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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Briar Rosie on Monday 14 October 13 03:19 BST (UK)
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Robert COCK arrived in SA with his wife and family in 1836. By 1841 he was leasing land at Balhannah in the Adelaide hills alongside a William & Alexander Cock. Were they related? Robert was nominated 'grantee' on his brother William's will in 1854 in Adelaide. There are many references to Robert Cock being born 25 May 1801 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland but I suspect they all devolve to the one source. I have searched both Family Search and Scotlandspeople and can find no trace of any of these family members in the Fife BMD records. William Owen and his wife Christina Cock arrived in Adelaide on the Rajasthan in 1838 from Fife. William Owen chartered ships and traded between Adelaide and Mauritius, a William Cock was often captain on these voyages and is identified as his brother-in-law. William Owen and Christina had 3 daughters the last of whom was named Christina Williamson Owen. Help! I would like to establish what relationship existed between these people. Robert Cocks son stood as a member for parliament in Victoria and William Owen in South Australia.
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Welcome to rootschat. :)
Robert COCK arrived in SA with his wife and family in 1836.
You have headed the topic
John COCK arrived Adelaide, SA on Buffalo 1836 ? siblings.
Who are you searching for...Robert or John.
Cando
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Thanks for picking that up Cando. Robert Cock is the man I'm after. Particularly if he has a relationship to Christina, married to William Owen. There is quite a lot of information on both their lives after arrival in Adelaide but I'm stumped with connecting them back to Fife, Scotland. Too early for them to have been listed in any Scottish census i'm afraid.
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Robert's life is well documented on various sources and I would suggest broadening your search for his baptism. Dinn, Fife may have been their place of residence taken from the emigration documents, and may not have been his place of birth.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1836Buffalo.htm
Cando
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Now after some more searching.
His obituary says native of Fife. Wouldn't the information for an obituary have come from his family?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0whm/
Cando
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You would think so Cando. I have searched for Robert, William, Alexander and Christina Cock (Cocks, Cox, & Coxs) not just under Fife but all of Scotland. No luck. Family search seems to indicate the records for 1800 - 1825 for Fyfe are complete (if the were indeed christened). I picked up a whisper of his mother's MS being Williamson which is why I included the name of Christina's daughter in my original post. Unfortunately I didn't make a note of that source at the time - silly me!
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Robert and Catherine's dau Catherine COCK was aged 1 year on the BUFFALO's manifest.
COCK Catherine
Baptism 19 Jun 1835 Abdie, Fife, Scotland
Born 08 May 1835
Father Robert COCK Mother Catherine CHRISTIE
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11400-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1040144
Cando
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BISA mentions that Robert's father was James. I have also been frustrated by a number of missing parish records for my ancestors in Scotland but they were not from Fife.
As you mention, they may not have been baptised.
I notice that Robert and Catherine had dau Ann baptised at Portland, Vic in 1853 but the parish record will not give any further info.
Cando
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Looking at the ages of the children I wonder if this was possibly a second marriage for Robert.
James baptism is on familysearch and there is a six year gap between dau Nancy and James.
COCK Robert
CHRISTIE Catherine
28 May 1832 Abdie,Fife,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11400-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1040144
Cando
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Getting to the grasping at straws stage now ::) However there is no Mary among Robt's chn.
COCK Robert
Baptism Dec 1802 Dumbarton, Dumbarton, Scot
Birth 19 Dec 1802
Father James COCK Mother Mary CAIN
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC11496-5
System OriginScotland-ODM
GS Film number1041985
Cando
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Curiouser and curiouser. Ann Cock was certainly baptised 1853 in Portland, Victoria but unfortunately she was born in South Australia 10 Dec 1846 according to the baptismal record so she doesn't have all the delicious details I was expecting, never mind. I'll keep working on it.
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I notice that Robert and Catherine had dau Ann baptised at Portland, Vic in 1853 but the parish record will not give any further info.
Cando
Did you download the record from Vic BDM?
If so, you would not find any parental details. Now if it had been a birth registration that would have been a wonderful source of info although from Portland in 1853 may have had limited info anyway...before civil reg.
Cando
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Hi Briar Rosie
I am a direct descendant of Robert Cock 1801. I live in Australia and I can forward the family tree document sent to me by a cousin. I have a lot of information on grandad.
you can email me at (*) and I will reply.
Kind regards Colleen
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