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Title: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: ForestBear on Wednesday 27 November 13 00:06 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone.

I'm trying to find out the parents of Edwin Paget. He was born 1898 around Devizes and passed away 23/04/1972.

He married a Florence Mary Hale in 1925 in Swindon.

He had a son called Dennis Paget born 1939 near Wallingford.

If anyone can offer a guess at Edwins Parents or other children for me?! I think he had at least 2 other sons.

Dennis Paget is my grandad :) I know that Florence and Edwin are both buried near Swindon and Dennis lives near Swindon as well.

I've got back to 1700s for the rest of my family, but grandads family is just stumping me.

Any help would be most appreciated.

(I have been guessing at an Ernest Albert Paget and Elizabeth Ellen Paget (born Mills) but I can't really prove any of it!)
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: ForestBear on Wednesday 27 November 13 00:50 GMT (UK)
You know, I've just realised I'm not actually sure he was even born in Devizes!

Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 27 November 13 08:43 GMT (UK)
Your first step should be to purchase Edwin's marriage certificate, as that will mention his father?

There are 3 Edwin Pagets born in the time frame!

December qtr 1897, Clutton, Edwin Percy Paget
June qtr 1898, Maidenhead, Edwin Mostyn G Paget
September qtr 1898, Devizes, Edwin Paget

And that's assuming that you have his birth correct?
If it's from the death certificate, it's only the information supplied at the time ::)


EDIT:
A tree on Ancestry has his parents as William Henry Paget and Annie L Beams, but I have no idea if their information is documentated?!

Off to work now - will try to help later.
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: cath151 on Wednesday 27 November 13 09:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I d tend to agree with parents possibly W H (Henry in 1901) and Annie
1901  Rg13/1945  29/8
The family are under Page in the census but 10 years later they appear as Paget.
Edwin aged 2 in 1898 born Market Lavington which was in the Devizes reg district.
Can t find any baptism, as KGarrad suggests it would be best to obtain the marriage certificate.

Cathy :)
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: ForestBear on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:14 GMT (UK)
The birth year is off of his grave, (I assume these are correct?)

The Edwin Paget born in Clutton is ruled out as his birth was in 1897.

So its either Maidenhead or Market Lavington I guess!

I am kind of erring away from anyone with middle names as my granddad and all of his children don't have middle names. Just makes me feel like it's a family thing not to have them?!

On the Maidenhead census for 1911 the parents are Edwin and May. (And they have beautiful handwriting!)

UPDATE: I've just ruled out the Maidenhead one as he got married in Maidenhead in 1927. (Whereas my mine married in 1925 and stayed married until death.) So it is the no middle names Devizes family.

Thank you for helping me narrow it down everyone! Now to find the other children....

Thanks for your help everyone :)

Edit: Yep, bought the 1911 census and his parents are indeed WH and Annie. Guess they had middle names at some point then! Wonder why they stopped?
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:24 GMT (UK)

If anyone can offer a guess at Edwins Parents or other children for me

(I have been guessing at

Isnt it better to purchase a certificate or two, and be sure you are following the right line, rather than "guess" and possibly end up with a meaningless tree that is a list of non-linked names, completely incorrect?

Edwins marriage cert will give a fathers name and occupation hopefully.
That, coupled with what else you know from the gravestone, might help you find him in 1901 and 1911 censuses.
In turn leading to the correct birth registration , his birth cert then hopefully confirming parentage and giving mothers maiden name.

As to his children, mothers maiden name is shown in the index after 1911. So it will be a case of looking for  births with surname Paget and mothers maiden name Hale.
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:28 GMT (UK)
The birth year is off of his grave, (I assume these are correct?)


The death registration gives a birthdate:

Edwin Paget born 6 July 1898

Death reg: Jun qtr 1972 Swindon 7c 2217.

For what it's worth, this (date-wise) is consistent with the Sep qtr 1898 Devizes birth registration.
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: ForestBear on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:33 GMT (UK)

If anyone can offer a guess at Edwins Parents or other children for me

(I have been guessing at

Isnt it better to purchase a certificate or two, and be sure you are following the right line, rather than "guess" and possibly end up with a meaningless tree that is a list of non-linked names, completely incorrect?

Edwins marriage cert will give a fathers name and occupation hopefully.
That, coupled with what else you know from the gravestone, might help you find him in 1901 and 1911 censuses.
In turn leading to the correct birth registration , his birth cert then hopefully confirming parentage and giving mothers maiden name.

As to his children, mothers maiden name is shown in the index after 1911. So it will be a case of looking for  births with surname Paget and mothers maiden name Hale.

Anything I have guessed at has been written down and not put onto my tree. Because it's a guess. Thus why I came here for some constructive help. :)
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:33 GMT (UK)
William Henry Paget and Annie L Beams

Interestingly his name is slightly different on what looks likely to be the marriage (in the index at least).

Marriage, Dec qtr 1881

Henry PAGE [sic]
Annie BEAMS

on the same page, Highworth 5a 17.
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:43 GMT (UK)
The family is enumerated as PAGE in 1901 (already found by Cathy) and also in 1891: RG12/1995/29/1.

Edwin's older brother Ernest seems to have been registered at birth as Ernest John PAGE (Dec qtr 1887 Chippenham) and to have died in WW1 as Ernest John PAGET, 24 Oct 1914.
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 27 November 13 15:04 GMT (UK)

Edwin's older brother Ernest seems to have been registered at birth as

Ernest John PAGE (Dec qtr 1887 Chippenham)

Wiltshire BMD has mother’s maiden name as BEAMES

1887 Ernest J PAGE   Corsham   History Centre   
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: HPaget on Saturday 28 March 20 10:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Forest Bear

I'm not sure how to use this but Edwin Paget was my granddad.

Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: jrc11 on Saturday 28 March 20 15:12 GMT (UK)
1939 register has a Leonard C Paget b 17/5/1928 living with parents Edwin & Florence in Wallingford.
A Leonard C Paget m Felicity V Barnes in q2 1956 @Marlborough.
A Felicity Valerie Barnes died q3 1973 @ Cheltenham.
A Leonard Claude Paget d q3 2002 @ Cheltenham
5 Paget children, mother's maiden name Barnes were born between 1957 and 1968, 3 in Marlborough 2 in Swindon. (I have not given names in accordance with RootsChat policy as they are likely to be still living.
The 1939 register has 5 closed records at the same address.
Regards
JRC
Title: Re: Edwin Paget 1898-1972
Post by: HPaget on Sunday 29 March 20 11:45 BST (UK)
I can confirm that Leonard Claude Paget married twice and had six children in his first marriage and two more children in his second marriage. The first two twins died but all the rest are alive and the family continues to grow.