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Title: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Thursday 16 June 05 08:42 BST (UK)
My great grandfather was David Rosie born in 1853.He marries a Jessie Simpson.I believe his father was Alexander Rosie.Any info ?
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Monday 20 June 05 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi bwlboy,

I had a look on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for you as I had a few credits spare and this is what I found:

David Rosie b. 01/01/1853 Wick, Caithness Father: Alexander Rosie, Mother: Elizabeth Murray

The website is extremely useful and I suggest you have a good look there. You should be able to find the others you asked about as well

Good luck with the search :)

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Tuesday 21 June 05 06:57 BST (UK)
Thank you very much.Im going up to caithness for holidays to my cousin on 25th july.So i will be going in to wick and thurso archives.The trouble with caithness research is there are about a dozen surnames who all have the same christian names.There are lots of alexander  rosies etc.Also they tend to call people by different names than the registered one.My mother and here 2 sisters are from wick and neither of them are known by their registered  christian.This seems to be rife.My one grandfather was donald banks but was called Dannie. Typical.Anyway dioch yn fawr,thank you very much in welsh.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Wednesday 22 June 05 14:27 BST (UK)
I am jealous - a fair chunk of mt research is in Caithness too - but I am not going to be able to get there till next year or the year after

Good luck  ;)

Jenny

P.S The welsh was lovely - I have ancestors there too - are you Welsh?
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Wednesday 22 June 05 15:13 BST (UK)
My mothers side are all from Caithness and my fathers all from Wales.I live in Ynysybwl which is 12 miles north of Cardiff and 3 miles north of Pontypridd.My cousin lives in Bower  halfway between Wick and Thurso.Which part are yours from?
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Thursday 23 June 05 01:46 BST (UK)
My Great grandmother was born in Cardiff and her brother in Newport but the rest of the family were born in Bristol. Her father was a mariner and they moved around a fair bit. I had thought that was my only Welsh link but I have just found that her grandmother was born in Chepstow - so I might have more Welsh in me than I once thought  ;)

As for my Caithness ancestors - well I have some in Latheron, Berridale, Wick, Watten and Thurso.... so far anyway  :)

I am still working on both these lines

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Thursday 23 June 05 07:20 BST (UK)
My grandfather,mother and sister were born in Wick.Is that list under your message a list of surnames in your tree? My first cousins son had a baby girl in wick yesterday.Not him his wife obviously.Another Rosie.My eldest daughter,Sian lives and works in Cardiff.My caithness ancestors were mainly from Canisbay and Stroma,but some moved to wick.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Thursday 23 June 05 11:54 BST (UK)
Yes it is a bit of a list of my direct ancestors surnames - it is not all of them as I couldn't fit them in  ;)

Congratulations on your new second cousin! If you are anything like me you will have already added them to the family tree  ;D

It just keeps growing doesn't it!

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Thursday 23 June 05 12:49 BST (UK)
My cousin who im going to stay with was Barrett.My mothers sister who lives in Thurso is Barrett.Lots of welsh names in your list ie-Walters,Capel,James,Edwards,Johns,Phillips,Welsh and Roberts.
My fathers side are all welsh-Rees,Williams,
My mothers are all scottish-Banks,Murray,Rosie,Simpson,Manson
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Thursday 23 June 05 13:04 BST (UK)
My only Welsh ones are Walters, and Bowden so far

My Caithness ones are Rutherford, Nicoll, Sutherland, Tait, Williamson, Sandison  :)

maybe I just haven't gotten far enough back on the others yet - why do you say Capel is Welsh?
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Thursday 23 June 05 15:28 BST (UK)
All the other ones are pure welsh surnames.The only one im not sure is capel .However it is the welsh word for chapel and when welsh were given names by english in the forced union they had to make them up .So had fathers christian name or name of place.So capel could easily be.A former colleague of mine in work is called Bowden.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Sunday 26 June 05 10:03 BST (UK)
Interesting.... I'll have to keep that in mind when I am doing my researching. So far my Capel's are in Somerset but that is not all that far from Wales  ;)

This just goes to show how little I know about Welsh research - I didn't even know the surname naming pattern!

Thanks again  :)
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Sunday 26 June 05 13:48 BST (UK)
Edward, robert ,walter, james, and phillip were the names of the fathers of your ancestor who adopted them as surnames as english tax inspectors came to Wales to register people.We had no surnames.The inspectors were english speaking and often spelt them in correctly.Hence my names was spelt Rees not Rhys,Ioan became jones,Dafydd davies etc.My daughter want to spelt it the proper way and i hope she does.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Monday 04 July 05 03:00 BST (UK)
I hope she does too :)

Thanks for all this information about the surname origins - I find it fascinating and hopefully it will help me with my searching too  ;)

Good luck with yours

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Monday 04 July 05 07:21 BST (UK)
I hope thats not 3 in the morning you are posting? You are up earlier than me. Is there anyone who you want me to look up information about.If you give me some dates and names if will try if i get the chance.Only trouble is im up there for a week and you know what scottish hospitality is like.You spend all the time visiting and having a great time and it flies by.Hope to get time to do my own research. Wick and thurso library have a lot of info on micro film so im bound to go to one of them at least once.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Tuesday 05 July 05 09:03 BST (UK)
Ha Ha  ;D It probably is for you!

I am in Australia so it is a bit more reasonable for me here..

I must agree with you about Scottish hospitality so I will look for my own people when I get there next year and leave you to find yours  ;)

Thanks for the offer though

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Sunday 17 July 05 06:57 BST (UK)
Didnt realise  you were living in OZ. Boiling hot here for over a week.Off to caithness a week tomorrow. Have to practice drinking the water of life this week.
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: JenClark on Sunday 17 July 05 11:10 BST (UK)
Good luck with that - I think I will have to start sampling some scotch whiskey too before I visit as I am normally a rum girl  ;)

Have fun on your trip

Jenny
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: newlabeluk on Wednesday 07 September 05 21:19 BST (UK)
i have a Margaret Rosie born on Stroma in 1777 married James Bremner in Wick 18/12/1801
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bwlboy on Monday 12 September 05 19:40 BST (UK)
my david rosie was born in1796.his father was alexander rosie and his father david rosie and his father alexander rosie born 1765,married to charlotte manson i believe.Confusing all these names repeated.I have ancestors from stroma the simpsons and also banks from dunnet
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: Kaiser1 on Monday 05 June 06 16:10 BST (UK)
I am David Rosie,
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: angellize69 on Tuesday 27 June 06 16:00 BST (UK)
Please may i join this conversation? I have read your messages with interest as i have been trying to solve my own rosie riddle this week.
My gr gr gr grandfather james dilworth was married to joan sutherland from wick.I think joans parents were john sutherland and christian rosie.
Christians parents being alexander rosie and charlotte manson.
But i was told yesterday that i am wrong and that christian married a  john mckay sinclair and her mother was christina manson.
Can anyone help me solve this puzzle?
Thanks alot
Ally
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: prophetess on Friday 13 April 07 21:40 BST (UK)
Hi I have a fair sized data base that i was sent by a chap who done the rosies of caithness, I have also Rosies, in my tree, oldest in 1796 Murdoch Rosie m to
Margaret Reid
Would gladly check out what i have for anyone looking for Rosies in Caithness
Sybil
Title: Re: david rosie
Post by: bapkas on Thursday 09 February 12 23:20 GMT (UK)
Hi bwlboy
            we are distant relatives. as i have David Rosie & Charlotte Miller in my tree.
    Thier son John Rosie was my 2xg grandfather, 
         i havn't been opn this site for a while so only just found you'r messages.
                      regard's
                                 Barbara.