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Title: Williams family
Post by: Dannemois on Thursday 12 December 13 16:37 GMT (UK)

Can someone please do a look-up on the 1891 census for Israel Williams, born circa 1856, Rhymney, with wife Margaret, and son, Abraham, 1885, both born in Pontlottyn.
Thanks

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 12 December 13 16:54 GMT (UK)

This could be them Living at 7 Llanover Road, Llanover Upper Blaenavon

Israel Williams 35 b Rhumney, Monmouthshire Engine Driver
Margaret Williams 35 b Pontlotten, Monmouthshire
Annie L Williams    10  b Hyde Park America!!!  ;D
Catherine Williams 3 b Merthyr-Tydfil
Abraham Williams    5 b Pontlotten, Monmouthshire

Kay
   

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Dannemois on Thursday 12 December 13 17:21 GMT (UK)

Thanks Kay
I don't know if its the correct way to do it but I've placed a post on the American board asking for help to locate passenger list details?

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 12 December 13 17:25 GMT (UK)

I really don't know what to make of her birthplace.  It does look like Hyde Park America, but I do have the feeling it could be an error  Will try to post an extract

Kay

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 12 December 13 17:32 GMT (UK)

This is hopefully Annie 's birthplace from 1851

Kay

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Dannemois on Thursday 12 December 13 18:39 GMT (UK)

Hi Kay
You had her birthplace spot on; here is a reply off the American board:
Ann(ie) was born on 13th August, 1879 Hyde Park, Lakawana, Pennsylvania - parents Isaac Williams and Margaret Morgan

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 12 December 13 18:42 GMT (UK)

Excellent. I certainly couldn't find them on the 1881 Welsh Census. 

Kay

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 13 December 13 22:35 GMT (UK)

this looks like yuor man


Cardiff Times  6 December 1902
COLLIERY CASES AT TREDEGAR. At Tredegar Police Court on Tuesday there were three cases against Powell-Duffryn Company's workmen for breach of rules. Mr C. Kenshole, Aberdare, appeared to prosecute, Israel Williams (47), driver of a fan engine at the Bargoed Pit, was summoned for not efficiently attending to the machinery. Mr G. G. Hann, manager, stated that defendant went on duty at 5 p.m.. and when witness went round about 10 p.m. he found him asleep on a bench. Defendant awoke about 20 minutes later, and no entry had been made in the ventilation book for the previous hour. Defendant, who said his rest had been, broken through illness at home and regret, was fined 40s, or 14 days' in Division II.


There's also some articles on an Israel Williams, grocer of Pontlottyn, being made bankrupt in 1886

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 13 December 13 22:44 GMT (UK)

1880 US census, Youngstown, Mahoning, Ohio

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M89R-FQX
   

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: Dannemois on Saturday 14 December 13 02:46 GMT (UK)

Hello Mabel
Thanks for the details; all interesting information

Title: Re: Williams family
Post by: julefamily on Tuesday 04 September 18 06:12 BST (UK)

Hyde Park was a welsh settlement in Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania. USA.  Inhabited by many welsh coal miners, etc.