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Title: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Tuesday 01 October 13 10:39 BST (UK)
Gengen started these topics on 5th November 2012, so we've still got a month and 4 days to go

I reckon that I could fill up most of the calendar with the BMDs of my ancestors but it would be more fun if we all did it together, so come on - let's see if we can have at least one person's life celebrated for every day of the year.

Over to you.................

Just to start you off ...  these entries are already in the database**

1 Oct 1711   Marriage   ASHWELL, Thomas   ENG, BDF, Cardington    My 6 x great grandfather, married Sarah Cross   quest40
1 Oct 1711   Marriage   ASHWELL, Thomas   ENG, BDF, Cardington  My 6 x great grandfather, married Sarah Cross   quest40
1 Oct 1801   Baptism   BROOKER, Martha   ENG, BRK, Chievely  3rd Great Grand Aunt  Pejic   
1 Oct 1711   Marriage   CROSS, Sarah   ENG, BDF, Cardington    My 6 x great grandmother, married Thomas Ashwell   quest40
1 Oct 1842   Birth   CROWSLEY, Louisa   ENG, BDF, Kempston  Great grandmother  quest40




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Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: Pejic on Tuesday 01 October 13 10:47 BST (UK)
Just a reminder that I expect to copy some pre-1900 dates from here to the Ancestral anniversaries database (except for people who have sent me a PM saying they do not want their entries copied.)  I will be cutting down on my activity this month and only copying 1 event per chatter per day - to be selected by me very subjectively based on what I deem to be most likely to be useful to future researchers. 
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 01 October 13 10:49 BST (UK)
On 1st October – too many today, so I’ve just picked 3 interesting ones.

William Colett my g.g.uncle married Eliza Whale (nee Spencer) at the Parish Church, Halesworth, Suffolk in 1866.  When living in Hampshire she was previously married to a Mr Whale.  I don’t know how they managed to legally separate in those days, but certainly he too re-married and when Eliza married my g.g.uncle she stated she was a spinster giving her father his correct first name, but giving his surname as Whale!!  I can’t find a death for William, but on 24 July 1873, Eliza married yet again and this time she called herself a widow.

Sir Henry Colet my 13 x g.g.uncle died in London in 1805 oops should be 1505  and was buried at St Dunstan’s Church, Stepney.  He was knighted by King Henry the Seventh in 1485 following his involvement in the Battle of Bosworth Field and became Sir Henry Colet and was the Lord Mayor of London on two occasions, 1486 and 1495.  He was also the Merchant of the Staple of Calais and of Westminster.  I am told that on the north side of the chancel at St Dunstan’s Church is a large canopied tomb with the inscription "Here lyeth Sir Henry Colet Knight twice Mayor of London who died in the year of our Redemption 1505". 

Hannah Pemberton (nee Burrows) my 4 x g.grandmother was buried at St Oswald’s Church, Lower Peover, Cheshire in 1818.  Her age at the time was given as 80, but she was baptised in 1743, so either she was 5 years of age at her baptism, or the age given at the time of her death was wrong.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 01 October 13 11:38 BST (UK)
2 birthdays today:

A 2nd cousin 1R, Albert Henry Parks, born in 1904 in Herne Bay, Kent;  son of Albert Henry and Annie (nee Castle).  He was their only child. He was baptised in December 1904 at St. John, Herne Bay. His father's Will in 1945 shows him as an upholsterer. No more confirmed sightings after that.

A gt.uncle, James Ottley Pain, born in 1893 in Plumstead, Kent;  son of James Ottley and Amelia Sophia (nee Rainer). James married Florence Mabel Avery on Christmas Day 1913 at St. John the Baptist, Hoxton;  his occupation shown as printer. I think they had 7 children and James died in 1963 and is buried in Chadwell Heath Cemetery, along with Florence who died in 1987.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 01 October 13 11:47 BST (UK)
Thanks to Bob for starting this thread - I was away in cloud cuckoo land and forgot about September coming to an end. Blame the world of morris dancing, AGMs etc! ::)

Anyway, today I have three to mention.

Firstly, 1825, my 4 x great-aunt, Elizabeth Bland, married Peter Ovens in Bedale. Oh - how to resist the "bun in the oven" quip....Nope, sorry - failed! ;D

In 1859, Alexander Shaw, my 2 x great uncle, was born in Nairn, son of James Shaw and Margaret Smith and big brother to my great grandmother, Catherine Shaw.

1871 - my other Scottish great-grandmother, Jane Milne, was born in Cruden. She was the daughter of Joseph Milne and Margaret Daniel and she married Peter Raitt in 1895. Here they are celebrating their diamond anniversary in 1955.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Tuesday 01 October 13 12:26 BST (UK)
On 1 October

As given by Berlin Bob from the database, in 1711 my 6 x great grandfather Thomas Ashwell, married Sarah Cross at Cardington, Bedfordshire.

In 1842 my great grandmother Louisa Crowsley was born in Kempston, Bedfordshire.  She was the eldest child of William Crowsley and Catherine Ashwell.  Finding records about her has been challenging as the surname Crowsley has had lots of variations!  In the 1851 and 1861 censuses she was living with her aunt and uncle Mary and Thomas Peacock in Bedford and she married William Conquest at the Bunyan Meeting House there in 1864.

Later in life Louisa left her husband in 1908 (William died later that year) to travel to Montreal to join her son and daughter.  This must have been quite an undertaking for a woman alone aged 65!  There is a family story that her son and daughter were living together as man and wife, but obviously I have no idea if this was true.  On the 1911 Canada census they appear with Louisa as her son and daughter.  She returned briefly to England in 1912, I've no idea why, and then died in Montreal in 1927.  I would love to know the full story of all this, but of course I never will!
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 02 October 13 09:04 BST (UK)
2 birthdays today:

A 2nd cousin, Florence Thackray, born in 1911 in Shoreditch, London;  daughter of Thomas Frederick and Elizabeth Nina (nee Hosler). Florence married Albert Last in Shoreditch in 1934, they had 3 children and Florence died in 1993.

A 1st cousin 1R, Matilda Elizabeth Pollard, born in 1894 in Clerkenwell, London;  daughter of Alfred Samuel and Maria Rachel (nee Barham). Matilda was baptised a few weeks later at St. Paul, Clerkenwel.l  She died in January 1898 and is buried in Manor Park Cemetery, Newham.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: groom on Wednesday 02 October 13 10:49 BST (UK)
Can't miss this one:  ;)

Born on this day in 1452, King Richard III, the last Plantagenet King of England.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 02 October 13 11:44 BST (UK)
On 2 October

Jonathan Benson my 4 x g.g.uncle married Betty Ottley at St Mary’s Parish Church, Ulverston, Lancashire in 1780

Elisabeth Middleton (nee Benson) my 4 x g.grandmother was born in Wigton, Cumberland in 1781.  She married aged 19 and had 12 children, 3 of whom died whilst still less than 5 years of age.  Despite having the same name, Benson, as Jonathan above, I’ve yet to find a direct link between the two families.  My Legacy relationship calculator tells me that Elisabeth is Jonathan’s great nephew’s wife’s grandmother!

Charles Dawson my husband’s 2 x g.grandfather was born in Pilkington, Lancashire in 1815

Frederick Pemberton Hobson my g.uncle was baptised at The Albert Memorial Church, Collyhurst in 1881.  He was my maternal grandmother’s brother and it was by finding his, and another siblings baptism that helped me to find my gran’s baptism.  I searched the parish records of the Albert Memorial Church for baptisms around the time she was born, and found despite the fact that she was female and called Mary Hannah, the parish clerk had written her name down as Seth!  No wonder I hadn’t been able to find her previously.  Seth was, of course, their father’s name.

Elizabeth (Betsy) Pemberton (nee Woodward) died at Blake Lees, Kingsley, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1869.  The cause of her death was cancer of the throat 9 months duration.  She was 56 years old.  She was a widow and left 11 children, the youngest was 15.  Amazingly for the time, all the 11 children lived to be adults, all but one marrying and having families of their own.  The one who didn’t marry died aged 23, from Rheumatic Fever and Inflammation of Kidneys for 2 days, 11 months before his mother’s death.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Thursday 03 October 13 15:11 BST (UK)
On 3 October

In 1824 three Giovannelli children were baptised at St James Church, Clerkenwell.  Edward had been born earlier in the year, on 30 August, so I guess parents Gregory and Mary (nee Kingham) took the opportunity to have his older siblings, Therese and Angelina, baptised at the same time.  Therese was aged 5 and Angelina was 4.  They were my great great uncle and aunts.  Although there were five other children I have never been able to find their baptisms.

In 1874 my great grandparents George Charles Elliott and Sophia Jane Hatch were married in West Ham, Essex.  While I have managed to find most of the relevant records for Sophia, who was born in Wedmore, Somerset, George has been more difficult.  In censuses his birth place is given as Ilminster, Somerset, but I eventually found him born in Southwark, London.  I have never found his death, which was between 1886, when their youngest child was born, and the 1891 census, when Sophia was a widow.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 03 October 13 15:36 BST (UK)
On 3 October 
Joshua Hobson my 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1733

Robert Harry Hobson my 2nd cousin twice removed (and 2 x g.g.nephew of Joshua Hobson above) was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Leeds, Yorkshire in 1858

Baxter Stanton my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Andrew’s Church, Heckington, Lincolnshire in 1802

Priscilla Denby my husband’s g.g.aunt was baptised at St Mary’s Church, Radcliffe, Lancashire in 1830

James Benson my 1st cousin 3 times removed was drowned at sea in 1914, aged 25, his name is on the Tower Hill Memorial, London.  He was a Spare Hand in the Mercantile Marine Service on the Steam Trawler St Lawrence from Hull.  The ship was lost with all hands by enemy action.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Thursday 03 October 13 17:59 BST (UK)
I missed yesterday's anniversary, which was my aunty Alice's birthday - 2nd October 1915. She was my mum's older half sister, born Alice Frost, daughter of James Frost and Amelia Alice Smith. She married Wilf Robson and had three sons. Alice died in Middlesbrough in 1993.

James Frost died in 1917 and Alice's mother Amelia subsequently married Thomas Smith, my mum's father. He was a hot-sawman in the Britannia Mill, Middlesbrough and was injured in a dreadful accident which resulted in him dying on October 3rd 1941. So sad for Amelia being widowed twice before she was fifty.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 04 October 13 08:50 BST (UK)

A special birthday today............my dad is 90.  :)  Family lunchtime get-together with fish & chips followed by cake!
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Friday 04 October 13 10:05 BST (UK)
A very happy birthday to your Dad, nanny jan.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Friday 04 October 13 10:18 BST (UK)
4 October 
Mary Postlethwaite my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1785

George Frederick Cockett my g.uncle died at 41 Hayden Street, Manchester in 1883.  He was nearly 5 and the cause of his death was Rubeola (Measles) and haemoptysis.

Mary Hardy my husband’s g.g.aunt died in 1827, she was 10 months old.  I haven’t got her death certificate, so don’t know the cause of her death.  Her parents had 5 children, 2 of whom died as babies and a third who died aged 5.  Their mother died two years after Mary’s death, whereupon their father re-married (but not for another 18 months) and then he and his 2nd wife had 5 more children, the first two dying aged 2 and 4 respectively.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 04 October 13 10:45 BST (UK)
A very happy birthday to your Dad, nanny jan.

Lizzie

Thanks Lizzie; last surviving child of a family of 7 (he was the baby).  :)
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 05 October 13 09:19 BST (UK)
Born in 1906 in Battersea, my gt.aunt Annie Elizabeth Howard;  daughter of John and Ellen Mary Eliza (nee Viney). Annie married Arthur Frederick Chaplin on Christmas Day 1928 at St. Clement, Kensington.  They had 2 daughters. I remember her as an invalid (some form of arthritis I think), in her bed,  who loved watching show jumping on the television. We would visit her often and she loved having a manicure done by my mum. Annie died in 1965.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: groom on Saturday 05 October 13 11:33 BST (UK)
My great grandmother, who was born Anna Maria Mohr, died on this day in 1927 in East Ham, London. She was born on 22 June 1850 in Wuerttemberg, Germany, one of 9 children. I have managed to make contact with a relative in Germany and know that some of the family came to England, at least one went to America and the rest remained in Germany. Anna was in London by 1871 and married my great grandfather, also from Wuerttemberg, in 1876. Family rumour has it that they met on the boat from Germany, but I haven't been able to prove this.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 05 October 13 12:16 BST (UK)
On 5th October
Thomas Lank and Mary Kind my 6 x grandparents married at St Michaels Church, Uffington, Stamford, Lincolnshire in 1708

Mary Jane Mumby my g.g.aunt was baptised at St Botolph’s Church, Boston, Lincolnshire in 1842.  She had 13 children and died at the time of the 13th one’s birth from partus peritonitis.  Her husband was a schoolmaster – perhaps he was trying to fill his own classrooms.

Jonathan Benson my 5 x g.grandfather was baptised at Holme Cultram Abbey Church, Holme Cultram, Cumberland in 1734. 

James William Mumby my g.g.uncle (twice, he married my 2 x g.grandmother’s sister and he was the brother of my2 x  g.grandfather ) died at 15 Ruth Terrace, Campbell Street, Hull in 1886.  The cause of his death was Phtithis gravis (TB).  It was a sad end to an unhappy few years.  First of all his baby daughter died in March 1881 aged 2 months, then his wife died 3 months later, then 2 months after that his 4 year old son died.  James re-married 3 years later, but he was only married for 2 years before he, too, died.

Phebey Lowndes (formerly Pemberton, nee Hall ) my 5 x g.grandmother died in Manchester in 1791 from Weakness!  She was 66 years of age.  I can’t find a death for my 5 x g.grandfather Jeremy Pemberton, but I assume he must have died as Phebey re-married in 1779 and there was an announcement of an intended marriage on 11 April 1779.  As at the time, she lived in a small Cheshire village, I doubt she would have been able to re-marry unless her husband had died.  I don’t know if she was living in Manchester when she died, or just visiting, but I do know she is buried in a Cheshire graveyard.

Elizabeth (Betsy) Pemberton (nee Woodward) my 2 x g.grandmother (and wife of the g.grandson of Phebey above) was buried at Kingsley Parish Church, Kingsley, Cheshire in 1869.  Prior to her death, she was a widowed butcher and farmer living with 8 of her 11 children and 2 visiting children.  Two of her own children were married and had left home and a third, although he had left home, died a year before his mother.  I have a copy of her will which gives the value of her effects as under £100 (worth about £52,000 today) even though she owned her own property a house in Kingsley which is still standing and her will mentions “all those of my cottages or dwelling houses with gardens and appurtenances ....in Kingsley”.  I guess the £100 didn’t take into account her properties which she stated should be sold and the proceeds divided between her 10 living children.  The family home remained in the family for some time, but has now been sold and modernised.  I have photos of before and afterwards which a distant ancestor sent me, having visited the property and invited herself in  ;D
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 06 October 13 10:01 BST (UK)
A lst cousin 2R, Margareta Mary Eva Lance born in Camberwell in 1882;  only child of Harry and Alice Agnes (nee Pain). She married Arthur Flack in Mildenhall, Suffolk in 1901.  They had 7 children and Margareta died in 1924.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: groom on Sunday 06 October 13 11:36 BST (UK)
My great x 3 grandmother Ann Bates died on this day in 1852. She was born on the 1st August 1802 in Spalding Lincolnshire. She married Samuel Bills, who came from Grantham, on 29 Feb 1824 in London at St Giles without Cripplegate. They had 7 children. Samuel became the licensee at The White Lion 17 Upper Thames Street and then The White Hart PH at 96 Pennington St, Tower Hamlets, which is where Ann died.

I recently discovered that Samuel was fined 20 shillings in 1850 for selling spirits at a Fair without a licence.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 06 October 13 13:23 BST (UK)
On 6 October 
Samuel Collett and Susan Martha Nichols my 5 x g.grandparents married at St Peter & St Paul, Eye, Suffolk in 1724.  Samuel was a tanner by trade

Walter Benson my grandfather died on South Deeside Road, opposite the junction with Accommodation Road, leading to the farm of East Tilbouries, Aberdeen, Scotland in 1926.  The cause of his death was a comminuted fracture of the skull, with resulting laceration and destruction of the brain substance. following a motor cycle accident.  You can tell from the full description of where and how he died, that his death was on a Scottish record on Scotland’s People.  However, I have a report from The Scotsman dated 8 October 1926 (thanks to a kind Rootschatter) which reads:  “Mr Walter Benson, musical director of the Aberdeen Broadcasting Station (2 BD.), was killed instantaneously as the result of a motor cycle accident on the South Deeside Road, at Durris on Wednesday afternoon, while returning to Aberdeen from a trip up Deeside.  How the accident occurred has not yet been definitely ascertained, but something had gone wrong with the machine, which swerved and crashed into a fence at the side of the road.  Mr Benson was thrown from the saddle, and his forehead came in contact with a post so forcibly that, from the nature of the injuries, it is conjectured death must have been instantaneous.  When the body was found life was extinct”.

My grandfather had worked for the BBC (which was a private company until 1927) in Aberdeen as a Musical Director, the BBC kindly sending me a copy of the Staff Duties.  At the top of the command was the Station Director, then below his duties were the names and duties of the other directors.  My grandfather was listed under Musical Director and it gave a description of his many duties, including conducting the radio orchestra, which were many and varied.  He also played the oboe. The BBC also sent me a list of all the employees employed in Aberdeen and the dates they were employed between 1923 and 1932 and the reasons they left.  Next to my grandfather's name it states Deceased. 

He was buried in Allenvale Cemetery, Aberdeen and although the BBC paid for his funeral, there is no gravestone.  I do have a photograph of the grassy plot in the cemetery though.  He left a widow and 6 children, who lived in Manchester, so there’s no way they could have afforded to buy a gravestone.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 06 October 13 13:26 BST (UK)
And here's a photograph of my grandfather on his motorbike.  He was 41 when he died.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 07 October 13 11:04 BST (UK)
Born today in 1845 in London, my gt. grandfather George William Barham; son of Francis and Isabella (nee Bailey). George was baptised in April 1852 (along with several siblings) at St. Bartholomew, Moor Lane.  He married Elizabeth Mary Ann Burgess in 1865 at St. James, Shoreditch. They had eight children.  George worked as a labourer in a brass foundry and died aged 55 in 1901 in Shoreditch Infirmary.  Cause of death was dementia and facial erysipelas. He is buried in Manor Park Cemetery, Newham.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Monday 07 October 13 13:11 BST (UK)
On 7 Oct 
Ernest Wright my g.uncle, known as Uncle Ernie was born at 4 Liverpool Street, Newington, Hull in 1893.  His mother was 50 years old, although at the time she was pretending to be 44.  Ernie was definitely her son and not the child of one of her daughters, as they were either pregnant themselves or too young to have a child.  Family legend has it that she was interviewed on the local radio at the time as being one of the oldest mothers – and this was well before IVF. ::)

Philip Martin Benson my younger brother died in 1991 aged 38.  The cause of his death was a malignant astrocytoma (brain tumour).  He managed to live over 4 years with his illness, even going back to work at one point following chemotherapy and radiotherapy, before the tumour starting growing again.  I miss him every day, especially as I was 12 when he was born and used to help mum a lot with him as she was 42 when he was born and didn’t seem to be coping with him very well. His death shattered my parents, especially my dad who didn't believe his son would die from his illness.

Phebey Hall my 5 x g.grandmother was buried in the North Side of the churchyard of the Parochial Chapel of Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, in 1791

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Monday 07 October 13 13:31 BST (UK)
Yesterday, 6th October was my great-niece, Bea's fourth birthday. She had a splendid new green party dress which she wore all day - little short of a miracle for a child whose preference is to be entirely unclad most of the time!


7th October 1917, my great uncle, James Shaw Howe, died from wounds sustained a few days earlier whilst serving with the Australian army in the Third Battle of Ieper. He was treated at a casualty clearing station and is buried in Lijssenthoek Cemetery, near Poperinge. I went to see him earlier this year and took his "death penny" with me for photographic purposes.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Monday 07 October 13 13:39 BST (UK)
One I missed yesterday -
On 6 October 1840 my great grandfather, Frederic Sewell Wilson, was born in St George in the East, London.  He was the son of Robert Wilson and Harriet Sewell.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 09 October 13 16:49 BST (UK)
One I missed yesterday and one for today.  I have more but they are distant ancestors.

On 8 October
Mary Ann Connor (nee Howard ) my husband’s 2 x g.grandmother was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Liverpool in 1826.  Her husband James was a cabinet maker born in Dublin.  They married in Liverpool and moved to Manchester and had a daughter 18 months later.  I haven’t been able to find James later than the 1855 Manchester Directory which shows him listed as a cabinet maker.  In 1862 Mary Ann had another daughter, no father shown on the birth certificate and Mary Ann gave her status as widow.
 
On 9 October 
Samuel Collett and Lucy Cowper my 4 x g.grandparents were married at St Mary, Dennington, Suffolk in 1753.  Lucy had their first child less than 2 months later.  Interestingly, Dean John Collett a distant ancestor of both Samuel and me was rector at this church in 1485, before many years later he was appointed Dean of St Paul’s Cathedral.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 10 October 13 08:55 BST (UK)
Born today in Plumstead in 1869, my 2xgt. aunt Annie Eleanor Hughes Pain;  daughter of Charles George and Mary Jane (nee Ottley). Annie died of convulsions on 31 December 1870 and was buried on 5 January 1871 in St. Margaret, Plumstead.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Thursday 10 October 13 15:44 BST (UK)
On 10 October 1878 my 1st cousin 3 x removed, John Conquest, along with his wife Mary Elizabeth (nee Barkley) and baby daughter Mary, were murdered at their farmhouse in Vienna, Genesee County, Michigan.  There appeared to be no motive for the crime, and according to the newspaper reports I have found, no one was ever arrested.
John was born in Cardington, Bedfordshire, in 1837, and travelled to the USA with his parents Josiah and Martha (nee Brampton) in 1853.  He had another daughter, Katie, by his first wife, Modena Parker, who was living with his brother at the time of the murder.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 10 October 13 16:50 BST (UK)
On 10 October 
William Collett and Ann Flint my 3 x g.grandparents married at St Peter & St Paul’s Church, Fressingfield in 1791.  William was a widower when he married Ann, he doesn’t appear to have had any children with his first wife who was a widow at the time of the marriage.  She died 2 years after their marriage in 1786.  William and Ann had 8 children who all lived to adulthood.  Ann died aged 53 from a haemorrhage caused by a burst varicose vein in her leg.  Sad, she wouldn’t die of that today.

Elisabeth Hardy my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Lawrence Church, Denton, Lancashire in 1841

Joseph Hobson my 2 x g,.grandfather died in Ingbirchworth, Yorkshire in 1876.  The cause of his death was inflammation of the Bowels, whether this was peritonitis or another problem I don’t know.  Joseph was a grocer and farmer with 9 acres of land.  He and my 2 x g.grandmother had 6 children who all lived to adulthood.   My 2 x g.grandmother lived another 18 years after the death of her husband.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Thursday 10 October 13 19:37 BST (UK)
10th October 1703, my 7 x great-grandparents, Arthur Dickenson and Jennet Jackson were married in Brough under Stainmore, Westmorland.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Friday 11 October 13 12:06 BST (UK)
On 11 October 1766 my 5 x great grandparents, Samuel Crowsley and Mary Burroway were married in Kempston, Bedfordshire.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Friday 11 October 13 15:30 BST (UK)
On 11 October

Sarah Midwood my 5 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Mary’s Church, Mirfield, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1707.  Sadly, she was buried in the same church only 3½ years later.

Peter Pemberton my g.g.uncle was buried at Kingsley Parish Church, Kingsley, Cheshire in 1877.  He was 40 and left a wife and 5 children, his first child dying aged 11 a year before Peter.

William Wane my 7 x g.grandfather was buried at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1727.  I don’t know the cause of his death, but his wife my 7 x g.grandmother was buried in the same churchyard only 5 days later.

Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 13 October 13 09:56 BST (UK)
Born today in Camberwell in 1899, a 2nd cousin 1R, Violet Ethel Barham;  daughter of Joshua and Margaret Eliza (nee Marsh). Violet was baptised in November 1899 at St. John the Evangelist, Walworth.  She married George Heppeler in 1931. George died in 1948; Violet outliving him by 33 years.
Title: Re: Topic: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 13 October 13 14:53 BST (UK)
On 13 October
Bridget Smith (nee Myre) my 7 x g.grandmother was baptised  at  The Parish Church of St Mary, Whicham, Cumberland in 1680.  She married at St Mary’s Parish Church, Dalton in Furness in 1703 and had 8 children.  Her husband, my 7 x g.grandfather died in 1743 aged 67, but I haven’t found a death for Bridget either before or after that.

Irene Olive Smith (nee Kelsey) my mother’s 2nd cousin died in Derbyshire Royal Infirmary, in 2007 aged 99.  She (always known as Olive) despite having lived in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire for most of her life , kept in touch with my mother who had never lived in Lincolnshire, until my mother’s death in May 2007.  I wrote to Olive to tell her about my mum’s death and to ask if she had any information about my maternal grandfather’s side of the family.  Unfortunately, she had lost most of her photographs etc. when moving to live with her niece in Derby (she had no children of her own) but she did have a photograph of her grandfather, brother of my g.grandfather which she kindly had copied and sent to me.  I find it interesting that my mother’s family always kept in touch with their distant relations and from that my mother was able to tell me lots about the family history on her side of the family.

Joseph Hobson my 2 x g.grandfather was buried at St John the Evangelist Church, Denby, Yorkshire in 1876.  I knew from parish records that he was buried there, and spent a wet afternoon searching through all the gravestones hoping to find his.  I was on the point of giving up when I decided to look under an overgrown bush near the wall surrounding the graveyard and there was his stone.  Much to my amazement it also had my 2 x g.grandmother’s name on it too.  She had died in Manchester 18 years after Joseph’s death and I had assumed she would have been buried in Manchester as that was where all her family were living.
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Post by: stormtroop on Sunday 13 October 13 23:03 BST (UK)
Can't miss this one:  ;)

Born on this day in 1452, King Richard III, the last Plantagenet King of England.

God bless our beloved Lord Richard!!, from  a Yorkshire native
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Post by: LizzieW on Monday 14 October 13 13:09 BST (UK)
On 14 October 

Dorothy Chorley (nee Gardner) my 4 x g.grandmother died in Egremont, Cumberland in 1837.  Her death does not appear on the GRO records, but, according to the archivist in the area, her death and burial are listed in the parish records.  As there is no death certificate I have no idea of the cause of her death, and at the age of only 62, I guess she must have died of an illness rather than old age.  She married a man who was 30 years older than her and she had 3 children with him before he died in 1816 when she was aged 41.  Four years later, in 1820, she had an illegitimate son with a man called Joseph Noble a husbandman for which a Bastardy Order was made.  He was baptised on 7 September 1820 and shown as son of Joseph Noble and Dorothy Chorley so, presumably, Joseph was happy to admit that the baby was his.
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Post by: genjen on Monday 14 October 13 13:51 BST (UK)
14th October 1849, Ellen Bland was baptised in Bedale - 2 x great aunt.

1861 - George Raitt was born in Monymusk, Aberdeenshire - 1st cousin x3.

I'm going to be without lap-top for the next few days so will do a few more here......

15/10/1816 - Joseph Hauxwell was baptised in Spennithorne, North Riding. - 1st Cousin x 5
15/10/1918 - James Raitt died in Scoonie, Fife - my great-grandfather's younger brother, born 1873. Like his brother, he had no known father, which is a bit of a nuisance in genealogical terms!

16/10/1728 - John Lonsdale was baptised in Spennithorne - 7 x great-uncle
16/10/1863 - Fanny Lazenby was born in Hull. Wife of 1st cousin x 3 ( what does that make her to me, I wonder?)
16/10/1888 - John William Smith was born in Middlesbrough, son of Harriet Knight and John Smith. He died at the age of seven in 1895.
16/10/1890 - My 2 x great-grandmother, Jane Knight( the above John William's grandma), was convicted of theft and received a nine month term of imprisonment in Northallerton Gaol.

17/10/1902 - my great uncle, Norman Grant Raitt, was born in Aberdeen.

That'll do for now - I should be online to do Friday's anniversaries where they actually belong.
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Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 15 October 13 09:08 BST (UK)
Born today in 1898 in Walworth a 2nd cousin 1R, Margaret Elizabeth Barham;  daughter of Joshua and Margaret Eliza (nee Marsh) and sister of Violet whose birthday was on 13th October. Margaret was baptised at St. John the Evangelist, Walworth in November 1898. She married Bertram Arnold Cole in Camberwell in 1923; two sons were born and Bertram died in 1949. Margaret died in 1975 having lived all her life in the same area of London.
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Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 15 October 13 11:38 BST (UK)
On 15 October
Ann Beech (formerly Hardy, nee Lees) my husband’s 2 x g.grandmother died at 152 Denton Lane, Audenshaw, Lancashire in 1894 aged 71.  The cause of her death was Senectus, which I assume is just old age.  Her first husband died when she was 27 with 2 sons, so not surprisingly she re-married to a James Beech within 13 months of the death of her first husband.  She had another 3 children with him before he died only 8 years after their marriage, leaving her a widow for the 2nd time with 5 children, the eldest only 12 years old.  Following the death of her first husband her occupation was shown as a beer seller, but by the time she re-married she was a hat trimmer an occupation she continued until she was about 68 when she became a laundress.  She was buried very speedily at St Stephen’s Parish Church, Audenshaw only one day after her death.
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Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 15 October 13 12:21 BST (UK)
A rather quiet day in my family, so today's BMD is a very distant connection.

Today is the birthday of my 3rd cousin twice removed - Edward William Schofield Verdim was born on this day in 1902.  I have no idea what happened to him so my mission today is to [hatch], match and dispatch him!
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Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 16 October 13 10:16 BST (UK)
Two birthdays today:

A 2nd cousin 1R, Gladys Ella Barham born in 1909 in Camberwell; another daughter of Joshua and Margaret Eliza (nee Marsh). A sister of Margaret and Violet whose birthdays featured recently. Gladys married James Patrick Marsh (not sure if there is a connection to her mother's family) in Camberwell in 1932. Gladys died in Croydon in 1997, outliving James by seventeen years.

A 3x gt.aunt, Margaret Alice Pain, born in Woolwich in 1817;  daughter of John and Elizabeth (not found their marriage yet). She was baptised the following month at St. Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. Margaret never married and after the death of her parents moved in with her married brother William in Luton.  On later census records she is shown as "imbecile" and died in 1898 in Luton. Her death certificate gives dementia as one of the causes.
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Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 16 October 13 11:28 BST (UK)
On 16 October
Sarah Isaac (nee Everit) my 5 x g.grandmother was baptised at St Peter & St Paul Church, Osbournby, Linconshire in 1715

Dorothy Chorley (nee Gardner)my 4 x g.grandmother was buried at St Michael & St Mary’s Church, Egremont, Cumberland in 1837.  She is the one for whom there is no record of her death on the GRO records.

Ann Wane (maiden name not known) my 7 x g.grandmother was buried at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1727, only 5 days after her husband was buried.  I can’t find a marriage or baptism for either of them, so I have no idea how old they were or when they married.  I do know their eldest son was born in 1687, so assuming they were aged about 20 that the time, they would have been about 60 when they died
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Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 17 October 13 10:59 BST (UK)
Born today in 1786 in Holborn, London a 5xgt.aunt Jane Kingsman;  daughter of William (an ivory turner) and Jane (nee Hird).  Jane was baptised in December 1786 at St. Sepulchre, where she was buried in 1790.
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Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 17 October 13 12:16 BST (UK)

On 17 October 
Maria Wright (late Alden, nee Collett) my 2 x g.grandmother was born in Halesworth, Suffolk in 1843.  Technically she wasn’t Maria Wright as there is no marriage for her and my g.grandfather George Wright, and as I have her birth certificate I know she wasn’t aged 61 in 1911  :o (or the wrong age on all the other censuses after her 18th birthday).  George was about 13 years younger than her, so she obviously knocked years of her age to get nearer to his, although she’d been doing it for about 20 years prior to that too.  She didn’t fool him – despite having her last child aged 50 – as when he registered her death he put her correct age.

John Stanton my 9 x g.g.uncle as born in South Somercotes, Lincolnshire in1600

Sarah Benson my 5 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Holme Cultram Abbey Church, Cumberland in 1730.  Sadly only 5 days short of this date in 1736 she was buried at the same church.

Elizabeth Whittaker (neeTomkins ) my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Mary’s, Ruabon, Denbighshire in 1800.  She married in Cheshire in 1821 and died in Lancashire in 1869.
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Post by: LizzieW on Friday 18 October 13 12:12 BST (UK)
On 18 October   
Jeremy Pemberton and Hannah Burrows my 4 x g.grandparents married at St Oswald’s Church, Lower Peover in 1767.  Jeremy was a carpenter and they had 7 children.  In the probate of his will in July 1799 his personal effects were valued at £40 which is worth about £42,700 today using average earnings (or £185,000 using the share of GDP) so I don’t know which unit to use.

Samuel Mutton and Hannah Hisbrook another set of 4 x g.grandparents married at St Mary & St Nicolas Parish Church, Spalding, Lincolnshire in 1784.  I can only find two births for this couple.

Ann Stanton my 9 x g.g.aunt was born in Morton by Bourne, Lincolnshire in 1595

Christopher Haworth my husband’s 2 x g.grandfather died at 48 Exeter Street, Ardwick, Manchester in 1886.  The cause of his death was bowel cancer.

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Post by: genjen on Friday 18 October 13 17:31 BST (UK)
18/10/1676 - my 7 x great-grandmother, Jane Gibson was born in Askrigg.

1862 - Samuel Cant married Sarah Hubbard in Hampstead - 3 x great uncle and aunt.

1892 - James Daniel died in Cruden - 3 x great-grandfather.

And on 18th October 1925 my mum Alma Smith was born in Middlesbrough. Daughter of Thomas Smith and Amelia Alice Smith ( ::) ::)), she had two older half-sisters and three brothers. She married John Shaw Howe on 2nd November 1946, in Middlesbrough. I am the middle of their three daughters, there are six grandchildren, five great-grand children and another due any minute now. Mum died five years ago in May 2008.
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Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 19 October 13 12:53 BST (UK)

On 19 October 
Elizabeth Howard my husband’s 3 x g.g.aunt was born in Liverpool in 1800

Ann Hobson (nee Gaunt) my 3 x g.grandmother was baptised at St John the Baptist Church, Penistone, Yorkshire in 1780.  She married on her 17th birthday, 14 June 1797 and had 12 children, the youngest born 3 years before her death. 

Frances Lockwood my 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Nicholas Church, Cumberworth, Yorkshire in 1823

Joseph Hobson my 3 x g.g.uncle (and brother in law of Ann Hobson (nee Gaunt) above was baptised at All Hallows Church, Almondbury, Yorkshire in 1783

Charles Hobson my 2 x g.g.uncle (and son of Ann Hobson nee Gaunt above) died in Blackpool, Lancashire in 1888.  He had been a grocer, draper, and provision dealer in Denby Dale, Yorkshire until the 1881 census and neither his wife nor daughter worked (well according to the census).  When he died in Blackpool in 1888 the probate of his will classed him as Gentleman, so presumably he’d retired to the seaside.  His personal estate was given as £1163 2s 9d which, using average earnings would be worth about £503,000 today.

Nicholas Smith my 8 x g.grandfather was buried at St Mary’s Parish Church, Dalton in Furness in 1710.  As I haven’t been able to find either a baptism or marriage for Nicholas I have no idea how old he was when he died.  As his eldest son was born in 1673, assuming he was about 25 then, he would have been about 72 when he died.

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Post by: quest40 on Saturday 19 October 13 14:05 BST (UK)
On 19 October 1852 my 4 x great grandfather Samuel Crowsley died in Kempston, Bedfordshire, aged 85.  He married twice, first to Catherine Childs, mother of Sophia, my 3 x great grandmother, and second to Elizabeth Tompkins.
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Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 20 October 13 14:56 BST (UK)
On 20 October 
Charles Cockett and Ann Day my 2 x g.grandparents were married at All Saints Church, Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1840.  They were married less than 4 years and had had 2 children, when Ann died at the birth of their 3rd child from a uterine haemorrhage.  Charles re-married 4 years later and went on to have 5 more children, one of whom died soon after birth.

Edmund Arthur Whittaker my husband’s grandfather was born at 1 Wilton Street, Ashton Road, Denton, Lancashire in 1875.  He married and had 4 children and he was a silk hat finisher.  Although his parents showed his name as Edmund Arthur on census, once married he called himself Arthur Edmund, although he signed his name as Edmund Arthur!!  It was only when my husband’s brother got hold of his birth certificate so that he could register his death that anyone realised that his name wasn’t Arthur Edmund, but the other way round.  Perhaps he felt Arthur was more manly or something.

William Collett my 2 x g.grandfather was baptised at St Peter & St Paul’s Church, Fressingfield, Suffolk in 1793.  He married my 2 x g.grandmother in 1837 and had 9 children with her.  He was aged 44 and she was 19, despite that my 2 x g.grandmother sadly died before her much older husband.  He was a widower for the 2nd time, as the parish records show that when he married in 1817 he was already a widower, meaning he must have been married and widowed before he was 24 and it’s possible that he had a son with the unknown 1st wife. 

Elias Dyke my husband’s 4 x g.grandfather died in Budbrooke, Warwick in 1828 aged 58.  He was married with 6 children although the youngest was 20 at the time of his father’s death.

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Post by: quest40 on Monday 21 October 13 13:40 BST (UK)
On 21 October 1860 my 2 x g.g uncle, Emmanuel Ashwell, married Mary Ann Smith at All Saints, Kempston, Bedfordshire.  He was a gravel contractor, having expanded his grandfather's carting business to include the collection and transportation of gravel from the rivers in Bedfordshire. 
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Post by: LizzieW on Monday 21 October 13 14:19 BST (UK)
On 21 October 
Hector Benson my uncle (my dad’s younger brother) was born in Manchester in 1913

Elizabeth Manton my husband’s 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Holy Trinity Church, Long Itchington, Warwickshire in 1753

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Post by: groom on Monday 21 October 13 19:06 BST (UK)
21st October 1966. Aberfan, when 116 children and 28 adults died.
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Post by: Greensleeves on Monday 21 October 13 20:37 BST (UK)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/october/21/newsid_3194000/3194860.stm

I was going to post the same thing; I can never pass that spot on the road to Cardiff without thinking of that day.
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Post by: groom on Monday 21 October 13 20:47 BST (UK)
I can remember what I was doing - I was home from school as I was ill and spent the whole day watching the news.
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Post by: Greensleeves on Monday 21 October 13 21:46 BST (UK)
The mother of a friend of mine was a spiritualist medium.  On that day she overslept and had a most vivid dream of children overwhlemed by a sea of black mud.  She was wading through the mud to reach the children, and carrying their bodies from the chaos.   Each time she came out carrying the body of a child, she found a group of people standing there with their arms outstretched and she realised that they were spirits who had come to take the children away.

When she woke up, she went downstairs and put the radio on .... and heard about Aberfan.
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Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 22 October 13 01:20 BST (UK)
I'd just got back from taking my eldest two children to playgroup and was in the kitchen when I heard the news on the radio.  I was in floods of tears, at the thought of all those poor parents sending their children to school and then that disaster overcoming them.  I think that was the first time I'd cried about anything.
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Post by: genjen on Tuesday 22 October 13 09:15 BST (UK)
I was twelve and also remember being utterly overwhelmed by the horror of what happened at Aberfan.


My anniversaries for today:

1826, my 2 x great-grandfather, James Bland was baptised in Bedale, North Riding.

1939, his daughter, Sarah Ann Smith ( nee Bland) died in the workhouse in Stockton. My great grandmother and always known to my mum's family as Granny Smith which led me, as a child, to believe that we were somehow related to an apple.

And it's that felon in the family again - in 1891, my 2 x great grandmother, Jane Knight was convicted of theft and packed off to Northallerton Gaol for twelve months.
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Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 22 October 13 12:33 BST (UK)
On 22 October   

William Saunders Collett my 3rd cousin once removed was born in Yoxford, Suffolk in 1898.

John Dameron Collett my 8 x g.g.uncle (and 7 x g.g.uncle of William above) was born in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1579.  Sadly he died just over 3 years later and was buried in St Mary Magdalene Church, Westerfield.

Mary Dunham my 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at All Saints Church, Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1816

Sarah Singleton my 6 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Huddersfield in 1654

Henry Cockett my uncle (my mum’s elder brother) died in a hospice in Blackpool in 1994.  He was 86 and the cause of his death was prostate cancer.

Elisabeth Middleton (nee Benson) my 4 x g.grandmother died in Kirkstanton, Millom, Cumberland in 1851.  She was 70 and the cause of her death was given as Natural Decay.
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Post by: quest40 on Tuesday 22 October 13 17:37 BST (UK)
On 22 October 1908 my first cousin 3 x removed, Mary Conquest, died in Vienna, Genesee, Michigan. USA.  She was born in 1832 in Bedfordshire, daughter of Josiah Conquest and Martha Brampton, and married her cousin James, son of Thomas Conquest, in London in 1852.
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Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 23 October 13 12:03 BST (UK)
Three birthdays today:

A 2x gt.aunt, Susannah Barham, daughter of Francis and Isabella (nee Bailey) born in Finsbury in 1853. I can find her with the family on a couple of census records and then......nothing.  :-\

A 1st cousin 4R, Thomas Ware; son of James and Hannah (nee Allwright), born in 1839 in Burghfield, Berkshire. An agricultural labourer, he married Mary Ann Rapley in 1870, 3 daughters were born (Emily, Ruth and Agnes) and he died in 1875 in Surrey.

A gt.aunt, Helen/Ellen Elizabeth Kingsman in 1906 in Notting Hill;  daughter of John and Annie (nee George).  She was baptised the following month at St. Clement, Notting Hill.  Sadly she died of acute pneumonia aged 7 in 1914. An Inquest was held but the file has not survived; a small article in the local press quoted a neighbour as saying "the parents were respectable people. The child always seemed healthy".
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Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 23 October 13 13:55 BST (UK)
On 23 October   
Edward Allen and Jane Jelle my 6 x g.grandparents were married in All Saints Church, Stamford, Lincolnshire in 1721

Edward Stanton my 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Andrew’s Church, Heckington, Lincolnshire in 1775.  Sadly, he died about 6 weeks later, I assume he was buried at St Andrew’s Church, but I’ve not checked it out.

Kitty Robinson my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Andrew’s Church, Folkingham, Lincolnshire in 1768

Lucy Ann Mumby my g.g.aunt was born in St Mark’s Square, Myton, Hull in 1852.  Sadly she died 2 weeks later from debility, from birth.

Richard Badgshawe my 8 x g.grandfather was buried at St Nicholas’ Church, Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1657
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Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 24 October 13 09:07 BST (UK)
Born today in Islington in 1860 a 1st cousin 3R, James Gandy; son of James and Rebecca (nee Barton). James was baptised the following month at St. Thomas Charterhouse. He married Sarah Townsend at St. Bartholomew, Moor Lane in 1881;  his occupation given as Costermonger (fruit). So far I've found 5 children for the couple; James died in 1900 and I think Sarah died in 1898.....not bought any certs. 
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Post by: sugarbakers on Thursday 24 October 13 10:53 BST (UK)
24 Oct 1918 ... my gt grandfather Charles Henry MAWER died aged 65 at Hull Royal Infirmary.

Son of Charles Mawer, builder and grocer of Holderness Rd, Hull, who had migrated from Lincolnshire as a young man.
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Post by: quest40 on Thursday 24 October 13 12:37 BST (UK)
On 24 October 1844, my great grandmother Sophia Jane Hatch was born at Wedmore, Somerset.  It was difficult to find her birth year, as in every census she gave herself a different age, always younger than her true age!  Her husband was younger than her, so I guess this was the reason! By 1911, when she was widowed, she gave her age correctly!
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Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 24 October 13 15:08 BST (UK)
Quest - My g.gran did the same.  My g.grandfather was 13 years younger, so she knocked anything up to 9 years off her age.  She couldn't go any younger or it would have meant her eldest daughter (from her first - and probably only - marriage) would have been born before she was 16!  He knew her real age though, as he quoted it correctly on her death certificate  ;)
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Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 24 October 13 15:42 BST (UK)
Only marriages today. 
Charles Hardy and Annie Elizabeth Wadsworth my husband’s g.grandparents married at St Peter’s Church, Swinton, Lancashire in 1874.  He was 25 and she was 20.  They had 10 children, 5 of them under the age of 10 when Annie died in 1898 aged 45, possibly due to another pregnancy/miscarriage/stillbirth.  The cause of her death was uterine haemorrhage, Inflammation of the uterus and pneumonia.  Sadly for the family Charles died only 2 years later from bronchitis.  The 3rd daughter was the one who took on the care of the family, her elder two sisters already having married.  Poor Florence didn’t marry until she was 38 and she had seen the rest of her siblings married.

Henry Collett and Ann Bishop my 7 x g.grandparents married in St Margaret’s Church, Rishingle, Suffolk in 1667. They had 3 children, the first two a girl and a boy were possibly twins and a third who became my 6 x g.grandfather.  Despite the fact that Ann was aged 39 at the time of her marriage she was a spinster.  The eldest boy at least died young as following Henry's death, his brother wrote a will naming my 6 x g.grandfather as Henry's eldest son.

Hugh Howard and Sarah Harper my husband’s 3 x g.grandparents married at St Paul’s Church, Liverpool, in 1813, he was 22 and she was 17.  They were married for nearly 40 years when Hugh died aged 62.  Sarah lived for another 17 years before she died aged 73 from Senile Decay.

Thomas Tubbs my 3 x g.grandfather married Ann Dunham at All Saint's Church, Holbeach, Lincolnshire 1830.  He had an illegitimate child (my 2 x g.grandfather) with my 3 x g.grandmother, and then went on to marry a Mary Dunham 5 years later and had 6 more children.  When that wife died aged 38, he married Ann Dunham.  I haven’t found a connection between his two wives, I think the same surname is a coincidence.  He had another 5 children with Ann.
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Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 24 October 13 19:34 BST (UK)
My first cousin twice removed, Arthur Hall Jaffray, was born on 24th October 1882 in Manitoba. He lost his hearing at the age of three; attended some of the early schools for the deaf and Gallaudet University.  He and another deaf student, John Wesley McCandless, were the heroes in a dangerous rescue of a woman from the Potomac River in April 1905. Later he was a leader in the Ontario Association for the Deaf and the Ontario [Deaf] Mission; one of three men who raised the money to build a church for the deaf at 56 Wellesley St, Toronto, dedicated 2nd April 1926.

On 24th October 1887 my great-aunt Margaret Dobbie Jaffray and William Jaffray, another relative of mine and Margaret's cousin, were married. Their farms in Scotland had wonderful names: Wester Barnego in Dunipace and then Over Easter Offerance at Buchlyvie.
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Post by: LizzieW on Friday 25 October 13 15:04 BST (UK)
On 25 October

George Reuben Benson my g.uncle was born at 26 Scarborough St, Newington, Hull in 1892.  His father died 6 months later and his mother when he was 7.  His elder brother took care of him for about 10 months until he joined the army and George was put into Newlands Children's Orphanage, Hull.  He stayed there until 2 months after his 14th birthday, when he left and joined the army.  He stayed in the army as a regular soldier until his death in France in 1917.

Henry Skelton my 6 x g.grandfather was baptised at Holme Cultram Abbey Church, Cumberland in 1719.  I don’t know much about him, apart from the fact he married in 1744 and had 5 children, the youngest born in 1755.  Whether he died after that I haven’t managed to find out yet.

Charles Henry Cockett my g.g.uncle died at 30 Britannia Terrace, Gainsborough in 1925 aged 84.  The cause of his death was senility and myocardial degeneration.  His granddaughter Olive, sent me a photograph of him shortly before her death in 2007.  As I have a photograph of my grandfather, I’m thinking that somewhere between him and Charles, lies a likeness to my g.grandfather, Charles’ brother.

Hannah Gaunt (nee Scholefield) my 3 x g.g.aunt died in Denby Dale, Yorkshire in 1839

Elizabeth Middleton my 3 x g.g.aunt died in Millom, Cumberland in 1827.  She was just 2 months old.

Elisabeth Benson (nee Middleton) my 4 x g.grandmother and mother of Elizabeth above, was buried at Holy Trinity Church, Millom, Cumberland in 1851.

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Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 27 October 13 10:05 GMT (UK)
Two birthdays today:

A gt. aunt , Maria Rachael Barham born in 1867 in London;  daughter of George William and Elizabeth Mary Ann (nee Burgess).Maria was baptised the following month at St.Thomas Charterhouse. She married Alfred Samuel Pollard on Christmas Day 1890 at St. Mark, Old Street. Eight children were born and Maria died in 1927, 5 months after Alfred.  They are buried in Manor Park Cemetery, Newham where their children organised a very grand monument to them (not seen another one like it in this family!).

An uncle, Alfred Ernest Barham, born in 1914 in Shoreditch, London;  son of John Robert and Matilda Alice Eva (nee Pain). He was baptised the following month at St. John the Baptist, Hoxton. He married Ada Beatrice Reed in Shoreditch in 1934; two children were born and Alfred died in 1992.
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Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 27 October 13 13:09 GMT (UK)
On 26 October 
William Benson my 3 x g.grandfather was baptised at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1782.  He married in 1816 aged 34, his wife was 24 and apparently had 8 children, including the 7th who was my 2 x g.grandfather.  However, for various reasons, I think children number 7 and 8 were actually sons of their eldest daughter, who died in 1837 just 2 months after the birth of child number 8.  If this is correct then, of course, it makes William Benson and his wife, my 4 x g.grandparents not 3 times.  ???

Selina Benson my g.aunt died at Hull Workhouse, 188 Anlaby Road, Hull in 1903.  She was only 13 and the cause of her death was cardiac dropsy (congestive heart failure).  As her parents were already deceased, but she had older siblings who didn’t live at the workhouse, I assume she died in the workhouse hospital.

Thomas Hobson my 3 x g.grandfather died in Denby Yorkshire in 1844.  He was 69 and the cause of his death was given as “Pain the breast 3 days, terminating suddenly”.   There was no medical input into the cause of death which was registered by his youngest son who was only 21 and present at the death.  My guess is that he died of a heart attack.  His occupation was dyer.

Title: Re: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: quest40 on Sunday 27 October 13 13:38 GMT (UK)
On 27 October 1860 my great aunt, Ellen Elizabeth Marshall, was born at Lewisham, Kent.  She was the eldest daughter of Robert Marshall and Mary Ann Baker.  In 1886 she married Edmund Charles Beton Webb in Clerkenwell.  He was a seaman and they moved to Scotland where they had three children.  Sadly, in 1893 Ellen died, along with her 3 year old daughter Ellen and baby son Edmund Charles.

On this day fifty years after her aunt's birth, my dear mother was born.
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Post by: clayton bradley on Sunday 27 October 13 22:24 GMT (UK)
John Broadley married Alice Haworth 27 oct 1743 at St James, Altham, Lancashire. John was a Catholic and Alice an Anglican but their children were brought up Catholic. cb
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Post by: nanny jan on Monday 28 October 13 08:26 GMT (UK)
Born today in 1901 in Plaistow a 1st cousin 2R, Rosalind Olive Wise;  daughter of Walter and Alice Matilda (nee Rainer).  Rosalind married William Clark in Rochford in 1923, 4 children were born and Rosalind died in 1979 in Leicestershire.
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Post by: Wiggy on Monday 28 October 13 20:23 GMT (UK)
Today the 29th October, 2013 is the 100th anniversary of my grandparents marriage, in Coburg Victoria, Australia.
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Post by: sugarbakers on Tuesday 29 October 13 18:34 GMT (UK)
29 Nov 1795 ... Elizabeth Moore, born to Thomas Moore & his wife Sarah Watts at Bugbrooke, Northamptonshire (from my wife's tree).
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Post by: quest40 on Tuesday 29 October 13 19:11 GMT (UK)
On 29 October 1841 my 2 x great grandparents, Catherine Ashwell and William Crowsley, were married at Elstow, Bedfordshire.  They were related in some degree, as Catherine's mother was a Crowsley.  In 1841, before her marriage, Catherine worked as a laundry maid at the Bedford County lunatic asylum.
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Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 30 October 13 08:16 GMT (UK)
Born today in Newington, Surrey in 1877 a 1st cousin 2R, Elizabeth Barham;  daughter of Francis James and Eliza (nee Storey). The family moved to Cheltenham and in 1897 Elizabeth married John Lee; a railway porter.  I've found 5 sons for them, so far, and Elizabeth died in 1960 in Cheltenham.
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Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 30 October 13 10:23 GMT (UK)
Haven't been able to do these for 3 days, so I'm catching up.

On 28 Oct
Harry Dawson my husband’s uncle was born at 11 Wardlow Street, Beswick, Manchester in 1896.  Strangely until I started the family research my husband knew nothing about this man, even though he married and had children and didn’t die until 1965.  He knew (as I did) his mother’s 3 sisters, so I have no idea what happened for them to disown their brother.

Hugh Howard my husband’s 3 x g.grandfather was born in Liverpool in 1790

Sarah Elizabeth Cass (nee Mumby) my g.g.aunt died at 14 Alfred Street, Hull in 1865 aged 21.  She left her husband and 3 children.  The cause of her death was gastric fever 6 weeks, uncontrollable vomiting 4 weeks.  Her children were put into a workhouse as her husband was charged with neglecting to support his children and sent to prison for 21 days.  A couple of years later he was back in prison for fraud, his bad behaviour continued throughout his life.

Joseph Bayldon my 5 x g.grandfather was buried at All Hallows Church, Almondbury, Yorkshire in 1781.  He was married and had 10 children, but I’ve been unable to find out his wife’s name so far.

On 29 Oct
Daniel Midwood and Mary Walker my 6 x g.grandparents married at St Mary’s Church, Mirfield, Yorkshire in 1703.

Daniel Baxter my 6 x g.grandfather was buried at St Andrew’s Church, Heckington, Lincolnshire in 1778

Charlotte Cocket my 2 x g.g.aunt was buried at All Saints Church, Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1806.  She was about a year old.  She was the first illegitimate child of my 3 x g.grandmother and a bastardy bond was made on 19 August 1805 for her.  My 3 x g.grandmother went on to have another child in 1811, also illegitimate and with a different father.  That child became my 2 x g.grandfather.

On 30 Oct 
Philologus Collett my 8 x g.grandfather was baptised in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1586 He died on 7 November 1646 and his will was proved on 7 March 1647.  The burial record of his eldest daughter who died 16 years later, gave his occupation as a Woollen Draper.

Thomas Hobson my 3 x g.grandfather was buried at St John the Evangelist Church, Denby, Yorkshire in 1844


Title: Re: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Wednesday 30 October 13 23:41 GMT (UK)
This is a day late but I'm sure you'll forgive me. I only heard at eleven o'clock last night, just as I was going to bed and then I had to have a little celebratory drink so this thread was the last thing on my over-excited mind.

At 9.54pm on Tuesday 29th October, 2013, my beautiful grand-daughter was born, weighing in at 6lbs 15ozs and sporting a very fine head of white blonde hair. As yet she has no name.

Baby, parents and older brother all doing well.  :D :D :D
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Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 31 October 13 00:27 GMT (UK)
Hooray and congratulations and a grand-daughter

Lovely news genjen!        :D
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Post by: groom on Thursday 31 October 13 00:29 GMT (UK)
Just seen this Jen - congratulations. You must be very excited and happy.
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Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 31 October 13 09:02 GMT (UK)

Congratulations Jen!  :) Another little twig for the tree.
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Post by: genjen on Thursday 31 October 13 09:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone. :D

Everything is splendid and we are all delighted to have a new girl baby in the family. I won't go off topic on here with details but hopefully will find time to do the proud nana boasting somewhere else! ;D ;D
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Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 31 October 13 09:30 GMT (UK)
My great-aunt Edith Rosecleer Barrett died on 31st October 1963, aged 88. I don't remember her, although I think we visited her when I was a boy. She left a small amount of money and no Will; the research done into the family tree by the solicitors has been a real help to me in establishing the facts about my Barrett ancestry. I have yet to establish the origin of her middle name - all her nine siblings had names that had real family meaning, so there is a mystery to be unravelled. And the amount of money when divided up was enough to buy what my father called the "country seat" - a garden bench.
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Post by: Seoras on Thursday 31 October 13 17:11 GMT (UK)
Margaret White, my 3xG grandfather's second wife died in 1893. I don't think it was a happy marriage. They married in 1864 and were living apart by 1871. She was also economical with the truth when it came to her age, knocking a full 10 years off for her marriage cert.
Title: Re: On This Day In October - Our Ancestral BMDs
Post by: genjen on Thursday 31 October 13 20:44 GMT (UK)
It's the end of October which means we have been running these ancestral anniversary threads for a full year. Some of you joined in when I started the November thread last year, others have come along during the course of the year.
The question is whether or not we want to continue and if so, how? I believe all twelve threads are still active so we could just revive them month by month and add new BMDs to those which we have already posted.

What do people think and what would B-Bob prefer us to do?
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Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 31 October 13 21:02 GMT (UK)
I quite like the idea of reviving the previous threads, that way we can see which BMDs we've added since the beginning.

Lizzie