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Title: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Tuesday 31 December 13 21:41 GMT (UK)
Hi
I am new to this list - how do I look up a burial at Greyfriars Cemetery?

Baby: John MURIE about 1810 - 1 year

Thanks
Marcella
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Tuesday 31 December 13 21:42 GMT (UK)
Grrr NOT 1810 but 1801 - sorry
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: ev on Wednesday 01 January 14 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Marcella , welcome to Rootschat  :)

From the Perth burial register -
John Murie age 1 year 3 months , died 10th May 1801(teething) , burial Greyfriars 12th May 1801 ,
father George Murie(occupation glover)

http://www.pkc.gov.uk/archives


ev
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Throth on Friday 03 January 14 08:29 GMT (UK)
There are nine Monument Inscriptions for Murie in Greyfriars Cemetery, but none mention George Murie.  Does George have relations in Perth?

Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Friday 03 January 14 16:25 GMT (UK)
Thank u List for the invaluable link to the burials at Greyfriars
I spent New Year's Day looking at those burials and come to the conclusion that the Leleas and George buried there cannot be the parents of my William - too old:(
Would love to hook up with John Scott Murie but can't find the match
I guess I need to look at a cemetery in Dundee where he died - is that the same link?
Any suggestions as to names of possible cemeteries would be great
Thanks again for your help
Marcella
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Throth on Friday 03 January 14 16:52 GMT (UK)
Can you provide a little more information - date of death, name of wife etc?

Throth
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Friday 03 January 14 20:42 GMT (UK)
William MURIE b 1802 Perth  d 1872 Clyde Canal drowning  married 1833, Dundee
Helen/Ellen Crosser/Corser DONALD b 1811 Dundee  d 1891 Glasgow

I believe Helen's parents were James DONALD and Mary CROSS/CROSSER
I am looking for William's parents..........

Thank u for your help
Marcella
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Throth on Friday 03 January 14 21:06 GMT (UK)
What does William's death certificate say?  You can access that for a small fee from www.ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk

Throth
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Friday 03 January 14 21:17 GMT (UK)
I have the dc - it gives no parents - wife is Helen DONALD and informant is son, Alexander.
Cause of death is drowning - with a correction record that says death was immediate - no doctor saw the body
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Throth on Friday 03 January 14 21:32 GMT (UK)
Is David Kinnear Murie, born Dundee, 4th August 1834, your William's son?

The 1851 census Kincardineshire has a William K. Murray born Perth 1801.

If this is also the same William, his mother may be a Kinnear

Throth

Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Friday 03 January 14 21:54 GMT (UK)
David Kinnear Murie is William and Helen's son - he is named for David Kinnear who married Helen's great aunt (Helen's mother's sister) quite late in life - they had no children
Helen's mother was Mary CROSS/CROSSER/CORSER - this maiden name comes down the descendent line as does the last name DONALD and CURRIE - all maiden names of various women in the family
My problem arises with my ggrandmother Jessie Scott MURIE - I was looking for the Scott in the family when I realized that the parents I had for William were not correct and his dc did not help me at all - now everyone is in disarray
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Throth on Friday 03 January 14 23:22 GMT (UK)
Sorry I'm not following this .......

a) Is your great grandmother Jessie Scott Murie the daughter of John Scott Murie, or are you hoping that there is a link?

b) How is she related to William Murie and Helen Donald?

Throth
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: Cambron on Saturday 04 January 14 19:01 GMT (UK)
From SP:

George Muirie(note spelling) and Lillias Taylor had William Muirie in Perth in 1802.
Second son of William Murie and Helen Donald  was born George Murie in Dundee in 1837.

Seems a reasonable fit

Cambron
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: marcellas on Thursday 08 January 15 18:15 GMT (UK)
It seems every January I loop around to George Murie and Lilias Taylor:) To answer the questions above (a year late) Jessie Scott Murie is the granddaughter of William Murie b 1802 - the daughter of William and Helen's son Alexander Murie.
I believe that my William is the William born to George Murie and Lilias Taylor in Perth in 1802. There is a marriage between a George Murie and a Lilias Taylor recorded in Perth in 1793.....possibly the same guys
I am trying to find the parents of both George and Lilias which is why I am hunting around in Greyfriars Cemetery.....it seems that George and Lilias may have lost two children in infancy: Mary and John are both buried at Greyfriars...perhaps George and Lilias are as well........is a lookup available at this cemetery   thx  Marcella
Title: Re: Lookup GREYFRIARS CEMETERY PERTH - MURIE
Post by: bleckie on Friday 09 January 15 12:54 GMT (UK)
Hi

Look up for Perth (Greyfriars)

http://www.pkc.gov.uk/article/3887/Perth-burgh-burial-registers-1794-1855

Please note dates

Yours Aye
BruceL