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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Patoboy on Thursday 19 December 13 12:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Anyone out there who would know what uniform this lady is wearing.
Thanks Pat.
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What country did she live in? It would help. I suspect NZ or Australia.
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As far as I'm aware she was born near Poole,Dorset and died in Denaby Main, Doncaster, South Yorks.
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The pin on her tie looks like it might be a Masonic one. Perhaps worth contacting The Womens Order of Freemasonry which started in the UK just after the turn of the last century.
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Thanks for your input, will give that a try.
Pat.
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I may need my eyes checked (along with my Dad who thought of it in the first place!) but could it potentially be something to do with music?
We reckon the bottom part of the pin on the tie looks shaped almost like a horn as it's more curved than what you'd see on the Freemasons symbol, which tends to be more of a V shape.
Although, now I'm second guessing myself. :P
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Hi, my first instinct was that it was a military badge worn as a keepsake.
Frank.
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Hi
It reminded me of a light infantry horn
regards
westmorland
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Hi
It reminded me of a light infantry horn
regards
westmorland
That's the one.
Frank.
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Yep, looks like The Light Infantry to me as well. :)
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This one:
Could be the Dorsets or Durham L.I.
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Hi, take a look here,
Frank.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xaq/
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Snap jim1
;)
Frank.
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Although this is very pseudo military looking I don't think it is.
Women in organisations such as the Salvation or Church army wouldn't have dressed like this nor women in the military.
This looks v. late WW1 - early 1920's when the women's movement was at it's height so may be more of a political statement than anything else. What the significance of the cap badge is I can't say.
The badge resembles this more than the other.
It's the Ox & Bucks.
jim
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Good evening,
She's wearing normal clothing in a dark colour and has a sweetheart brooch for either the Ox and Bucks or the Shropshires.
John915
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Back again,
Jim, that badge is pre 1908. The 52nd foot were the Oxfordshire Light Infantry, Bucks was added in 1908 and the no dropped. But you were close ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
John915
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And again,
Very similar to my grandmother, seated.
John915
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http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2010/01/b00pk7zp_512_288_09bf8.jpg
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Thanks for all the replies, Annie Dorcas Upward married my Great uncle in Dorset in 1918 by 1919 she had died if that helps at all.
Regards Pat.
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It does help because it means it can't be later than 1919, so v. late war 1917-1919.
It's remarkable similar to John's photo however it's not a sweetheart brooch although she appears to be wearing it as such. These were bought items & smaller as in John's photo.
I picked on the Ox & Bucks because there appears to something above the horn in the centre which doesn't appear on the Dorset L.I. cap badge.
I'm not sure she was ever in Hackstaples Nazi blackshirts.
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It does help because it means it can't be later than 1919, so v. late war 1917-1919.
It's remarkable similar to John's photo however it's not a sweetheart brooch although she appears to be wearing it as such. These were bought items & smaller as in John's photo.
I picked on the Ox & Bucks because there appears to something above the horn in the centre which doesn't appear on the Dorset L.I. cap badge.
I'm not sure she was ever in Hackstaples Nazi blackshirts.
True - she was dead before they were formed. But that all black uniform with tie and hat is unusual.
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How do you know the clothing was black...It could have been any dark colour.
Carol
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Something to do with education perhaps - she has a book open.. and see these Edwardian students: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2776785725_ebdfe98057.jpg
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From the 1890's on the masculine shirt & tie was more of a political statement than anything else.
Into the Edwardian Era it also became something of a fashion style but the underlying message was always women's rights.
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Good evening,
I have been looking at it all again and picking up on what Jim says there is something above the horn but below the cord. This would fit several but I will go with with the Shropshires which has KSLI across the badge in that position, (Kings Shropshire Light Infantry).
I had a piece from a book that purportedly showed how to tell a colour (roughly) from the shade of black or gray. A, I can't find it B, I don't know how well it worked if at all. But I would say black, very dark blue or very dark green. I have often wondered what colour my grandmother was wearing. She and her sisters in that and other photo's all appear to be in the same colour.
John915
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I have often wondered what colour my grandmother was wearing. She and her sisters in that and other photo's all appear to be in the same colour.
Probably a dressmaker somewhere in the family John.It's cheaper to buy in bulk.
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To be photographed reading a book imports a feeling of the lady making a mission statement.
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To be photographed reading a book imports a feeling of the lady making a mission statement.
Hi, could it not just be a "Prop" for the photograph?
Regard's,
Frank.
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Books were often used as props to denote literacy but from around 1890 when literacy levels had improved it wasn't deemed so important.
By this time books are rarely used for this purpose but it may be of some significance to her.
jim
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Books were often used as props to denote literacy but from around 1890 when literacy levels had improved it wasn't deemed so important.
By this time books are rarely used for this purpose but it may be of some significance to her.
jim
Good morning Jim, thankyou for that, That's another little snippet of knowledge logged in my head ;)
Regards,
Frank.
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A better scan of the badge is needed. It could be - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Cap-badges-Yorkshire-Light-Infantry-Vicy-Badge-/151066775177?_trksid=p2054897.l4276
As it says it is up to 1901. After that they dropped the crown. So it could have been passed down.
Ken
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To be photographed reading a book imports a feeling of the lady making a mission statement.
Hi, could it not just be a "Prop" for the photograph?
Regard's,
Frank.
Yes it was clearly a prop. The point I was trying to make was that her choice of prop may have been significant.
:)
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To be photographed reading a book imports a feeling of the lady making a mission statement.
Hi, could it not just be a "Prop" for the photograph?
Regard's,
Frank.
Yes it was clearly a prop. The point I was trying to make was that her choice of prop may have been significant.
:)
Ahh, I see, apologies.
Frank. ;)
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No apology required Frank.
Kind regards
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Hi
The Badge does not have a crown on the top but a loop and knot
the KOYLI & DLI usualy have a crown
regards
westmorland