it.
Possibly John died in 1910? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZ5N-GN6
Daughter Mary Ann born 1873 Newbridge- mother Mcdonnald-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPBX-R7C
Daughter Margaret born 1874-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZS-C28
Daughter Catherine born 1876 Co.Kildare- mother Mcdonnell-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGKQ-ZGZ
Daughter Elizabeth born 1878 Athgarvan (district or sub-district?)- mother Mcdonnell-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG2W-DV6
Son John Francis born 1880 Newbridge- mother Mcdonnell-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJK-1MH
Wife Elizabeth and some of the children in 1911- now in Portarlington-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Portarlington_South/Bracklone_Street/790176
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John is shown as 45 yrs in 1901 giving a birth abt 1856.
There is a marriage:
Alexander Riddick and Eliza Curran in 1847, Kanturk. :-\ I know it's not Tipperary but it's the only I can see at the moment.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGF8-Z6L
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Marcia- there are several online family trees for John & Eliza- is one of them yours? if not I can see an old photograph of them, details of their children, etc.
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The family tree with photos is mine i think i do have photos ive had to guess at some of the names by where the photos were taken. Thank you so much for the info you have put i will start looking at that it does appear that they moved about a bit we thought that maybe he was a manager of a mill but on the 1911 census she is a widow and down as mill owner so its a bit confusing really. thank you so much for looking up and i will take a look at those names you put they are possibly the names that i are missing thank you
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There's more than one family tree online with what looks like the same portrait photograph and it's likely that some of the details have been taken from the other trees.
You can view the Valuation Revision Books to trace the ownership/tenants of a property (a continuation from the printed version of Griffith's Valuation). If you were to start with the 1911 mill and work back it might sort out some details. Also, birth certificates for the children will list exact places of birth rather than the registration district or sub-district.
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I will do, thank you for your help, advice and tips i no a lot of names and as a family i have a lot of photos left from my grandmother of this side of the family. now its more trying to go back a little and build up a picture of who they were. Things get changed as they passed down in families you need to be a detective to work out whats what really> you have given me something that i didn't consider looking at so will do that next and look at who owned the mill ect thank you
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Have you got this already?
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639304218
John Riddick died 30 Nov 1910 late of Portarlington mill owner leaving Elizabeth effects of £228 4s 7d
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for some reason i thought john was born in 1845 how stupid of me to over look that so your marriage to Elizabeth Curran must be right that is a massive help to me it really is thank you, i could kick myself for been wrong all this time thank you
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Hi there.
I too am trying to trace the Riddick family who lived in Portarlington and have acquired some material on the subject. Can you please email me at Removed
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Re John Riddick I have some Portarlington sales invoices and receipts signed by him over the period 1897 1910 also some further information on his family
Are you interested?
Ronnie Mathews, Portarlington.
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Patrick Riddick was one of the sons of John and Elizabeth and he was born in 1885. He married Catherine Murphy on 24 September 1919 in St Andrew's, Dublin. Catherine was a sister of my great grandfather Daniel and was from Rathdrum in Co. Wicklow. Patrick passed away on 15 September 1947 and is buried with his wife in St. Fintans, Deansgrange Dublin.
I hope this is of some interest, cheers.
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Patrick Riddick was one of the sons of John and Elizabeth and he was born in 1885. He married Catherine Murphy on 24 September 1919 in St Andrew's, Dublin. Catherine was a sister of my great grandfather Daniel and was from Rathdrum in Co. Wicklow. Patrick passed away on 15 September 1947 and is buried with his wife in St. Fintans, Deansgrange Dublin.
I hope this is of some interest, cheers.
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Marciano. Because I'm familiar with the areas you mention this is how I would explain the differences. Portarlington used to be major train connection station and is situated in Co Laois. However the train journey as I recall from Kildare Station to Portarlington station was only about 15-20 minutes down the line.
Take the same train the opposite way ( towards Dublin) The next stop down the line is Newbridge.
Today Athgarvan can still be a 20 min bike ride /10 min car drive to Kildare station ) and is situated near the plains of Kildare alongside Brownstown and the Curragh Camp - famous Irish race track and also training for (Irish Defence Forces). CELBRIDGE is 3 miles away.
Family more likely lived in Kildare and surrounding areas & (nearer to Dublin city & maternity hospital at that time). Breadwinner no doubt worked in Portarlington.
History Not so different than some of my own relatives.