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Title: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: De Tails on Wednesday 30 October 13 02:55 GMT (UK)
Hello again - a relative Newbie question if I may.

I have the reference for the 1851 Census in Yaxley (HO 107 1795), and have tracked down the Registration District (Registration District: 218. HARTISMERE Registration Sub-District: 3 Eye ff.406-End Parish: Yaxley). What I am after is how to find out the address.

Somewhere in the 33 Suffolk chat pages I found the answer, but I didn't make a note of it  :-[

It seems to me someone provided a link which would let you find either 1) the first page of the Schedule where the Enumerator wrote all addresses to be covered, and/or 2) a listing of the addresses by Reference number.

Many thanks -
Sue

Surnames of Interest: Leader/Leeder and Aldrich/Aldrige/Aldridge
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 30 October 13 08:38 GMT (UK)
If it was a rural area, especially in the early censuses, why would there need to be an address?
Simply knowing the name of the village or town was sufficient.

Do you have the full census reference?
Class (we know that is HO107)
Piece (and we know that is 1795)
Folio?
Page?

And how about a name? Makes for easier searching! ;D
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: De Tails on Wednesday 30 October 13 09:24 GMT (UK)
Hi KGarrad

Thank you for your prompt response. I was working from the theory that the government of the day might want more than, oh yes, them down the road! LOL

I am referencing from a copy of the Schedule itself. Unfortunately, I didn't save the referring page.  :-[

On the Schedule the page number is 29, and the first column (No. of Householder's Schedule) is 102. All location details are blank and crossed out except "Parish: Yaxley".

Re: the names - at this stage I'm more interested in learning how to track down the addresses myself rather than impose on the list-members' goodwill. (I'd kind of like to have some "credit in the bank" if/when I hit a brick wall!!) 8-)
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 30 October 13 10:23 GMT (UK)
As I said, addresses were fairly meaningless - until the postal system got well under way!

The reason I asked for a name is so that I can take a look myself - usually you can find some sort of address on the previous pages?

However, in my experience, small towns and villages simply didn't bother with an address.
It would simply be Joe Bloggs, Yaxley.

Please remember not to apply modern standards to life in the 19th Century ;D
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: Keziah2 on Wednesday 30 October 13 15:06 GMT (UK)
Yaxley is still a relatively small village today - not many roads & certainly not that many houses c1851.

Have a look at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html  it will give you some idea of the village c1886.  Most of the houses were almost certainly clustered around the parish church with various farms dotted around the parish.

K
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 30 October 13 17:44 GMT (UK)
   Would it be this family?

William Aldrich    44
Mary Aldrich    39
Robert Aldrich    18
Thomas Aldrich    16
Emanuel Aldrich    14
Ethelinda Aldrich    11
John Aldrich    9
Phoebe Aldrich    7
William Aldrich    4
Allice Aldrich    1

Ref numbers needed are HO107/1795   FOLIO 126 Page 29
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 30 October 13 17:47 GMT (UK)
Or these ,mistranscribed as Luder,should be LEADER/LEEDER.

William Luder    43
Jane Luder    39
Joshua Luder    20
Henry Luder    13
Isabella Luder    11
Thomas Luder    9
Robert Luder    6
Shadrack Luder    2

HO107  Piece  1795  Folio  613  Page  29

No actual address given ,as others have said there weren't many people living in Yaxley back then
   

 
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 30 October 13 19:03 GMT (UK)
I had promised to look once I got home from work - but you beat me to it Carol! ;D

Well done! ;D
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 30 October 13 19:21 GMT (UK)
Sometimes you can go back to page one,or even the page before- it might say eg Church Cottage or a certain pub and then you'll have a rough idea that they weren't far from there.

You can click on the enumerators notes (Click on 9b at the top of the census image page,Suffolk,then Yaxley then 9b) which often tells you which way he walked round the village,High Street then Church Road etc for example.

The first page (2) says The Red Lion Inn.You can walking page by page from there.

But as we've said,in a small town all they needed was to say Bill Leeder at so and so farm and they all knew who was being talked about.
Title: Re: Finding Address from Census Reference
Post by: De Tails on Thursday 31 October 13 07:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you all!  :)

Keziah2 - thank you for the map link. I can see the various farms labelled on this - only had the 'Tudor Manor' from other references!

Carol - thanks for the look ups. Yes, it's the mis-transcribed (IMO2!) 'Luders' I was referring to. It was the 'clicking on the link' in the second part of your reply which I was looking for with my original question. Unfortunately, I gathered my census data during a brief membership of a commercial site, so don't have the access to click live links. However, I'm happy to take your local knowledge that a street address was unlikely/not needed in so small a place. 8-)

Kevin - thanks for being willing!

Best -
Sue