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Can someone please locate Daniel Hurley on the 1901 census born circa 1898, Roath, Cardiff. Sorry for the lack of detail but that’s all I have.
Thanks
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Can someone please locate Daniel Hurley on the 1901 census born circa 1898, Roath, Cardiff. Sorry for the lack of detail but that’s all I have.
Thanks
Hi Roy,
Daniel Hurley, birth registered in Cardiff MarQ 1900, resident at 68 Bedford St, Roath, with parents James (26, coal trimmer) and Margaret (25), and brother James (3). All born in Cardiff. (RG13 piece 4974 folio 24 page 39).
Deirdre
PS.... my grandfather was a 5 year old living with his family at number 95!
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James Hurley married Margaret Donovan in Cardiff, DecQ 1896.
Margaret died in 1910 aged 34.
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Looks like James is at 12 Sandon Place (RG11 piece 5278 folio 9 page 12) in 1881...
HURLEY, James, Head, Married, M, 36, 1845, General Labourer, Ireland
HURLEY, Florence, Wife, Married, F, 30, 1851, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
HURLEY, James, Son, Single, M, 6, 1875, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
HURLEY, Mary, Daughter, Single, F, 4, 1877, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
HURLEY, David, Son, Single, M, 2, 1879, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
HURLEY, Annie, Daughter, Single, F, 0, 1881, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
MC CARTHY, John, Lodger, Single, M, 23, 1858, General Labourer, Ireland
MURPHY, James, Lodger, Single, M, 24, 1857, General Labourer, Ireland
Same address in 1891 (RG12 piece 4391 folio 18 page 29), though Florence is now Honora :-\
HURLEY, James, Head, Married, M, 43, 1848, Coal Trimmer, Ireland
HURLEY, Honora, Wife, Married, F, 38, 1853, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, James, Son, M, 16, 1875, General Labourer, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Mary, Daughter, F, 14, 1877, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, David, Son, M, 11, 1880, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Annie, Daughter, F, 10, 1881, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Michael, Son, M, 8, 1883, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Cornelius, Son, M, 7, 1884, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Timothy, Son, M, 5, 1886, Scholar, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
HURLEY, Denis, Son, M, 3, 1888, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
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Hi Deirdre
Thank you for the details, what a coincidence your grandfather living in the same street.
Kind Regards, Roy
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Please note I believe Daniel Hurley was born circa 1893 and not 1898 as incorrectly stated per initial post and could be the Daniel Hurley, boarder, 18, Cardiff, residing in the household of Tom Collins, Rhymney. His details on Soldiers Died in the Great War list his birthplace as Roath, enlisted Pontlottyn.
Thanks
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Hi Roy,
Can't find one born around 1893 sorry. Not many Daniel Hurleys and can't find even one listed as Daniell as on the SDGW.
Keep being drawn back to this one though: A bit older but there is a Daniel Hurley, born Rumney, Monmouthshire, in 1878, living in 3 Arthur Street, Roath, in 1901 (RG13 piece 4974 folio 180 page 41). Listed as a boarder in the household of David Hurley (also born Rumney, Monmouthshire).
Looks like this Daniel is still in Cardiff in 1911, b 1873 ::), but still listed as born Rumney, Monmouthshire. Now married with 6 children. I appreciate there's no link to Pontlottyn though, just thought I'd mention it :-\
Good luck!
Deirdre
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Hi Deirdre
Well I have to say you have worked extremely hard on this one; interesting details but without the connection to Pontlottyn its difficult to call. I've been at it all day and beginning to get a sore neck and numb fingers so I had better call it a day.
Many many thanks for your time and efforts, both are very much appreciated.
Regards, Roy
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Hi Roy,
I've found Daniel's medal roll index card (if you haven't already seen it). Same details (Welsh regiment, 19314, killed in action 10-Jul-1916) as on the CWGC and SDGW listings, other than just the one 'l' in his name.
No other details though sorry.
Deirdre
PS He appears on the forces war records site too (private, Welsh regiment, named spelt with 2 'll's). I don't have a subscription though so can't see if there are any more details.
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Can someone please locate Daniel Hurley on the 1901 census born circa 1898, Roath, Cardiff. Sorry for the lack of detail but that’s all I have.
Thanks
This is what we have at Forces War Records:
First Name:
Daniell
Initials:
D
Surname:
Hurley
Birth Town:
Roath, Glamorgan
Resided Town:
Pontlottyn, Glamorgan
Nationality:
British
Date of Death:
10/07/1916
Fate:
Killed in Action
Rank:
Private
Service Number:
19314
Duty Location:
France And Flanders
Campaign Medals:
Victory Medal
victory medalLike many service personnel of World War One, Daniell Hurley was entitled to the Victory medal, also called the Inter Allied Victory Medal. This medal was awarded to all who received the 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star and, with certain exceptions, to those who received the British War Medal. It was never awarded alone. These three medals were sometimes irreverently referred to as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred.
Eligibility for this award consisted of having been mobilised, fighting, having served in any of the theatres of operations, or at sea, between midnight 4th/5th August, 1914, and midnight, 11th/12th November, 1918. Women who served in any of the various military organisations in a theatre of operations were also eligible.
British War Medal
british war medalAs with many Armed Forces personnel, Daniell Hurley was entitled to the British War Medal for service in World War One. This British Empire campaign medal was issued for services between 5th August 1914 and 11th November 1918.
The medal was automatically awarded in the event of death on active service before the completion of this period.
Service:
British Army
Regiment:
Welsh Regiment
Battalion:
13th Battalion
Commemorated:
Britain
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Thanks very much DH999, does say residence Pontlottyn but otherwise no further details.
Deirdre
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Thanks very much DH999, does say residence Pontlottyn but otherwise no further details.
Deirdre
Yes, that's all the site has. Hopefully the extra info will allow you to break down some walls using other sites as well.
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Hi Deidre
Nothing new there; to be honest I had a trial run on Forces War Records and I wasn't that impressed, in as much, for the persons I was researching at the time, they had the same records available on ancestry and findmypast, I was not finding anything I didn't already know; so I cancelled my subscription. That said, I never turn away a gift horse, and was hoping your contact would come up with something we could use to progress the search.
Thank you for trying, words come cheap I know, but I truly appreciate your help.
Regards, Roy
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Hi Deidre
Nothing new there; to be honest I had a trial run on Forces War Records and I wasn't that impressed, in as much, for the persons I was researching at the time, they had the same records available on ancestry and findmypast, I was not finding anything I didn't already know; so I cancelled my subscription. That said, I never turn away a gift horse, and was hoping your contact would come up with something we could use to progress the search.
Thank you for trying, words come cheap I know, but I truly appreciate your help.
Regards, Roy
That's OK Roy, I didn't mind looking for you either!
This is the problem we come up against at FWR as we have finite resources like everyone else, if we don't have the records others have we get the comments "They only have what x has" and if we do other exclusive collections we get "They haven't even got what x has got"
You can't win, but we try our best with the ONLY UK based transcription team run by a genealogy site.
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Hello DH999
I didn't mean to be unkind in my comments, I'm sure you are doing a grand job, as mentioned, it just so happens on the persons I was researching at the time there were no extra details, and frustration crept in. I am part of a small team trying our best to research the names on the war memorials in the old parish of Gelligaer for the Centenary in August and with time running out, I get a little disapointed when I can't find information.
I am truly grateful to you and the many members of Rootschat.
Kind Regards, Roy
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Hello DH999
I didn't mean to be unkind in my comments, I'm sure you are doing a grand job, as mentioned, it just so happens on the persons I was researching at the time there were no extra details, and frustration crept in. I am part of a small team trying our best to research the names on the war memorials in the old parish of Gelligaer for the Centenary in August and with time running out, I get a little disapointed when I can't find information.
I am truly grateful to you and the many members of Rootschat.
Kind Regards, Roy
That's OK Roy, I was talking a little bit tongue in cheek anyhow! :)
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Hi Roy,
I posted on the Glamorgan FHS Facebook page to see if anyone could help. They mainly found what you had already but there was a newspaper item listing recent enlistements. Could this be him?
Aberdare Leader, 11 Sep 1915, aticle entitled 'War Mems from the Mount'...
...Daniel Hurley, 36 Arthur Street.
Deirdre
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Looking at the article that Daniel Hurley seems to be living in Arthur St, Mountain Ash when he enlisted, so possibly not relevant
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Hello, perhaps I can help.
Daniel Hurley was my grandfather's little brother. My grandfather, William Hurley, also fought in WW1, as did his, and Daniel's other brother Tom ( who I believe died of wounds in Egypt). My grandfather fought in Egypt, I have his records and my grandmother used to say he would cry everytime he heard the song 'Danny Boy'. Daniel died at dawn in the Battle of Mametz Wood. No known grave.
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Here is a picture of Daniel
My email you now have if you'd like to get in touch with me
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This is my grandfather, William Hurley, Daniel's brother
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Hello Kevin
Thanks for getting in touch, I've made note of your email and I will make contact- I think it wise if you delete your email from the message.
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Roy, are you still collecting information on war memorial names?
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Hi Ozlady
The answer is Yes; for war memorials (WW1 & WW2) within the old Gelligaer parish - Bargoed & Gilfach, Brithdir, Pontlottyn, Gelligaer, Tir-y-Berth, Deri, Tirphil, Troedrhiwfuwch, Ystrad Mynach & Hengoed, Trelewis and Bedlinog.
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Pontlottyn War Memorial.
PRICE M.R.
Morgan Rees Price, born 15/1/1894. Son of Richard Price, coalminer and Lavinia Ann (nee Brannan).
12, Iron Court, Pontlottyn.
2nd Battalion SWB. Sgt. 18513.
K.I.A. 10/11/17. Flanders.
Commemorated at Tyne Cot Cemetery, Belgium.
There is a beautiful Welsh oak chair dedicated to him in St. Tyfaelog's church.
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Hi
I already covered M.R. Price but thank you for taking the trouble of sending the details.
Regards
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Daniel Hurley was my Grandad's brother and I would love to speak to anyone who knows something about him. Some of the information above is incorrect.
Daniel, one L not two LL's, was the youngest brother of my Grandad William John Hurley. He had 2 other brother's James who died in Egypt during the first world war and Thomas who I sadly know little of. His parents were Patrick and Rachel Hurley.
Best wishes,
Kevin
Professor Kevin Mills