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Hi everyone. I am looking for any info on any Peares living in Enniscorthy, Wexford. Any info whatever would be very welcome. :)
thank you
PeareFamily
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Your request is very vague ,we dont know who or what you are looking for,i suggest you look at the 1901/1911 Census'es plenty of them on there.
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Another post on Wexford board with a bit more detail-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=673283
Hi everyone. I am looking for a Humphrey f Peare abt 1830-1888 who lived in Wexford, Ireland with his wife Louisa. I can't find anything about his parents only that he had a son called Henry William Peare.
Hopefully someone knows about him because I am completely stuck!
Thank you
PeareFamily
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Dont know if these are connected From Irish Genealogy details as given.
Marriage in St Werburgh C O I ,20 Nov 1824
Humphrey Peare of Wexford to Mary Ann Ryan
Witnesses Matthew Murray and John Peare.
children
Eliza 30 July 1830
Robert Henry 30 March 1832
Mary 15 March 1834
Barbara 5 June 1837.
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Index of Irish Death Notices ''P''
Peare Humphreys ,Grange Wexford, Carrick on Suir ,Tip Ireland,Cork Examiner 23 Feb 1863.
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'Humphrey Peare' is perhaps not as uncommon a name as one would first think.
Humphrey Peare died 12 March 1864 Co. Dublin-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639401156
Humphreys Peare died 18 May 1873 Co.Dublin-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639375260
However, these entries may be more relevant-
Louisa Anna Peare died 9 Apr.1871 late of Kilmallock House, Co.Wexford died Dublin (husband Humphreys Francis Peare)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639535038
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014893/005014893_00318.pdf
Humphreys Francis Peare died 12 Aug.1888 of Kilmallock, Co.Wexford (widow Alicia Peare)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639454519
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014902/005014902_00314.pdf
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Henry William (1869) parents Humphrey F Peare & Louisa Peare
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPYC-HBM
DEATH: Anna Louisa Peare (age 30) 1871 Dublin volume 7 page 574
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRTX-RQQ
On same page is recorded the death of Anna Louisa Peare (under 1 year)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRTX-RQ3
Marriage- 12 Nov.1862 Booterstown, Co. Dublin
Humphreys Francis Peare, son of Humphreys, to Louisa Anna Peare, daughter of John Peare
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFD-NDC
Humphrey Francis Peare born c1830 according to death registration-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FT4L-PQS
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There's a Henry Wm Peare born Wexford (correct age to be one born 1869) in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Delgany/Kindlestown_Lower/1819838
His widow & children in 1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Kilcoole/Ballyronan/896591
DEATH: Lily Sara Peare (age 78) Apr./June 1949 Rathdrum reg. dist. volume 2 page 526
Possible details of Humphrey's 2nd wife Alicia found but will wait to see if of interest.
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Hi everyone. I am looking for any info on any Peares living in Enniscorthy, Wexford. Any info whatever would be very welcome. :)
thank you
PeareFamily
"google" Peare, Enniscorthy gets some results
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http://www.eircomphonebook.ie/ Try telephone listings residential and business at this link.
Seems to work best for county Wexford search (rather than Enniscorthy)
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Har (Harry) Peare lived at 24 Bishopswater in the 1950s to 1960s. He was a gravedigger at St Ibars (Crostown)
There was a quarry at Edenvale called Peares.
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Hi There,
My family are from Kilmallock House near Enniscorthy in Co. Wexford. I believe I should have the info you are looking for there. My father has given me loads of old Peare family records, documents, photos and maps. I also have some info regarding Humphrey Peare too, if required?
What info do you want to know?
I could possibly email you some copy's I have.
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Hi
There are two Peare graves in Kilmallock cemetery which adjoins Kilmallock House.
Humphrey William, 3rd son of Robert Peare of Kilmallock House died 18th February 1862 aged 10 years.
Robert died 21th September 1761 aged 32 years.
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from "Houses of Wexford"(by kind permission of David Rowe and Eithne Scallan)
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Peare; Kilmallock Ballymurn
House built by Huguenot Peare family;
Robert Peare married to Ruth Humpheries 1750
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Dublin Evening Poet; 1840;
Monkstown Church, John H Peare, esq, son of late Humphreys Peare, esq, of Sweetfarm Wexford, to Miss Woulfe, Kingsrown Dublin.
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Iam looking for any information on Humphrey H Peare 1807-1887 father of George Hutchins Peare..My grandmothers mother was Eleanor Wright married to George Hutchins Peare DOB 1833-1875.The family relocated to Liverpool England.
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Hi There,
My family are from Kilmallock House near Enniscorthy in Co. Wexford. I believe I should have the info you are looking for there. My father has given me loads of old Peare family records, documents, photos and maps. I also have some info regarding Humphrey Peare too, if required?
What info do you want to know?
I could possibly email you some copy's I have.
Hello
I am a Lindsay and we are related to Mary Peare who married the Rev Thomas Lindsay. I have inherited two portraits - one is of Mary Peare (nee Ryan) who married Humphreys Peare in 1824 and two of her daughters - I think Mary and Barbara. The other portrait is of their brother Robert Peare b.1832. I know that Robert married Amelia, but I cannot trace their children or his death. Do you have such information? I would be very grateful for any crumbs!
Many thanks.
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Hi, I am a member of Ballymurn Heritage group and we are hoping to publish a Journal/Book and would be delighted if anyone was interested in sharing some photo's or information on the Peare family of Kilmallock House.
Regards,
Martina Boylan
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Hi There,
My family are from Kilmallock House near Enniscorthy in Co. Wexford. I believe I should have the info you are looking for there. My father has given me loads of old Peare family records, documents, photos and maps. I also have some info regarding Humphrey Peare too, if required?
What info do you want to know?
I could possibly email you some copy's I have.
Hello
I am a Lindsay and we are related to Mary Peare who married the Rev Thomas Lindsay. I have inherited two portraits - one is of Mary Peare (nee Ryan) who married Humphreys Peare in 1824 and two of her daughters - I think Mary and Barbara. The other portrait is of their brother Robert Peare b.1832. I know that Robert married Amelia, but I cannot trace their children or his death. Do you have such information? I would be very grateful for any crumbs!
Many thanks.
Hi,
I have found your ancestors in a family tree that a cousin did some years ago. There I can see a Robert Peare and Amelia. On the tree it says Robert was born in 1832 and died in 1861. It doesn't look like they had any children. The lady that did this family tree looks to have been a descendant of Mary Peare and Rev. Lindsay, as the tree is well populated up to the 1970's. I can give you a copy as you may fin it interesting. And shows how they connect to the trunk of the Peare family tree. Also I would be most interested to see the pictures that you have of the family.
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Humphreys Francis Peare died 12 Aug.1888 of Kilmallock, Co.Wexford (widow Alicia Peare)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06165/4762244.pdf
Son Robert Hawtry Peare was the informant.
Marriage Jul-Sep 1872
PEARE Humphreys Francis Barton 8c 769
CREERY Alicia Barton 8c 769
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Death of Alicia (Alice) Peare - 31 July 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05824/4649269.pdf
Will Calendars 1899
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014911/005014911_00214.pdf
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I know that Robert married Amelia…
Robert Henry Peare married Amelia Eleanor Eyre on 22 September 1856 at Rathfarnham Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1856/09509/5446534.pdf
DEATH: Lily Sara Peare (age 78) Apr./June 1949 Rathdrum reg. dist. volume 2 page 526
Died 17 May 1949 at Belfield, Kilpedder. Her daughter Kathleen was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1949/04547/4199520.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/wicklow/newcastle/kilcoole/newcastle-upper/kilpedder-west/
https://arcg.is/TiTDj0 (MapGenie 25 Inch - Basemap Gallery)
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…George Hutchins Peare..My grandmothers mother was Eleanor Wright married to George Hutchins Peare DOB 1833-1875.
FreeBMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriage Oct-Dec 1853
Peare George Hutchins Liverpool 8b 280
Wright Elizabeth Ann Liverpool 8b 280
Marriage 10 October 1853 at St Nicholas Parish Church, Liverpool (see attachment)
Death Jul-Sep 1875
PEARE George Hutchins 41 Liverpool 8b 18
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hi there...
i am currently searching for any information on the Peare family in wexford. My great grandmother was kathleen (catherine) peare, born 1906.
Her father was a John Peare, born 1868, married to an Anastasia Walsh.
His father was also John Peare, born 1836, possibly married to an Anne Delaney.
From there the trail goes cold....
I know there were links to Ballymurn and Kilmallock but not what these connections are. i have read some information regarding Hugenot ancestry and would be very interested in finding out if this is true to the Peare's in my family tree.
thanks,
Lewis.
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Welcome to RootsChat, Lewis :)
Here's your gt gt grandparents in the 1901 census.
John Peare married to 'Stasia' Walsh(e).
House 3 in Bearlough (Rosslare, Wexford).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Rosslare/Bearlough/1802474/
...and their marriage in 1899 (which you may have ;)).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10383/5780820.pdf
KG
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Thank you KG...
I hadnt seen the wedding certificate so that was really good to see, cheers.
Lewis
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My Walsh line is from the vicinity of Kilrane, so I am familiar with OP's Walsh line - no relation as far as I know, though would be interesting if he has done a DNA test?
But first, some details on Peares.
According to the Tagoat parish registers, John Peare, aged 82, of the Burrow, died on 14/2/1914, and is buried in Churchtown, Tagoat - where some of my Hayes ancestors are buried.
This is presumably John Peare senior. The Burrow townland is located here:
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/forth/rosslare/rosslare/burrow/ (https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/forth/rosslare/rosslare/burrow/)
The parish registers have Ann Peare, aged 82, also of the Burrow, listed as dying on 17/3/1907, and is also buried Churchtown. Presumably the wife of John.
The civil registration for her death, also aged 82, and of the Burrow is here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05528/4549737.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05528/4549737.pdf)
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Death of Anastatia Peare (nee Walsh) on 5/3/1943, in the Burrow, Rosslare, aged 75
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1943/04668/4243288.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1943/04668/4243288.pdf)
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Death of John Pear Jun, in the County Hospital, Wexford, 2/2/1943, from Rosslare Strand, railwayman, aged 74.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1943/04668/4243295.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1943/04668/4243295.pdf)
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Marriage of Ellen Peare of the Burrow, apparent sister of John Peare Jr, to Patrick Duggan, 10/10/1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10853/5963076.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10853/5963076.pdf)
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Marriage of James Pear of the Burrow, apparent brother of John Pear Jr, to Anastatia Connor, 6/11/1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10654/5881944.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10654/5881944.pdf)
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Birth registration of John Pear on 12/12/1868, son of John Pear and Ann Delany. Address Rosslare.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03417/2253625.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03417/2253625.pdf)
Note that Rosslare then meant the area now known as Rosslare Strand. The present day Rosslare [Harbor], was not then known as Rosslare at all.
Tagoat parish register record the baptism of John "Pere" on 13/12/1868, parents John Pere and Anne Delaney, address Burrow.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/31/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/31/mode/1up)
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Birth of Ellen Peare 11/2/1865
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/31/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/31/mode/1up)
Birth of James Peare, 12/7/1866
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03516/2293438.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03516/2293438.pdf)
Note that this time the father is described as a fisherman rather than a laborer. This is quite typical for the area - fishing often being a part time occupation in between working on the land.
Birth of William Peare, 28/10/1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03220/2180632.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03220/2180632.pdf)
William Pear died aged "5" 1/8/1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020537/7206846.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020537/7206846.pdf)
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John Pear and Anne Delany, address Burrow, were married in Tagoat, 16/10/1863
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/53/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/53/mode/1up)
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Turning to the Walshes, Richard Walsh married Catherine (Kitty) Wickham in Tagoat on 6/11/1861, address Woodtown.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/52/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/52/mode/1up)
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Richard Walsh and Kitty Wickham would seem to have had 10 children between 1862 and 1881.
All except the first born in the Burrow, while their first child was born Woodtown.
Richard appears to have been mis-transcribed as Robert on one baptism, and William on another - I have not checked the accuracy of the transcriptions versus the originals, or checked versus civil registrations.
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The civil registration for Anastasia Walsh's birth says that she was born on 12/5/1868, and that Richard was a fisherman (see earlier note), address Rosslare (again this means generic Rosslare strand area).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03438/2262283.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03438/2262283.pdf)
However, this date of birth cannot be correct, as "Anty" Walsh was baptized on 6/5/1868, address Borrow!
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/29/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634092#page/29/mode/1up)
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The Walsh and Peare families knew each other before John and Anastasia were married - perhaps obvious, as they lived in the same townland. More particularly, the godmother for Ellen Walsh, baptized 23/4/1881, was Ellen Peare, John's sister.
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There are many more DBM records in both the civil and parish records for the Peares, Walshes, Delaneys and Wickhams. However, at this point I should point out that it is possible that these particular Walsh and Wickham families are ones well known for multi-generational service to the Rosslare lifeboat. Not certain that these are the same families, but possible - something for OP to pursue!
https://rnli.org/find-my-nearest/lifeboat-stations/rosslare-harbour-lifeboat-station/station-history-rosslare (https://rnli.org/find-my-nearest/lifeboat-stations/rosslare-harbour-lifeboat-station/station-history-rosslare)
https://lifeboatmagazinearchive.rnli.org/volume/52/522/obituaries?searchterm=royal+family&page=345 (https://lifeboatmagazinearchive.rnli.org/volume/52/522/obituaries?searchterm=royal+family&page=345)
https://portspastpresent.eu/items/show/562 (https://portspastpresent.eu/items/show/562)
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The FindAGrave site has three records for Peare graves In Tagoat New Cemetery, the latest dated 2014. Addresses include Burrow, Rosslare.
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2290741/memorial-search?firstname=&middlename=&lastname=peare&cemeteryName=St.+Mary%27s+Cemetery&birthyear=&birthyearfilter=&deathyear=&deathyearfilter=&memorialid=&mcid=&linkedToName=&datefilter=&orderby=r&plot=&page=1#sr-203311347 (https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2290741/memorial-search?firstname=&middlename=&lastname=peare&cemeteryName=St.+Mary%27s+Cemetery&birthyear=&birthyearfilter=&deathyear=&deathyearfilter=&memorialid=&mcid=&linkedToName=&datefilter=&orderby=r&plot=&page=1#sr-203311347)
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Just realized that the Peare family in the Burrow in the 1901 census was never posted
John Peare senior, with wife Anne Delaney, plus son James and family.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001294625/ (https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001294625/)
And again in 1911, though John senior is now a widower
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003609539/ (https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003609539/)
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Family of John Peare junior in the 1911 census, in Burrow townland, with wife Anastasia Walsh and children William and Kathleen. Kathleen being OP's great-grandmother (LewisR1982)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003609551/ (https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003609551/)
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Peare death notices on RIP.ie for Co. Wexford
https://rip.ie/death-notice/s/wexford?page=1&surname=peare&start=1993-02-03+00%3A00%3A00&end=today&sortField=a.createdAtCastToDate&sortDir=DESC&view=list (https://rip.ie/death-notice/s/wexford?page=1&surname=peare&start=1993-02-03+00%3A00%3A00&end=today&sortField=a.createdAtCastToDate&sortDir=DESC&view=list)
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The Richard Walsh who received the RNLI medal for the 1954 rescue was born in 1916,
the son of another Richard Walsh, of Rosslare, a fisherman.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01326/1547802.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01326/1547802.pdf)
This second Richard Walsh married Mary Doyle in 1901, and was the son of a third Richard Walsh, fisherman, address Rosslare.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10312/5754078.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10312/5754078.pdf)
This third Richard was born 6/6/1872, and was the son of Richard Walsh and Kitty Wickham.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03232/2184806.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03232/2184806.pdf)
Four Richard Walshes in direct paternal line.
So my earlier guess that OP's Walshes are related to the Rosslare RNLI Walshes is correct.
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Birth registration for OPs great-grandmother Kate (Catherine) Peare was never posted, so here it is. Born 8/4/1906, Burrow, father John a fisherman.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01737/1686567.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01737/1686567.pdf)
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I know there were links to Ballymurn and Kilmallock but not what these connections are.
Lewis.
Lewis,
Not clear what you mean here. Is it that there is a tradition in your own family of a link to those locations? Or is it that you simply noticed that there were Peare families in those locations from browsing on the web?
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Hi wexflyer, thanks for all the links, these definitely firm up a lot of what I had been told by various family members.
Regarding the link to ballymurn and Kilmallock….my great aunt Carrie (daughter of Kathleen peare) told me that she thought her branch of the peares had come originally from ballymurn. I had a little google and did find peares there, especially in relation to a kilmallock house, but could find no connection to those peares and my peares to sure up her original thoughts.
I assume that info was passed down to her in some way but I can find nothing to prove it correct.
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Regarding the link to ballymurn and Kilmallock….my great aunt Carrie (daughter of Kathleen peare) told me that she thought her branch of the peares had come originally from ballymurn. I had a little google and did find peares there, especially in relation to a kilmallock house, but could find no connection to those peares and my peares to sure up her original thoughts.
I assume that info was passed down to her in some way but I can find nothing to prove it correct.
Well, that may be a problem.
For Kilmallock House see
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15703250/kilmallock-house-kilmallock-wexford (https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15703250/kilmallock-house-kilmallock-wexford)
and
http://www.iftn.ie/locationsireland/irishlocationstype/houses/?act1=record&aid=90&force=1&only=1&rid=251&tpl=archive3locations (http://www.iftn.ie/locationsireland/irishlocationstype/houses/?act1=record&aid=90&force=1&only=1&rid=251&tpl=archive3locations)
The Peares of Kilmallock were evidently Protestant minor gentry.
Your Peares were evidently Catholic laborers, originating with John Peare born sometime around the 1830s.
The obvious way to reconcile these differences is that John may have been born on the wrong side of the blanket, as the euphemism goes. And that can be very difficult to document, for several reasons:
- The father of illegitimate children is frequently unnamed.
- More fundamentally, the Crossabeg parish registers filmed by the NLI don't start until 1856, and that for baptisms only. There may be earlier records under local control
One ray of hope is that there is a descendant of these Peares active here on RootsChat - N. Peare, who made post #10 in this thread. He was last online in December. He stated that he has family documentation. Obviously you should contact him - though I doubt anyone would create or keep documentation of such an event! But if you both took DNA tests, this would rapidly establish the truth or otherwise of the story. [And I am interested to see if there is a link on your Walsh side, if you take a test]
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As regards Ballymurn, that is a small village or hamlet adjacent to where Kilmallock House is located, and the name of two townlands. It is also within the parish of Crossabeg, so again, records available online unfortunately don't start until 1856.
Locations of the townlands of Ballymurn Upper and Lower, and Kilmallock
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballymurn-lower/ (https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballymurn-lower/)
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballymurn-upper/ (https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballymurn-upper/)
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/kilmallock/ (https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/kilmallock/)
Kilmallock House is in the townland of Kilmallock, just outside the village of Ballymurn.
That your great-aunt knew of Ballymurn, the area where Kilmallock House is located, lends some credence to the family tradition.
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Just a thought: Illegitimate children were often named for their fathers, by which I mean their Christian name. Not invariably of course, but often enough. So interesting to note that the owner of Kilmallock House in 1844 was a John Peare.
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007250638_01062.pdf (https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007250638_01062.pdf)
In 1833 it was Robert Peare
https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587462/004587462_00398.pdf (https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587462/004587462_00398.pdf)
So John Peare was the young master of the house in the 1830s.
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Again thanks for all the info, it has really given me something to get my teeth into.
In terms of the ballymurn connection, it is food for thought. My great aunt believed that the peares came from France and settled in ballymurn in the 16/17 hundreds and the Rosslare peares were decended from these, although how much of that is true I don’t know. The history of the peare side of the family was pretty scratchy ( until you have wonderfully dug up so much info) but what anyone can recall about them is vague. The kilmallock connection is certainly good for thought though.
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Looks like we may be able to be a little more specific about a potential origin in the Ballymurn district.
Griffith's Valuation for Wexford was published in 1853.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ (https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/)
Looking in Griffith's, I see a James Peare listed in the townland of Ballysilla, directly adjacent to Kilmallock to the east, and to Ballymurn on the south.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballysilla/ (https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/ballaghkeen-south/kilmallock/kilmallock/ballysilla/)
James' holding is no. 18b, a 10.s house, meaning it is a low value mud-walled thatched cottage with just a few rooms. A poor laborer's cottage. At this time there is no Peare in the Rosslare area.
Now, this is just circumstantial, but your John's eldest son was named James, which is consistent with John in turn being the son of James, given Irish naming conventions. And Ballysilla is clearly within the Ballymurn/Kilmallock subdistrict where there is a family origin tradition. So, this seems a plausible origin location for your John.
I still think it likely that your Peares are an offshoot of the gentry family of the same name and same general location. Hard to avoid that conclusion given the rarity of the name. The discovery of James in Ballysilla just pushes back the possible interconnection by a generation.
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One other thing my relative told me was that the family would have been church of Ireland rather than catholic as they are now. Would church of Ireland be Protestant? (Forgive my ignorance when it comes to religion). I assume this is also something that has been passed down orally through generations.
I know records in Ireland aren’t fully complete and some were lost in fires or destroyed during the war, but how far back is it possible to trace a family?
If this James peare is indeed connected would there be any detail on him (marriage record etc) or is that unlikely given it would be in the 1820’s - 1830’s ish?
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If this James peare is indeed connected would there be any detail on him (marriage record etc) or is that unlikely given it would be in the 1820’s - 1830’s ish?
Your direct line were Catholic, as almost certainly was this James in Ballysilla. The parish registers for Crossabeg as microfilmed by the NLI don't start until January 1856, and then only for baptisms.
There appear to be earlier records dating from 1794 under local control.
The Griffith's Valuation record, and associated Valuation Office records may be the only records available online showing that James ever existed. Here is a link for a September 1852 valuation for Ballysilla, showing James Pear with a 10.s house - a prequel to the publication of Griffith's Valuation in 1853.
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246842_00351.pdf (https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246842_00351.pdf)
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One other thing my relative told me was that the family would have been church of Ireland rather than catholic as they are now. Would church of Ireland be Protestant? (Forgive my ignorance when it comes to religion). I assume this is also something that has been passed down orally through generations.
I know records in Ireland aren’t fully complete and some were lost in fires or destroyed during the war, but how far back is it possible to trace a family?
There is no one answer to this question. As for anywhere, it depends.
As for the specific Peare family of Kilmannock House, the user N. Peare who posted on this thread stated that he has an extensive family tree. Have you contacted him, via personal message?
They would have been members of the Church of Ireland, which is Protestant.
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The known status of all Church of Ireland parish registers can be found in a downloadable file at the following site:
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf (https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf)
The CofI parish for Kilmannock/Ballymurn is Kilmallog, diocese of Ferns. BDM records exist from 1813 to 1870/4. As with the early Catholic registers these are not online.
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The earlier church records for Ballymurn/Crossabeg are available on microfilm in Wexford library. The records include marriage and baptism records.There was also a Mary Peare who married Thomas Roche in 1868 in Ballymurn. Mary may have been the daughter of James Peare and Bridget Carroll. Thomas Roche's niece Mary Roche married James Hore in Oilgate, and their granddaughter Alice married William Peare from Rosslare. N Peare should be able to provide more information on the Peare's of Kilmallock house. As a matter of interest the parish was Kilmallock prior to being Ballymurn/Crossabeg.