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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: cathy52 on Saturday 21 December 13 22:17 GMT (UK)
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Why cant I find my gt aunt who was born in 1864 in banbridge co down.she was sarah potts her father was william potts her mother was mary scott from seapatrick co down. :'(,
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Your earlier topic on DOWN board (where this one also belongs) listed the family-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=605312
1864 was the start of birth reistration but not all early births were registered. It's also possible that Sarah was born sonetime before 1864- where did you get a year for her birth?
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I have her marriage cert and her death cert.but I am finding it very hard to find her birth. :'(
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Yes, but "where did you get a year for her birth?" If it was calculated from marriage and/or birth certificate or census records then the date 1864 may not be accuarate.
If you know what church(es) the family attended then you could check if baptismal records shed any light on when she was born (some registers only give baptism date but if before 1864 then you'll know why you can't find a birth certificate).
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I am also looking for my great great grandmother, Mary Jane Hammond who married Charles Morgan June 19, 1858 in Garvaghy, Down, Ireland. I can only find a record of their marriage through Family Search and thus I also know her father was Moses Hammond. Her Death Notice states her mother's maiden name as Bowman. But I can also find no other records for any of these people.
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What sort of 'other records' are you expecting to find? Civil registration of births, deaths & Catholic marriages started in 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages) so before these dates you'd need to search for church records- which may not be online or even survive/exist.
This is the marriage you've mentioned- the certificate will list bride's residence and father's occupation-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ9-RJN
'Moses Hammond' is hopefully a fairly uncommon name and I did find this mention of one born c1805 Co. Down-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5HP-128
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You already have Ros's website, so have you looked at Ray's ? http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xy7/
You may or may not know that Seapatrick is a village next to Banbridge, which is now 'joined' because of the 'new build' houses and school, so part of Banbridge and the name comes from the river Bann which run through and was given the name when they built the bridge in the early 1700s... it is a lovely town
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I am also looking for my great great grandmother, Mary Jane Hammond who married Charles Morgan June 19, 1858 in Garvaghy, Down, Ireland. I can only find a record of their marriage through Family Search and thus I also know her father was Moses Hammond. Her Death Notice states her mother's maiden name as Bowman. But I can also find no other records for any of these people.
Griffiths Valuation Record Information
Tenant
Family Name 1 MORGAN
Forename 1 CHARLES
Landlord
Family Name 2 MCAULEY
Forename 2 SAMUEL
Location
County DOWN
Barony IVEAGH, UPPER (LOWER HALF)
Union BANBRIDGE
Parish DRUMGOOLAND
Townland CLOGHSKELT
Place Name CLOGHSKELT
Place Type TOWNLAND
Publication Details
Position on Page 3
Printing Date 1863
Act 15&16
Sheet Number 35
Map Reference 56
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I noticed your newest query on Potts, but prefer to reply here.
This simple record just records the homestead/tenant who has I acre or more for tax purposes, but helps with searching church records
Potts, James Townland: Ballymoney Year: 1828
Potts, Richard Townland: Ballyvally Year: 1828
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/seapatrick-parish.php#.VVdLYkuDoYU
You can search the same website for Garvaghy
Hammond, Richard Townland: Tullinisky Year: 1834
Hammond, Robert Townland: Tullinisky Year: 1834
Have you searched all the church records listed by Ros Davies see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/CHURCHES/A-I.htm#Garvaghy for Hammond
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PHOTOSwords/SeapatrickAll.htm for Potts
and exhausted http://countydown.x10.mx
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Yes, I have looked at all the sites and still can't find anything else. Thank you
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I have this info on Moses Hammond but can find no other nor record of his marriage to Bowman
MOSES HAMMOND Born GRIVAGHY, Down Served in 7th Dragoon Guards Discharged aged 31 Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents. 1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271). MOSES HAMMOND Born GRIVAGHY, Down Served in 7th Dragoon Guards Discharged aged 31. Collection:Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodiesDate range: 1814 - 1827 Reference:WO 97/59/51
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You mention that the certificate will give me further info but there is no image available. How do I view the certificate?https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ9-RJN
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You mention that the certificate will give me further info but there is no image available. How do I view the certificate?https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ9-RJN
You can view the original certificate on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk
You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.
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Thank you Elwyn. I must work out how to buy credit in sterling. I am in South Africa. :-\
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With a credit card?
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They want to charge fifteen pounds not 2 pounds fifty. Have a chosen the wrong option?
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Yes use "search registrations." The option you have gone for is for ordering a formal copy by post.
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Thanks I tried that and tried to buy some credit but it does not like my south african bank card
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I could ask someone in the UK to do it for me but how will they know how many credits they need to buy?
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OK it worked and I got credits and I could search but how do I view the certificate?
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Click on “search for a marriage registration”.
It should then invite you to log in.
Log in.
Enter either party’s name and the year of the marriage.
There’s only 1 match in 1858. (Couple married 19.6.1858 Banbridge regn area).
Click on “Full”.
After a short pause, that will then bring up the image of the original marriage certificate, with typewritten information beneath it.
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Thank you. Will try that. How many credits will it ask for, do you know?
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Thank you. Will try that. How many credits will it ask for, do you know?
Each credit is 50p. So it should be 5 credits.
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Thanks