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Title: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: mikehardy on Wednesday 18 December 13 16:06 GMT (UK)

William and Susan married 1st Jan 1776, All Saints, Carleton Rode, Norfolk, England. Archdeacon's transcripts - File no 7728 also listed Boyd's Marriage index 1538-1840.

There is no sign of her birth or death record.  I have looked on freereg, Norfolk bishop's transcripts, family search. - c1750  The marriage was by banns.

Help please.

Mike.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: The Yokel on Wednesday 18 December 13 20:43 GMT (UK)

Hi Mike

There is a Susan Parsons bap 6 Mar 1760 at Wymondham on freereg

yokel

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: mikehardy on Wednesday 18 December 13 21:50 GMT (UK)

Thanks yokel,  Never looked c age 16, were they allowed to marry so young in those days?

Regards,

Mike.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: The Yokel on Thursday 19 December 13 10:35 GMT (UK)

Hi Mike

Yes I think they were allowed to marry at that age, but the date above was for a baptism, when was she born!! ;)

yokel

ps
they married in 1775
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xam/

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: Duodecem on Thursday 19 December 13 15:37 GMT (UK)

Have you ruled out Susan's remarrying, since she was so young when she married? Also, the names Susan and Susannah seem to be interchangeable in other records I have looked at, perhaps that it the case here?

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: The Yokel on Thursday 19 December 13 20:16 GMT (UK)

Hi

See Carlton Rode MI's number 135

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xat/

yokel

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: mikehardy on Thursday 19 December 13 22:01 GMT (UK)

Thanks, but there is no service available to deliver the link.

Mike.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: findem on Thursday 19 December 13 22:30 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Might be advisable, as a precaution, to request a lookup to see if someone will check the Carlton Rode Parish Marriage register to check if there is mention of Susan Parson being a minor and/or mentions married with consent of her parents.

Regards.

PS at 10.20 pm Thursday UK time still no service

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: The Yokel on Friday 20 December 13 08:52 GMT (UK)

Hi
Basically it says
Susan wife of William Hardy died 27 Nov 1832 aged 81
William Hardy died 15 Dec 1814 aged 63
Sarah their daughter died 8 Aug 1786 aged 7

So Susan was born c1751 so she would have been 9 if it is the Wymondham baptism.

As there are a lot of gaps in the AT's, I think as 'findem' says you need to get a lookup in the Parish registers.

yokel

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: mikehardy on Friday 20 December 13 09:17 GMT (UK)

Thanks, I have just looked on the MI - lots of useful info.  A long time between birth and baptism, is this typical at this time?

Mike.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: The Yokel on Friday 20 December 13 09:41 GMT (UK)

I wouldn't say it was typical at the time, but it is a possibility.

It may be worth trying to find when her parents were married, Wymondham PR's are available online, it may be a different Susan altogether.

The Susan you are looking for may have been born/baptised in Carlton Rode but there are so many gaps in the AT's you need to check the Parish Records

yokel

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: Duodecem on Friday 20 December 13 09:54 GMT (UK)

I would say that a gap of 9 years between birth and baptism-given the risk of child mortality and the belief that baptism was necessary in order get to heaven- was very unusual.
There are a number of Parsons baptisms in Carleton Rode in the 1740s/50s. None for a Susan-though there is a mother called Susan/Susannah among the parents. http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=2920638
It may be worth checking the PRS as your Susan's records may not have been transcribed.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: mikehardy on Friday 20 December 13 14:55 GMT (UK)

Thanks Jan, what do you mean - PRS?

Mike.

Title: Re: Susan Parson M William Hardy 1776 - Susan birth and death record?
Post by: Duodecem on Friday 20 December 13 15:03 GMT (UK)

Parish records-Family search have some records online, https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
They take a bit of trawling through, but can be useful and you can also see where there are gaps in the original records.
If you can't find what you're looking for, you may need to request a look-up.