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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: crazycaz on Thursday 26 September 13 12:08 BST (UK)
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I am looking for a birth date for the above person for a friend, who is his grandson. He was a writer of books - war, gardening and seems to be quite prolific. I can find his books, but not a birth date. The friend has told me his wife was called Barbara, born in 1899 and she died in 2001 in Dorset. Cecil died in the early 1980's but not sure of his birthdate. He believes he may have been born in the West Indies. Cecil lived in Oxshott, Surrey for most of his life.
Many Thanks!
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Cecil Ernest Lucas Phillips
Birth Date 14 September 1897
Date of Registration of death Feb 1984
Age at Death 86
Reg District Surrey Mid-eastern
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From familysearch in 1911
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XW6W-ZRY
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Thanks Rosy99! Please will you let me know how he is listed on the 1911 census, as I still cannot find him on Ancestry. I have tried under surname Phillips and Lucas Phillips, but to no avail! ; :)
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Just put in christian names Cecil Ernest (no surname) resident Ramsgate, Kent
They spell surname Philipps ;)
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Thanks again. :D
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Marriage Reg;
Miles Lucas PHILLIPS, Sept 1895, Cardiff, 11a 413
Ada MOON on same page
Trish :)
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MILES LUCAS Phillips Christened29 July 1866, St Pauls, Clifton, Gloucester
Parents JAMES and ADA JUNE
(Source Familysearch.Org)
If you search on Familysearch the 1881 Census is there.
James Phillips is born c 1833 Birmingham, Staffordshire
(other Census has Birmingham or Birmingham, Warwickshire)
Marriage Reg;
Dec 1857, Axbridge 5c 1065
James PHILLIPS and Ada Jane STACY on same page
1861 James/Ada are in Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
No Children but his Mother age 65 is with them (down as Harriett but image is bad)
She is born c 1796, Bayborough, Somerset.
1851 Census Mother is Harriet and he has a Brother Edwin born c 1835
1841 Census
North Street,
Taunton, Somerset
James PHILLIPS, 35, Painter
Harriett, 50
Edwin, 5
JAMES, 5
Elizabeth Lee, 15, Female Servant
William CLYMICK, 35, Furrier?
All born in County
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thank you for that Trish! I found Miles after I found Cecil, but it was strange that his mother and wife were called Ada J! I had difficulty reading the 1841 census, it was very feint, so thank you for the detail. I couldn't find James jnr's marriage, so thank you again. Seems that Harriet married someone a lot younger than herself, unless it is a younger brother. The 1841 census doesn't give relationships. I notice that Harriet put her status as 'married' in all the census after 1841, but no sign of a husband. I will have to investigate that further, although it doesn't appear that Somerset had parish records online.
C :D
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JAMES Phillips
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Birth: 1 February 1833
Christening: 26 August 1833, SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father:JAMES Phillips
Mother:HARRIET
EDWIN Phillips Christened 20 Aug 1835, St Clements, Worcester, Worcester.
Parents JAMES/HARRIET
Both on Familysearch.Org
I wouldnt worry about Harriet saying she was Mar in 1851 Census as I have often come across that when the Husband is deceased.
Either that or James is working away from Home and died 1851-1861.
As James and Ada J have Children with Lucas as their 2nd christian name eg Margaret Lucas Phillips 1869 then it is possible Harriet is nee Lucas.
Given that she may have Married James Snr late in life she have been a Widow and Lucas was her maiden name.
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Trish :)
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Clutching at straws here!
I googled Bagborough where Harriett says she is born.
Then Bagborough on Genuki;
Harriet MILES Baptised 11/4/1796 West Bagborough to WILLIAM/CHARLOTTE
http://www.wsom.org.uk/Registers/WBagBap17901812.htm
William MILES Married Charlotte ALLEN, 14/4/1795
West Bagborough Records are at the bottom of this Site
http://www.wsom.org.uk/Parreg.html
This seems interesting as James/Ada name their Son Miles in 1865
From the same Site;
James PHILLIPS Baptised 17/01/1805 Taunton St Mary Madalene, to JAMES/MARY
(They are living there James/Harriet/Edwin/James in 1841 Census)
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Thanks! This does seem to be the same Harriet. Bagborough would have been a small place then (not large now!), although I suppose there could have been two women with the same name. They are asking people to put parts of Somerset online; I would love to do it, but I transcribe for Freecens and would not have the time.
Thank you so much for your help!
Cx ;D
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Hi Crazy Caz, I wonder if you can help me. I'm a journalist and I'm planning to write a book on WWII Burma, where I believe C.E. Lucas Philips served in Arakan. It would be great to talk to his family members about him, if possible. If you can help me do that, or have any more information, please email me at (*). Thanks for your help!
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If anyone has any information on Brig-Gen C.E. Lucas Philips, I'd be grateful.
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Thanks.
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Hello,
I am looking to get in contact with the family of C. E. Lucas Phillips as I am interested in discussing with them the possibility of republishing some of his works.
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If one of the family members could get in contact with me that would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks for any assistance