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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: gingerbit on Sunday 10 November 13 13:49 GMT (UK)
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I would be very grateul if someone has access to Census or other records and could give me clarity on the parents of William Oliver, married in 1868 to Margaret Hunter Pitt in Riccarton Ayrshire.
From several years ago I have a source from LDS giving his parents as John Oliver and Mary Borland. Now I have come across other sources quoting Family search records with John Oliver and Janet Raeside as parents.
I have two birthdates - 13.11.1842 and 8.6.1842. Both name Margaret Hunter Pitt as the wife.
I also have two dates for death - 1909 and 1916.
Help please ::) ::) ::)
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If you had viewed the marriage certificate on Scotlands People you could have easily established who his parents were - both the instances you give are incorrect.
I had a few credits left and according to his marriage certificate he was 21, wife was only 17, and looks like both their parents witnessed the wedding. Williams' parents are shown as Robert Oliver, Coal Miner, and Janet Reside.
Checking on familysearch - Robert Oliver and Janet Reside married 26/12/1834 Riccarton, Ayr and William b.8/6/1846, bp.28/6/1846 Riccarton. An 1846 birthdate fits with his age at marriage.
Annette
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Using the information provided by Annette you can search the transcriptions at http://www.freecen.org.uk/ for the 1841 & 1851 Census in Ayrshire.
ev
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From where I live a search on Scotland's People costs more than 15 x the cost to researchers in the UK so I am very appreciative of any help I can get. Thank you both for your help and information.
Gingerbit
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Hi
A number of trees on Anc*y have William b 1842 emigrating to Chicago and marrying a Lucy Hicks there.
The census entries I can see for a William Oliver married to Margaret in Riccarton all give year of birth as 1847 which does seem to sit better with the 1846 birth.
William
William
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SP has a Margaret Hunter Oliver(other surname Pitt) death 1917 Kilmarnock Ayr , born c1850.
ev
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Millmoor and Ev,
Thank you for your replies. I think the William who went to America may be a cousin of the one in my tree, so far I have not come across him. And Ev, thank you for confirming details for Margaret Hunter Pitt. I am very fortunate to have a copy of the Kilmarnock Standard dated 28.12.1918. There is a death notice for a member of another branch of the family in this paper and only recently when starting more searching into the Oliver surname did I give the paper another read and found three Oliver surnames in the 'In Memoriam' section. One of them being Margaret Hunter Pitt d. 1917 and also for William Oliver d. 1916. The other mention was for William H. Oliver who died in France in 1916. He was a son of William and Margaret.
Gingerbit
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William Oliver born in November 1842 was married to Lucy Hicks. They were my 3 times great grandparents. He passed away in December 1909 and immigrated to the USA from Scotland in 1857. His parents were John Oliver and Mary Borland. Hope this helps.
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From where I live a search on Scotland's People costs more than 15 x the cost to researchers in the UK
How do you make that out? You pay exactly the same for credits wherever you are in the world. £7 for 30 credits, which (if you get your search right) lets you view 5 certificates or census records. Cost per certificate therefore £1.40.
An absolute bargain compared with the sums extorted for certificates in Australia and New Zealand, and even with the £9.25 per certificate currently charged in England and Wales.
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Absolutely right! £7 for 30 credits is a bargain compared to other countries; however, the other person is paying £7 plus whatever the currency exchange rate of the day is – that extra fee, whatever it may be, is additional to the £7 and could be a burden depending on ones financial circumstances.
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Indeed. But even allowing for unfavourable exchange rates and a transaction fee (one of my credit cards currently charges me 2.75% for a foreign transaction; the other does not charge any fee for foreign currency transactions) it is not going to make the cost 15 times what you or I would pay.
Perhaps South Africa is different, but I still cannot imagine that they could charge 15 times the value of the original.
(Digression - Has anyone ever tried to get a certificate from South Africa? How does one go about it and what do they cost?)
Maybe Gingerbit has been using one of these services that charges you through the nose for services you don't need, like the companies that charge people for getting them an EHIC* or English and Welsh certificates? I can imagine that some con-men might advertise an intermediary service to supply SP credits?
(*For non-European readers, that's a European Health Insurance Card, which is available free of charge to residents of every participating European country and gives access to free emergency medical care in every participating European country. Scammers are cashing in by fooling people into paying them a fee for obtaining an EHIC.)
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Hello StacyP
Thank you so much for the information. It certainly does help to confirm that I have been on the right path with the Oliver family and can add your details in the correct place. Welcome to Rootschat and if I can help with any Oliver information please get in touch.
Gingerbit
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Good points, Forfarian! :)