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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Ad van Zantvoort on Saturday 07 December 13 15:21 GMT (UK)
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Seeking relatives of RAF Sgt Duncan Rodger BLACK 979716 who was the Wireless Operator of a 58 Squadron Whitley bomber coded N1462. On the 18th June 1941 the aircraft was intercepted by an german nightfighter on their reternway from a raid on Cologne and shotdown near the Dutch village BEST. He and four other crewmembers were killed in the crash andburied at Eindhoven General cemetery in The Netherlands. Duncan Rodger BLACK was the son of Duncan and Elizabeth BLACK, of Greenock, Renfrewshire.
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The local paper might be able to advertise your search:
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/
Good hunting!
Philip
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Hi
Sorry - but as explained by the moderator in an earlier post - Rootschat does not allow details of possible living persons to be posted here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=670288.0;topicseen
You may find the following helpful in tracing relatives
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - this is not a subscription site but a pay per view site and you have to purchase credits
Use the above site to look for Duncan's birth to identify the year he was born. It will also give you his mothers maiden name. You will then need to search Scotlands People for Black births in Renfrew with the same father and mothers names to identify any siblings
If you decide to contact the newspaper as suggested above - you will then have some additional info to help in any search for living relatives
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Hi ,
SP has a birth for a Duncan Rodger Black 1920 Greenock , Renfrew.
This certificate will not be available online as it's less than 100 years , unfortunately the online index does not allow you to search using the mother's maiden name.
ev
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SP has a marriage for a Duncan Black and Elizabeth Rodger 1914 Greenock , Renfrew.
ev
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Hi Philippe,
Thanks very much for the local newspaper link. I always contact local newspapers first and hope that they publish an appeal for tracking down people but most of the time I heard nothing anymore so I suggest to get in touch with an local newspaper to get in touch with enthousiastic people on Rootschat.com who can help me out. I will also try your option.
Thanks anyway,
Adrian
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Hi CaroleW,
It is not my intention to add details of possible living people here on Rootschat.com. My intention is to get in touch with enthousiastic people who can help me out with some background information to the family I am looking for. If a member have some sensitive info he or she can send the info on a PM.
Thank you very much for the info you have gave me. I will certainly use the options.
Regards,
Adrian
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Hi,
I believe I have research on the family you are looking for. It ia a few years since I researched it for a friend so will need to look it out for you.
How are you related to Duncan?
I remember though that the Blacks came from a small island near Oban - possibly had a shop in Oban too - and went to Greenock via Glasgow. I think that Rodger was a maiden name somewhere in the past - possibly his mother - and didn't manage to trace them anywhere else except Greenock.
Will get back to you when I find the info.
:)
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Hello "Grey Seagull"
That's fantastic news!!! I am NOT related to Duncan Black but I researching the crash of his aircraft Whitley N1462 where he died. His aircraft was shotdown near Best in The Netherlands 17/18 June 1941. His aircraft brought down by a German nightfighter. I am in touch with the relatives of Sgt Weldon(2nd Pilot), and Observer Sgt F.A.Hatton also through the proffesional help with Rootschat members. Also I am in touch with the grandson of the German pilot who brought down N1462, have interviewed some eyewitnesses and I am in toch with the farmer's son who helped Navigator Sgt J.B.Jones with his leg. After this Sgt Jones ended up in a POW camp in Germany. In a later stage we would like to put a memorial at or near the site in memory of this crew.
Thank you very much,
Adrian
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Dear Grey Seagull.
Any news from your research to track down the relatives of Sgt D.R.Black??
Cheers,
Adrian
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Currently i researching the loss and fate of a Whitley bomber crashed 18th June 1941 after being shotdown by a German nightfighter. The aircraft in concern crashed on a farmland near Best in Holland. Four crewmembers where killed and one survived the crash but heavy wounded on both legs. He was made after treatment a POW. One of the crewmembers not survived was Sgt Duncan Rodger Black who was the son of Duncan and Elizabeth Black of Greenock,Renfrewshire. I already send a message to the Renfrewshire Family History Society.
It was our plan to put an memorial at the actual crashsite but because of the COVID 19 virus we will planned this on the 18th June 2021. We would like that the families attending.
Regards, Adrian
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http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?8516-Whitley-N1462-shotdown-17-18-June-1941