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Title: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: Phil Goater on Monday 23 September 13 17:57 BST (UK)
Thanks to the Moretonhampstead historical society site http://www.moretonhampstead.org.uk I think I have found out the origin of the Schindehutte part of the name of Maria Elsie Shindehutte Parker who was born in Camberwell in 1902.
According to the 1911 census she was the daughter of John Antone Shindehutte Parker who was aged 46 in 1911. (I have confirmed that at least 3 of her siblings carried the Shindehutte name and I suspect that all 7 did.) This fits nicely with the record of Johannes Schindehutte's son John Antoine Schindehutte Parker given on the site mentioned except for the age difference.
Can anyone help fill the generation gap please?
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:13 BST (UK)
The best appraoch is to work back one step at a time.
Here is the family in 1901

RG 13 506 69 14
48 Ansdel Road Camberwell
John 34 jewellers assistant bn Victoria Park London
Bessie M  28  bn Revington? London
Anton 5
Reginald 3
Bessie 2
Doris 4 mths    children all bn Peckham

Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:17 BST (UK)
Marriage

Peckham St Mary
3 Sept1894

John Antone Schindelcitte Parker , bachelor, of the parish of Camden,to Bessie Martha Carpenter, spinster of this parish.


If you get a copy of the cert, it will give his fathers name. Unfortunately, I could only see the Banns, plus a note in the margin saying 'married 3 Sep', online.
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:23 BST (UK)
1891, he is a pawnbrokers assistant age 24

RG 12 474 4 2  (indexed Garder on Ancestry)
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:29 BST (UK)
Not spotting him in 1871/1881 - really ņeed to know his parents names to pinpoint him.

Here is his birth
Oct/Nov/Dec 1866
Bethnal Green ref 1c 266
John A S Parker

Birth cert would give his parents names
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: Phil Goater on Monday 23 September 13 18:34 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the progress thus far. The age of Maria's father John makes more sense in the previous census returns as I'd deduced he was born in 1866.
Cheers
Phil
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 23 September 13 18:35 BST (UK)
Couldn't see the baptism of a John Parker ,but maybe he was baptised as Anton?

Anton Parker baptised at St Simon Zelotes,Bethnal Green on   11 Nov 1866
Parents-John Anton Schindechutte Parker and    Sarah Maria Parker

Address 1 North Side?/Street?

Fathers job Clerk?

The writing is awful ;D
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:39 BST (UK)
I think this must be his christening, just as Anton

Bethnal Green,St Simon Zelotes

11 Nov 1866
Anton Parker
Son of John Anton Schidehutte and Sarah Marie Parker,  ofNorth London, clerk

There seem to be christenings of several siblings all chr 20 May 1863 -
Alice Elizabeth Schindchutte Parker, Amy Schindchutte Parker,  Emma Jane S P and George  Morris S P

Parents in each case John Anton Sch.... parker, of 2 east Street. No ages for the children

(Snap Carol - buddy)
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 23 September 13 18:46 BST (UK)
Snap Liz,bet you've found this marriage too  ;D

Marriages Dec 1849   

Morris    Sarah Maria         Bourn    14   545    

Parker    John Anthonie Schindehutte         Bourne    14   545   
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: lizdb on Monday 23 September 13 18:50 BST (UK)
No - but
Is this the family in 1861?  Fits in with the Lincolnshire marriage too
RG9 299 82 7

East Street, Stepney
John A S Parker 48 railway clerk bn Scotland Selkirk
Sarah M 30 bn Whitechapel
Henry 9 bn Grimsby Lincolnshire
Frank 7 bn Grimsby
Alice E 5 bn middx kingsland?
Emma 1 bn Mile end

Alice and Emma are 2 of those in the bulk christening.
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 23 September 13 18:56 BST (UK)
IN 1851...at Brewery Lane Great Grimsby Lincs

John A S Parker    38 head Railway Clerk in Charge b Selkirk
Sarah M Parker    19 wife b Whitechapel
Maria S Parker    9 Mo dau b Deeping St james Lincs
John D Field    18 visitor railway clerk
Jane Ramsdale    17 house servant
   
HO107/2113
Folio   127
Page   22
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation
Post by: Phil Goater on Monday 23 September 13 19:02 BST (UK)
Definite progress! Thank you very much. The Mortonhampstead site mentions that Johannes'.son became a railway clerk and that the family went to Scotland.
Title: Re: Shindehutte Parker - filling in missing generation *Completed*
Post by: Phil Goater on Thursday 17 October 13 16:06 BST (UK)
Thank You Carol and Liz. Job done!