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Title: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: IAFC55 on Monday 02 December 13 20:45 GMT (UK)

Hi

I'm looking for any information on the above man, who I believe was a Doctor who practiced in Warrington and passed away there on 13 May, 1965.

Regards

Ian Chambers

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 02 December 13 20:58 GMT (UK)

Hi just googling Dr John Thomas Dier, brings up someone else looking for him, born 1889 Dublin etc

Keyboard86

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Isobelruss on Monday 02 December 13 21:04 GMT (UK)

seems to have passed away 1963
probate was granted to James Robert Dier.maintenance fitter £16931/12s
Ash Villa,136 Warrington Road, Penketh,Nr Warrington
died 13 May 1963

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: suzard on Monday 02 December 13 21:16 GMT (UK)

Probate
John Thomas Dier of Ash Villa 136 Warrington Rd Penketh Nr Warrington died 13 May 1963 Probate Liverpool 9 July to James Robert Dier maintenance fitter
Effects 16931 12s

Suz

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: suzard on Monday 02 December 13 21:26 GMT (UK)

Possible birth reg
John Thomas Dier
Jun qtr 1889
Enniscorthy
Ireland
4 560

Arrival in England 9 Sept 1921 on "Novara"
Port of Embarkation : Bombay
Lt John Thomas Deir
age 32
occ Doctor H.M.Army
Military Hospital Plymouth
Country of Last Permanent residence: India

Suz

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Isobelruss on Monday 02 December 13 21:27 GMT (UK)

1901 Ireland census only throws up 1 result

James R Dier 44 Wexford  farmer
Elisa Anne 35 wife b Carlow Co
John Thos 11 son b Wexford Co
Richard Henry 8 ditto
Robert Abey 4 ditto
Sam Jas 2 ditto all Church of Ireland
Clonroche,Wexford

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: suzard on Monday 02 December 13 21:39 GMT (UK)

So did John Thomas name his son after his grandfather??
Birth reg of Dr John Thomas Dier's son?

Birth reg FreeBMD
 James Robert Dier
Jun qtr 1924
mother's maiden name Mcpherson
Warrington
8c 304

death reg
James Robert Dier
born 26 Mar 1924
death reg Jun 1992
age 68
Warrington
35 1000

and death reg of Dr John Thomas Dier's father?

James R Dier
Dec qtr 1946
age 89
Enniscorthy
4 297



Suz

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Isobelruss on Monday 02 December 13 21:43 GMT (UK)

wifes death

Julia Annie Dier b 24 Jul 1895
d Jun qu 1976 Warrington

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Isobelruss on Monday 02 December 13 21:57 GMT (UK)

1911
he was a medical student boarding at Heytesbury Street,East Side,Fitzwilliam,Dublin and he was single.Looks like he could have married in Scotland as thats where Julia was born.First child born 1917
Julia Annie MacPherson born Edinburgh 24 Jul 1895

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 02 December 13 22:03 GMT (UK)

Medical registers have him qualifying in Scotland [LCRP & LRCS, Edinburgh, LRFPS Glasgow - all 1919] address in 1923 & 1929 is in Enniscorthy. 1931, 1947, 1951 and 1959 find him in Penketh, Warrington

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: IAFC55 on Thursday 05 December 13 11:39 GMT (UK)

Hi Everyone

Thanks very much for all of the great info, I think I can answer the qyery I was sent now.

Regards

Ian Chambers

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: robert breen on Wednesday 14 May 14 16:57 BST (UK)

Hi Ian

John Thomas Dier was my granny's brother.  He was oldest in the family.   He had two sisters and three brothers.

John Thomas was born on June 4, 1891, in Garruan Upper, Killann Co. Wexford.  He qualified as a doctor at the College of Surgeons, Dublin and later at Edinburgh University.  He married Julia McPherson from Edinburgh and settled in Warrington.  They had two sons, Robert and Richard

Brother             Richard Henry, 1892 - 1916, killed in the Somme
Brother             Robert Abraham, 1896 - 1976
Brother             Samuel, born Clonroche, 1898 - 1978
Sister               Olivia, 1901- 2011
Sister               Florence,  1903

Hope this is of help to you

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: IAFC55 on Thursday 15 May 14 11:28 BST (UK)

Hi Robert

Thanks for the info. I was looking for info on John on behalf of a Michael Breen, I presume you are related?

Regards

Ian Chambers

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: robert breen on Thursday 15 May 14 17:56 BST (UK)

Hi Ian,

Yes we are

Thanks for replying

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: robert breen on Monday 19 May 14 22:36 BST (UK)

Hi Mabel

Thank you for your reply

John Thomas Dier was my gran's brother.  You say "Medical registers have him qualifying in Scotland".  Would you be able to tell me how to acces those medical registers?

Regards

Robert

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 19 May 14 22:45 BST (UK)

they're available on Ancestry - through subscription. not sure what other such services would have these

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: robert breen on Monday 19 May 14 22:58 BST (UK)

Thanks Mable

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: John R Dier on Sunday 24 August 14 22:27 BST (UK)

Hi Ian,

I saw this post when my football mad son was trying to see if Eric Dier at Spurs is a relative. Dr. John Dier was my Great Uncle, his Brother Sam was my Grandfather. His sister Olivia mentioned in the posts, Robert, posting stuff here, is her grandson, died just under 3 years ago was the oldest person in Ireland a few weeks short of 110. John has descendants alive and well in The UK, who are in regular contact, one grandson also called John, so you can see it is a common family name. Dr John's brother Richard was killed in WW1, Robert never had children, so Sam was left to carry on the name. His eldest Cecil, was my Dad. My son Paul is the only male at this stage to carry on the name, so you can see, not a great spread on the family tree down the generations.

Hope this has added to your quest for information.
John

Title: Re: Doctor John Thomas Dier
Post by: robert breen on Monday 25 August 14 10:06 BST (UK)

Hi John,

Thanks very much for your reply.  I remember I met you at your fathers funeral, a few years ago.  If I get a chance I’ll drop you a few lines. 


All the best

Michael
(Olive’s son)