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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: ggrocott on Thursday 19 September 13 08:46 BST (UK)
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These do not appear to be on the IGI, does anyone know if they are available anywhere other than at the Records Office?
I am looking for James Adams born about 1778.
On his marriage record he is 'off Waddesdon' but his baptism is not there. On the burial record it says he is 'of Kingsey' - despite the fact that he is buried in Haddenham where he had lived for many years.
Any help much appreciated.
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Sorry, no Adams baptisms at all in OxFHS - Kingsey Parish Transcripts. :(
Being 'of' somewhere, does not neccessarily mean he was born there. There maybe a chance he was born in Haddenham, as he was buried there.
Have you got his death cert.? I would assume his son Joseph was the informant(he appears to be with him in 1841 census, in Haddenham).
Does it give his age in the burial record.
Ask BucksFHS for a baptism search for him, with a small spread of years +/- 5 years. You will receive all(if any) baptisms in Bucks for that period.
Steve. :)
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Thanks bucksboy - he's not at Haddenham - the only one I've come up with so far is at Ellesborough.
The first definite record I have seen for the Adams family is in the parish register of Dinton Church, which shows the marriage of James Adams to Mary Stevens, on the 21st May 1804. James is shown as being of the Parish of Waddesdon and the witness is the Parish Clerk, James Wootton.
A contact who has done a great deal of research into local families advises me that she thinks James Adams actually came from Ellesborough and was baptized on 25 September 1774, the son of William and Hannah. This is also the only possible baptism I have found even with help from Bucks FHS. Trouble is I have been unable to prove this is the right one.
Yes, I have a copy of the death certificate - the informant was the coroner - presumably because the death was sudden and unexpected (visitation of God) and was the subject of a coroner's inquest.
Interestingly son John, having lived all is life in Haddenham is to be found in Kingsey in 1881 and 1891 but is buried in Haddenham in 1894.
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Could he have been a Baptist. Another researcher who has been tracing family records in Haddenham, has come across quite a few Baptist records in Haddenham(not Adams though).
There is a James Adams c1796. Ellesborough, living in Ellesborough........possible son(married to Fanny). ???
Steve. :)
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Unfortunately he's not there either - I have been through the Baptist records - quite a few of the ancestors are there (Cox and Montague) and in the Weslyan ones (Small)! You can't say I don't try!
I may have to go with Ellesborough but I would like a bit more 'proof'.
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Unfortunately he's not there either - I have been through the Baptist records - quite a few of the ancestors are there (Cox and Montague) and in the Weslyan ones (Small)! You can't say I don't try!
I may have to go with Ellesborough but I would like a bit more 'proof'.
If you go to Ellesborough Church, I'm not sure if they hold the registers......or there is a charge to look at them IF you're allowed.
I tried that, and was asked to fork out a good some of money, for someone else to look. I ended up going to the CBS in Aylesbury, and got the info for free. ;) :)
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As you have his possible(Ellesborough) birth parents, have you checked for Will's.
There is one for Thomas Adams in 1796 in Waddesdon. of Coney Hill. A dairyman. And there are more.
https://apps2.buckscc.gov.uk/ecommerce/WillsExternal/WillsExternalSearch.aspx
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Hmmm, I know there are a lot of Adams at Waddesdon who don't appear to be related to mine but I will have another look at the wills - anything is worth a shot!
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There is a James Adams c1796. Ellesborough, living in Ellesborough........possible son(married to Fanny). ???
Funnily enough James and Mary had four children but named none of them after themselves, as far as I know - William 1804, John 1807, Joseph 1811 and Elizabeth 1815 all baptised at Dinton. The Elizabeth is presumably in honour of Mary's mother Elizabeth (nee Hitchcock) and the William possibly James father. Mary's father Daniel is not so honoured! Mary was buried at Dinton in 1819.
I have just found James 1796 in the 1841 in Ellesborough but cannot find a baptism for him - its not on the Ellesborough records on FindMyPast.
The burial record states that James was 67 when he died, the newspaper report says he was 68 as does the death certificate!
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where is ellesborough?!
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where is ellesborough?!
Google is your friend Mike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellesborough
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Ellesborough is a village in Buckinghamshire two miles from Wendover and five miles from Aylesbury. It isbetween Wendover and Little Kimble. The son of James and Fanny, Henry looks as if he is possily a prisoner in Aylesbury jail in 1851 - place of birth Little Kimble and various trees on A******* have him transported to Western Australia in the early 1850s but nothing on his grandparents.
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I was thinking of edlesborough. I had a similar issue to yours I eventually found the person I was looking for had been added erroneously to another household. you only found it by lookung at the original. at one stage it appeared he was tranported.
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Bucks dialect would pronounce both these places of Ellesborough & Edlesborough as 'Elsbra', and was some times confused with Aylesbury.
My father told me his Grandfather lived at Askett(Monks Risborough, Bucks), but in reality it was Alscott, just on the fringe of Longwick, near Princes Risborough.
It becomes hard when our rellies are 'out of town' in the census, and the enumerator writes as heard. And usually the question arises..........'Where is that', and answered.......'Near Buckingham(for example), and Buckingham was written as p.o.b on census, or plain Buckinghamshire.
Never easy, innit. ;) ;D
Sorry....hijacked the thread. ::)
Steve. :)
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edelsborough and ellesborough are two different village. one is near kinble yhe othet near dunstable. both are in bucks. both could be confused.
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edelsborough and ellesborough are two different village. one is near kinble yhe othet near dunstable. both are in bucks. both could be confused.
I have to say, that where Ellesborough church is sited, is absolutely glorious for it's outlook over the countryside. Who wouldn't want to get married, or buried there. It is wonderful. Combe Hill, overlooking the 'front door', and the beautiful Aylesbury Vale to look over, at the 'back door'.
Glorious. :-*