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Title: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Saturday 11 January 14 20:36 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for any information about my great grandmother, Ada, Saunders, born 1866 in Houghton Regis. I have found her on the 1881 and 1891 census but can find no further information about her or her parents, who I believe were Charles and Elizabeth, possibly of Toddington.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 11 January 14 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hi in 1871 Ada could be the 5 year old Ada SANDERS:-

Elizabeth Sanders 34 Widow occ Straw Plaiiter
Mary Ann 19
Alfred 17
Arthur 8
ADA 5
Joseph 3
Jane 5 months
Residing at High Street, Houghton Regis
All born Houghton Regis
Census Ref RG10/1566/93/17

Death Charles SANDERS Sept qtr 1870 Luton 3b 309 aged 39

PS Welcome to Rootschat!
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 11 January 14 20:54 GMT (UK)
Hi again, in 1861:-

Charles Saunders 24 occ Carter b Toddington (Age looks 29 on original)!
Elizabeth 24
Mary Ann 9
Alfred 7
Residing at Private House, High Street, Houghton Regis
Census Ref RG09/1010/51/12

In 1851 Census Charles SANDERS aged 20 b Chilton/Chalton, is married to a Catherine aged 17 b London, shown as lodgers with a John & Elizabeth Deacon at Drury Lane, Houghton Regis
Census Ref HO107/1757/50/38

Marriage Charles Saunders to possibly Catherine Deacon March qtr 1851 Luton v6 page 119

Death Catherine SANDERS Sept qtr 1857 Luton 3b 254

Marriage to Elizabeth possible:-

Charles Saunders to Elizabeth Long June qtr 1858 Luton 3b 645

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: johnP-bedford on Sunday 12 January 14 15:51 GMT (UK)
As per extracted entry from the IGI...

Baptism of Ada Saunders on 1 Oct 1865 at Houghton Regis, born 7th July, parents Charles & Eliza
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Sunday 12 January 14 16:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks to you both for your prompt and helpful replies. Niw I can fill in a bit more of the jigsaw. :)
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: jan57 on Sunday 12 January 14 17:31 GMT (UK)
 I  presume you  have   details for her  after  1891 census?
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Sunday 12 January 14 17:41 GMT (UK)
No. I have nothing after 1891. there is a death in 1933 but that is for Ada J. Saunders in Bedford and I was unsure if it was her or not.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: janan on Sunday 12 January 14 17:52 GMT (UK)
No. I have nothing after 1891. there is a death in 1933 but that is for Ada J. Saunders in Bedford and I was unsure if it was her or not.

Hi

Welcome to Rootschat :D

To your knowledge Ada never married?

Jan ;)
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 12 January 14 18:17 GMT (UK)
Hi I think Ada possibly married a James Dudley in June qtr 1900 Luton 3b 963 they are at the Red Lion Tap in Church Street, Dunstable in 1901
Census Ref RG13/1512/101/17

Also the marriages of Charles via the IGI site:-

Charles Saunders to Catherine Deacon 10th February 1851 Houghton Regis Father Samuel Saunders
Charles Saunders to Elizabeth Long 9th May 1858 Houghton Regis Grooms Father Samuel Brides Father William Long
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: jan57 on Sunday 12 January 14 18:23 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage 
Marriages Jun 1900   

Coombs  Laura Annie    Luton  3b 963   
Dudley  James     Luton  3b 963   
Jefferd  Frederick Charles     Luton  3b 963   
Saunders  Ada     Luton  3b 963


 Ada    is  possibly  the  second  wife  of  James 
1901 census   Dunstable
James Dudley  40    born Dunstable     Ostler/Groom
 Ada Dudley  35   wife   born Houghton Regis  Beds
 Walter Dudley  21
 Mable Dudley  17
 Albert Dudley  13
 Cyril Dudley  11
 Percy Dudley  9
 Freddy Dudley  6
 Herold Dudley  5
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 12 January 14 18:35 GMT (UK)
 :) Ada's death looks to be:-

Ada Dudley June qtr 1934 Luton 3b 439 aged 68

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: jan57 on Sunday 12 January 14 19:00 GMT (UK)
1891 census   James  and first  wife
23 Union St Dunstable
James Dudley  31............. groom    born Dunstable   
 Amy Dudley  32   wife      born Dunstable 
 Walter Dudley  10
 George Dudley  8
 Mabel Dudley  7
 Albert Dudley  3
 Cyril Dudley  7/12   All children  born Dunstable

 There's  a death    of  Amy Dudley  aged 40  Dec Qtr,  1898 Luton RD
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Sunday 12 January 14 19:12 GMT (UK)
To my knowledge she never married. My grandmother was Lilian May Cartwright Saunders. I have a copy of her birth certificate which gives no name for the father. Family legend has it that Cartwright was his surname.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 12 January 14 19:29 GMT (UK)
To my knowledge she never married. My grandmother was Lilian May Cartwright Saunders. I have a copy of her birth certificate which gives no name for the father. Family legend has it that Cartwright was his surname.

I would suggest therefore Lilian is the illegitimate daughter of Ada, and she married shortly afterwards?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: janan on Sunday 12 January 14 19:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

As far as I can see either Ada must have died before 1901 or she did marry but Lillian May kept the name of Saunders. Lillian appears as May Saunders age 12 in West Ham 1901 niece to Ada's sister Jane and her husband George Court RG13/1572/? Pg40. We can't do 1911 look-ups but she is easy enough to find as Lillian Saunders.

Jan ;)


Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Sunday 12 January 14 19:52 GMT (UK)
May Saunders was brought up with her cousin Millie in West Ham and later Dunstable and Luton. In the 1911 census she is living with her grandmother, Elizabeth Saunders, her aunt Jane Court and her cousins Millicent and Arthur Court. There seems to be no mention of Ada but I believe she was alive until at least 1927 as my mother remembers her.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Sunday 12 January 14 19:53 GMT (UK)
I'd like to add you guys are brilliant and really helpful. Many, many thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: janan on Sunday 12 January 14 20:02 GMT (UK)
Ada Dudley born 1866 died Luton District 1934 Vol3b, pg439

Jan ;)

Sorry Keyboard86 I didn't notice you'd already posted this death  :-[
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: groom on Monday 13 January 14 17:54 GMT (UK)
An online tree has her marrying James Dudley in 1900 in Bedfordshire. If this is correct you need to be looking for an Ada Dudley after that, not an Ada Saunders.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: groom on Monday 13 January 14 18:03 GMT (UK)
Sorry - info posted previously
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Monday 13 January 14 18:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway - your help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 13 January 14 18:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway - your help is much appreciated.

Hi again, the only concern I have re Ada is that your mother remembers her to at least 1927, surely she would have known whether married or not?

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Looking for Ada Saunders
Post by: Roger the Saurus on Monday 13 January 14 19:12 GMT (UK)
My grandmother was brought up by her aunt. I get the impression Ada did not have a great deal to do with her daughter. This may well have helped her marry eventually.