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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: brina on Sunday 12 January 14 13:45 GMT (UK)
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I would love to know where the MacEwen's Buildings in Callander are/were. I have tried to find re google but no luck so maybe they no longer exist. My great great grandfather, James Stevenson died there so just curious to find out. Many thanks.
Brina :)
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Scottish PO Directories
http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office
Try searching the "Stirling" Directory
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You may find an appropriate map which has the buildings marked:
http://maps.nls.uk/
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I have tried both suggestions. I had already tried the NLS to no avail. Should I move this to the Stirling section. Did consider this in the first instance.
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Brina,
Just incase there is some mis-understanding....
Callander is in Perthshire
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Do you know where James Stevenson was living in the 1891 census?
I know it is possible to do an address search on some of the pay sites, however not sure if this also applies to Scottish records?
If you can find MacEwen's Buildings in the 1891 census, and check the neighbouring area this might give you a better idea where it was (you may find streets that still exist for example, to give you an area to focus on).
That is my technique for finding addresses in England anyway. ;)
Scotland may cause problems as you have to purchase the census and the pay sites only have transcriptions .... someone may have more knowledge of this than I do. :-\
[Was your James married to Susan, and living Main St Callender in 1891?]
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Thank you everyone for your kind responses. The James Stevenson I am referring to was married to Susan. In 1891 census they were living in Main Street and previously at Bridgend.
I mentioned Stirling as Callendar appears in the Stirling directory but I realise that Callander is in Perthshire, but thank you for that.
Will do a bit more digging to find out what happen to susan their daughter who appeRs to have lived at home with them.
Many thanks.
Brina :)
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Callander is covered in the Stirling Directories.
There is an entry in the 1881-82 Stirling Directory under "Callander" for "Macewen & Co, D & J, grocers and wine merchants, Main Street".
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And where were Susan and daur Susan living in 1901? Still in Main Street?
Considering hanes teulu's directory find, I wonder if MacEwan's Buildings on Main St would have been shops on ground level with accommodation above?
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"Walked" Main Street, Callander on Streetview checking on the off chance that one of the buildings might be inscribed "Macewen Buildings - no such luck (but can now tell you where Struan House is!!).
D & J Macewen advertised extensively regarding the letting of property eg The Glasgow Herald, May 1890 -
"Callandar - Furnished houses and Lodgings - Information given free by D & J Macewen & Co, family grocers" They also advertised specific properties as agents.
Wondered if they leased part of their business premises in Callandar as family accommodation??
Can find James on the '91 Census on FindMyPast but their address search facility does not extend to Scottish addresses.
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I suspected that would be the case regarding being unable to search Scottish addresses.
Is there a local library or local history group who may have access to or knowledge of the local records and perhaps be able to find the location of MacEwan's Buidlings?
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Hi All
I haven't viewed Valuation Rolls for this area/year so not sure what else may be included on the page/image to help with location of MacEwan's Buildings.
There are two entries showing on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk on the 1895 Valuation Rolls in Callander with the place ref of 'mcewans'. I haven't viewed the entries so don't know what surname(s) are showing there (but they are not M*Ew*n* or Ste*).
a/try won't help for 1891. Their transcript of 1891 shows a big McEwen household in Callander headed up by a Daniel McEwen, whose occupation is given as Grocer Leed Grain Swoolmerdant (grocer seed grain and wool merchant?!) with the family living at Leng The Kraesalt...can't even begin to guess with that one can we ::)
Monica
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Had seen various references to "Macewen, The Krausult" in both Scottish PO Directories and newspapers on line.
Did wonder whether Scottish Trade directories - NOT available on line - at NLS might be worth checking out.
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Hi hanes teulu
Did see this one for 1886-87 http://www.archive.org/stream/stirlingshirebur188687dun#page/152/mode/2up The NLS PO directories for these areas are pretty much trade directories aren't they. Unlinke Glasgow and Edinburgh, for example, where you could find just standard residential addresses, these one are pretty much for local notaries and trade.
Learnt from the first page for Callander that Daniel McEwen was also the postmaster...busy man!
Also, the ref that you have found to "Macewen, The Krausult" was the name of a property? 1881 shows the McEwens at Kraesult Villa in Callander.
Monica :)
PS: Brina, sorry, this so far doesn't help further as to where exactly the MacEwen's Building in Callander was....
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Re Directories - noticed in the NLS catalogue that the Trade Directories were listed separately to PO Directories. PO Directories included a link to an on line site - no such link for Trade Directories.
Had seen many references to "The Kraesult" eg.
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"At the Kraesult, Callander, on the 1st inst, aged 14 1/2 months, Maggie Auld, youngest child of Daniel MacEwen" (Dundee Courier 21 Dec 1883")
which pointed to a property rather than a "place".
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That all makes good sense, hanes teulu. I think we are just missing the very detailed map for Callander for this period, Main Street most likely. You know what the Glasgow and Edinburgh maps are like for the detail for this type for property search. I think, online, Callander is much too small (under 2,300 people living there in 1891) to get the detail here that Brina needs.
Likely www.burnsmonumentcentre.co.uk/20/archives_family_and_local_history/ would be able to help with maps etc but these would be searches done at the centre. Maybe an email request could help?
Monica
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You have all seen very kind, many thanks. I was just curious to find out where MacEwens Buildings are/were in Callander. I hoped that someone local might know. I think you are correct Monica in that Callander was just too small at that time for detailed maps, although the town I live in did. James was a gardener and died when he was only 57. It may mean nothing but I was interested to note that his daughter Susan did not get married until after he died, she was always recorded as Help at Home. I have only today managed to find out that she married and when she died.
James's wife Susan also, died in 1912 at Kincardine. James's occupation as a gardener might have meant that he workeda s a gardener for a big house in the area or maybe just a market garden. Might find out one day.
Thanks again.
Brina :)
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Brina, I may not have worded it well ;) There will very likely be old maps for Callander, just not available to view easily online like some of the major Scottish cities. You could make an email enquiry to follow up at the Burns Monument Centre on the link above. I am sure that the archives there will have access to historical maps for the local areas.
Monica
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"Old maps" http://old-maps.co.uk/index.html
Enter coordinates 263036 707800
When all maps loaded, click on 1863 map for a view of Main Street.
When 1863 map loaded in main window click on main window (anywhere except red Enhanced Zoom box) to zoom.
The 1866 and 1900 maps also provide a detailed view.
But without being able to "walk" main street on the Census and identify possible reference points, no further forward!!
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Hi Brina,
The attached photograph was printed in the July/August 2013 edition of the 'Ben Ledi View' - Callander's community newspaper.
From Google Street View, you'll see that the building facade has since changed and it now houses William Hill bookmakers and Taj Indian restaurant, with the door in the centre (showing number 23) leading to the flats upstairs.
Hope this helps,
Andy
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Hi Andy,
Brilliant, this helps enormously, thank you so much. Seems a bit strange that an ordinary gardener was living there as it looks quite a grand building. I like the photo and I have been able to blow it up a bit.
So now I know where he lived. Thank you Andy.
Brina :)
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On Ancestry it is possible to "walk" the census by using registration number / ED /household schedule number set to exact with no names.
For 1891
Schedule No
20 Commercial Bank
21 Crown Hotel
22 Tyndrum House
23-25 Main Street
26 Cruachan House
27- Cross Street
If you have viewed the entry on ScotlandsPeople click on the "View Free Header" to get a description of the coverage of the enumeration district.
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Carlineric, thank you for this advice, I will give it a try.
Brina :)
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On Ancestry it is possible to "walk" the census by using registration number / ED /household schedule number set to exact with no names.
Need to try this! With FreeCen entries, it is easy, as you just click previous/next households. Didn't know you could get close to this for Ancestry, so will have a go.
Monica
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I was born in Callander. The MacEwans greengrocers shop was still there until about 1980 I think - then it became a Victoria Wine. I know that I have seen a postcard online for sale showing the front of the shop with the MacEwan family standing outside. There are a couple of storeys of flats up above.