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Title: Hosegood family
Post by: kathy mason on Monday 04 November 13 16:33 GMT (UK)
Stuck in a circle trying to trace the Hosegood family. My grandmother was Alice Hosegood born Aug 31, 1896 died Dec 2004. She had a brother Charles HG and Percy and Florence ( who died in infancy). James Hosegood, (Alices father) married Emily Baker and they lived in Godalming, Surrey. James died when Alice was born (1896) and Emily married Alfred Ayling. That is all the firm information I know. When I try to go back I get stuck and I don't feel I have the right tree. I finally ended up deleting all the info from ancestry.ca on this side of the family to try and start over but I am still no farther ahead. Wondering if anyone can help. James Hosegood and Emily Baker marriage certificate lists James as a butcher residence at time of marriage Bell St Regiate, fathers name James Hosegood, occupation farmer. Emily from Somers Road Reigate, father William Baker, tradesman. Married S Marks church, Reigate, Surrey Dec 26, 1885.
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 04 November 13 16:47 GMT (UK)
1891 census - RG12/562 f62 p24  living Busbridge, Godalming, Surrey

James Hosegood   31 born St Decumans, Somerset
Emily Hosegood   33 born Ledbury, Herefordshire
Charles H J Hosegood   4 born Reigate. Surrey
Percy W A Hosegood   2 born Reigate, Surrey
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 November 13 20:47 GMT (UK)
seems your Grandmother had the middle name of Mary???

Baptism
1 Nov 1896
Busbridge St John
Alice mary Hosegood
parents James (deceased) & Emily
fathers occ Butcher

Suz
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 08:10 GMT (UK)
In 1881 James is in a lodging house in High Street, Reigate, Surrey  RG11/799 f114 p7
James Hosegood - Lodger - Single-19-occ Butcher bn Bridgwater, Somerset

   
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 08:21 GMT (UK)
I think that this may be his father in 1881 (only because of the location, yet to be proved)
Dunsford Farm, Chertsey Lane (Woodham) Addlestone, Surrey
RG11/768 f68 p   34

all Born Somerset
James Hosegood   49 Farmer
George Hosegood   17
Emily Hosegood   15
Martha Hosegood   14
Jesse Hosegood   11
Tom Hosegood   9
Arthur Hosegood   6
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 08:34 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10/ 2383 f30 p3      Troak's Farm, Enmore, Somerset

James Hosgood    38   Farmer bn St Decumans Somerset      
Mary                    27    bn Huish champ flower Somerset      
James   Son     9   bn St Decumans Somerset   
George   Son     8   bn St Decumans Somerset   
Emily   Dtr     7    bn St Decuman Somerset      
Martha   Dtr     6    bn St Decuman Somerset      
Jesse   Son     2   bn    Milverton    
Tom           Son     2 wks bn Enmore, Somerset      
Jane Langdon   Visitor  23 bn Huish champ flower Somerset      
Emily Langdon   Visitor   2         Somerset   
Maria Pring   Servant    19      Somerset   
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 08:41 GMT (UK)
James mothers death registration
Deaths Dec 1879
Hosegood    Mary   age  46   
Reigate    2a   96

It looks as though the family were living in Reigate prior to moving to Chertsey though the age does not tie in with census
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 09:11 GMT (UK)
1861 St Decumans, Somerset
RG9/1603 f73 p15
John Hosegood   72 bn Kingsbrompton, Somerset
Mary Hosegood   63 bn Bampton, Devon
James Hosegood 29 bn St Decumans
Obed Hosegood   24 bn St Decumans
Mary Hill   22 Niece bn Huish Champflower
Charlotte Stevens   16 servt
George Sully   14 servt

Possible marriage
March qtr 1862   
Griffiths    John       
Hill    Mary       
Hosegood    James       
Stone    Ann       
Williton    5c   505   


Marys age on this census is a better match for the Reigate death
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: kathy mason on Tuesday 05 November 13 12:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much Rosie 99. I was kind of favoring the John and Mary line but then it got kinda confusing :) with Mary Hill the niece. The family living in Reugate makes sense since that was the address on the marriage certificate. I will go back and try to rebuild it with this line and see where it takes me. Somewhere along the line I had found Tom (1872) Hosegoods daughter living with a James Hosegood and that was when I tried to revalidate and correct some things and it just got to be a big mess. So I deleted everything and started over. But this is pretty much what made sense to me. The dates are a bit wonky but I'll push thru. On both my father ( deceased) and mothers side I have my mother and her brother left....going back in this line there was one guy who had 25 kids by 3 women...how is it I have no family haha. I appreciate the help...still in the learning process. Got help finding my Dad's family. His grandmother was in and out of workhouses in Edmonton and I live in Nova Scotia so I had no idea how that system worked. So sad but so very interesting!!! And I had a lot of success.
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 05 November 13 16:22 GMT (UK)
I am glad we were both looking at the same thing ;)

This looks like James or a member of his family before he moved to Surrey.

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Wednesday, April 8, 1868; Issue 5314.

Timwood Farm, St Decumans, Somerset
To be let by tender from Michaelmas next all that Messuage tenement & farm called Timwood Farm compromising a farm house with suitable outbuildings 83a. 1r. 2p (more or less) of arable, meadow pasture & orchard land now and for several years past in the occupation of Mr James Hosegood.
The estate is situate in a detached part of the parish of St Decumans and distant about 5 miles from Williton, 6 miles from Wiveliscombe and close to the Comberrow station on the West Somerset Mineral Railway. It will be let Tithe free.
For viewing the above apply to Mr Hosegood at the farm and for furthewr particulars to
Mr Collins, Orchard Wyndham, Taunton to whom tenders in writing are to be sent on or before the 11th day of April next.
Orchard Wyndham 20th March 1868
Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: Tishnz on Monday 08 June 20 03:55 BST (UK)
Timwood was my family's home once upon a time.

My 2 x great grandfather Obed Hosegood (1836-1910) came from there when he and the Devon girl he married, Sarah Baker of Bampton, emigrated to New Zealand in 1864 or early 1865.

Obed was the third son of the eldest son so I guess wasn't going to inherit the farm and instead took ship downunder with his wife and infant daughter. Sarah died along with the baby giving birth to their 5th child and only son, in October 1871. She was not quite 31.

There is a tree for this line alone at

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/169496734/family/familyview

Title: Re: Hosegood family
Post by: Tishnz on Monday 08 June 20 06:44 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Rosie 99. I was kind of favoring the John and Mary line but then it got kinda confusing :) with Mary Hill the niece. The family living in Reugate makes sense since that was the address on the marriage certificate. I will go back and try to rebuild it with this line and see where it takes me. Somewhere along the line I had found Tom (1872) Hosegoods daughter living with a James Hosegood and that was when I tried to revalidate and correct some things and it just got to be a big mess. So I deleted everything and started over. But this is pretty much what made sense to me. The dates are a bit wonky but I'll push thru. On both my father ( deceased) and mothers side I have my mother and her brother left....going back in this line there was one guy who had 25 kids by 3 women...how is it I have no family haha. I appreciate the help...still in the learning process. Got help finding my Dad's family. His grandmother was in and out of workhouses in Edmonton and I live in Nova Scotia so I had no idea how that system worked. So sad but so very interesting!!! And I had a lot of success.

This is indeed the same family in my previous post and yes, and this James b 1831 who married Mary Hill is the older brother of my Obed and should have been inheriting the Timwood farm. He was still referred to as married on the 1881 census, but I do think the Mary burial in Reigate is correct. James was buried at Wiveliscombe in June 1913.

I don't know what went wrong to send James and the whole family so far from their historical region to work as a farmer in Chertsey but most appear to have all made it back to Somerset at some time.

Your Alice Mary is not just in my Tree, but I have a DNA match through her daughter Kathleen Emily Stobie and husband Percival Buzza to her daugther.