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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: billbir on Saturday 23 November 13 16:43 GMT (UK)
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My great great great grandfather William Moss was born in 1795 in Adderbury, Oxfordshire, England. I believe that he was married twice, once to a Sarah by which he had two children Caroline b1818 and William:b1820. My guess is, that Sarah died in childbirth in December 1820. William then went on to marry Emma Elfred, who was born in 1805 also in Adderbury. They had nine children, one of which was Martha who became my great great grandmother. I'm trying to establish the surname of Sarah and the marriage dates of both Sarah and Emma.
Any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
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William Moss married a Sarah Charles(of Banbury) @ Daventry NTH. 22 April 1818.
William Moss married Mary Elfred @ St.Mary Mag. Oxford. 27 Nov 1826.
I may be worthwhile to check the PR's for St.Mary Mag. Oxford, to see if he was a widow. ;)
Steve. :)
Taken from OxFHS - Marriage Index - 1538-1837.
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William Moss married a Sarah Charles(of Banbury) @ Daventry NTH. 22 April 1818.
William Moss married Mary Elfred @ St.Mary Mag. Oxford. 27 Nov 1826.
I may be worthwhile to check the PR's for St.Mary Mag. Oxford, to see if he was a widow. ;)
Steve. :)
Taken from OxFHS - Marriage Index - 1538-1837.
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the information and advice. I am just a little puzzled by the second wife being Mary, when according to the details I have, she is called Emma.
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From the OFHS St Mary Mag PR
MOSS Wm otp
ELFRED Emma (x) otp banns
Wit Thomas IVATTS Sarah ELFRED
It doesn't say he is a widow
Hope that helps
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Oops. Sorry. :-[
Yes, it was Emma, Not Mary. ;D
Steve. :)
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Hi Sleat/Buckboy,
These replies were good news bad news! The 1841 Census shows:-
Moss William 45 Shoe Maker Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Emma 35 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss William 20 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss James 10 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss John 9 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Samuel 8 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Sarah 10 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Martha 3 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Joseph 1 Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf p.44
Moss Samuel 85 Agricultural Labourer Yes HO107/0875/F? CD1 HO_875.pdf
p.44
So William needs to have been married to someone prior to Emma, as you can see there is a son, William aged 20 and then a gap until James aged 10. I want to believe Buckboys data but Sleat has thrown me by saying there is no mention of William being married before.
Thanks for your help.
Bill
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The IGI has these baptisms
Caroline Moss
christening: 9 September 1818 ADDERBURY,OXFORD,ENGLAND
father: William Moss
mother: Sarah
William Moss
christening: 12 January 1821 ADDERBURY,OXFORD,ENGLAND
father: William Moss
mother: Sarah
so the 1818 marriage looks a good bet. Just because the 2nd marriage entry doesn't say that he was a widow doesn't mean that he wasn't as vicars sometimes didn't write it down. Does the marriage entry say that he was a bachelor? If it does then you've got a problem.
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The above is everything the entry says, it doesn't say bach or wid.
So it could be either
Sleat
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Thanks everyone,
I am pretty convinced that William was married twice and that we have the correct info. The fact that his son William appears on the census records and was born 5 years before the marriage and Emma, would have been 14 at the time of conception, for it to be hers, persuades me, that William Moss was married before.
Thanks for your involvement.
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I'm sure you're right. Have you found the death/burial for Sarah Moss(nee. Charles). Just to dot the I's, and cross the T's.
Steve. :)
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I'm sure you're right. Have you found the death/burial for Sarah Moss(nee. Charles). Just to dot the I's, and cross the T's.
Steve. :)
Hi Steve,
Yes, I have found the death of a Sarah Moss, buried Dec 1820. Not seen any details other than Oxford/Berks burial. My guess is, that she died having given birth to William. Also she had a daughter Caroline in 1818. It seems to all fit together, but I do not have 100% proof, which is often the case in genealogy.
Regards
bill
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Hi Steve,
Just revisited the death details of my Sarah Moss and find that it is incorrect. This Sarah appears to be 68 and a Spinster! So back to the drawing board!
Incidentally, interesting to see all the locations that you are connected with, bearing in mind that I live in High Wycombe, (though not a Bucks boy).
Bill