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Title: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: LottieD on Saturday 25 January 14 22:15 GMT (UK)
I got this marriage on RootsIreland.

Date of Marriage: 04-Mar-1855
Parish/District: MANORHAMILTON MARRIAGE BANNS.
County: Leitrim

                      Husband            -  Wife
Name:             John McCormack -  Bridget Christy
Address:          Innismagrath      -  Innismagrath
Denomination:  RC                    -  RC

I was a wee bit disappointed that the parent's names were not on there but I'll leave that headache for another day :)

John and Bridget had 5 children...

Myles    1861
John     1864 Registration District: Drumkeeran
Bridget  1867 Registration District: Drumkeeran
Thomas 1869 Registration District: Drumkeeran
Anne     1872 Registration District: Drumkeeran.  Address: Greyfield, Innismagrath.

The family move to Glasgow sometime after 1872 and all but John Jr and Anne appear on the 1891 Census.

My problem is Myles, my G Granda, I cannot find a birth or baptism for him at all, which is strange as the others are all on RI and FS.  In all likelyhood, he was born in the same place as his siblings but I hate loose ends and thought I'd turn to you guys.

Also, I'll be visiting Drumkeeran soon, would the local church provide the information of a baptism do you think?

Thanks for reading.



 
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: mmcpadden1 on Saturday 25 January 14 22:54 GMT (UK)

Hi Lottie,
There are many years of the Church Records in Innismagrath missing.
The surviving records are held by the Genealogy Centre,Ballinamore,Co.Leitrim.
According to their info.the surviving records are as follows :
Baptisms  : 1834 - 1839 + 1881 - 1899
Marriages  : 1834 -1839 + 1881 - 1889
Deaths       : 1834 - 1839

Those gaps cover many of the years you are researching.

As you may know Civil Reg.began in Ireland in 1864.
Certs.can be ordered online.
Should you want to visit the Reg.Office while you are in Drumkeerin it is in Carrick on Shannon
at the Primary Care Offices,Leitrim Rd.
This is 20 mls.approx.from Drumkeerin.

 Good Luck  : Maura

                                       
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 25 January 14 22:56 GMT (UK)
Most RC marriage records for that period do not list parents' names.
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: LottieD on Saturday 25 January 14 23:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for that information, that explains it then.  I was convincing myself that I was just not searching correctly.

Births/Baptisms 1834 - 1839 fits around John and Bridget's birth so that is promising.  Would these records be searchable at the Reg. Office?
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 25 January 14 23:33 GMT (UK)
Civil registration of births started 1864
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: LottieD on Saturday 25 January 14 23:38 GMT (UK)
Ah yeah, sorry, shouldn't have put that Births/ bit in  ::)
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 26 January 14 00:15 GMT (UK)
Civil registration dates-
 1864- births, deaths & Catholic marriages
 1845- non-Catholic marriages

Anything before these dates are church records and will either be in archives or local custody (not registry office)

Not sure about Leitrim but in Northern Ireland Registry offices only have marriage registers (no births or death)
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 January 14 00:29 GMT (UK)
Date of Marriage: 04-Mar-1855
Parish/District: MANORHAMILTON MARRIAGE BANNS.
County: Leitrim

                      Husband            -  Wife
Name:             John McCormack -  Bridget Christy
Address:          Innismagrath      -  Innismagrath
Denomination:  RC                    -  RC

I was a wee bit disappointed that the parent's names were not on there but I'll leave that headache for another day :)

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First of all you could read this thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=670189.0 and make up your own mind about the reliability of what you have! 

I'm just wondering if it was just the Banns being read out in Drumkeeran as it is one of the churches in the Parish as is Dromahaire. My understanding is that Banns were read out across the parish so it might be worth asking about this...

If you are looking at g/stones....There are 2 cemeteries, one at church and one nearby on road TO Dromahaire which one can easily miss! If you are driving then you will see the 80 km/hr sign when leaving town...immediately indicate left at 80 km sign and about 30 yards you will come across a very narrow road and cemetery is down that road, you cannot miss it.

As for records it depends on the Priest!!
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: LottieD on Sunday 26 January 14 00:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much Hallmark, I will be visiting the cemeteries so that information is really very helpful.

Funny enough, I just read that thread yesterday, not good :(  The banns for this marriage are listed as Mannorhamilton and not Drumkeeran, I'm not really sure what it should be to be honest. 

Thanks aghadowey, that is good to know. 
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 26 January 14 01:42 GMT (UK)
No problem, but you will need to drive very slowly or you will miss the side road......
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: mmcpadden1 on Wednesday 05 February 14 18:43 GMT (UK)

Lottie,while you are in Drumkeeran the two old cemeteries you may wish to visit are Aughacloghy,on the Manorhamilton Rd.to the left.A previous post has stated exactly where its located.
The other is Kilbride on the Dowra Rd.,abt.5 mls.from Drumkeerin on right hand side.
This is beside the old ruined church.

However you may well find few old headstones for pre 1900 + up to 1940s.
I have visited many cemeteries over the years on behalf of others & I am very familiar with Kilbride as my ancestors are buried there.
Of course there is now a headstone.
You will find many flags (Low flat stones)marking graves.
If there was ever an inscription it has been eroded on most.
The reason being that most people couldn't afford a headstone at that time.

The Leitrim Genealogy Centre,Ballinamore for any possible Church Records is email : info@leitrimroots.com
Tel. 00353 964 4012

The clergy no longer are involved in Genealogy Queries.

The County Library may be another source of info.
Email for there :ballinamorelibrary@leitrimcoco.ie

Direct to Local Studies at Library is : mconnefrey@leitrimcoco.ie

Drumkeeran is a small village with Main Rd.going through one way to Carrick on Shannon other direction to Manorhamilton.
Dowra Rd. is at a junction in village.
If coming from Ck on Shannon its on right hand side.
You will find everyone very friendly & most helpful.

Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 05 February 14 18:59 GMT (UK)
"re; The other is Kilbride on the Dowra Rd.,abt.5 mls.from Drumkeerin on right hand side.
This is beside the old ruined church....."

Is that out to right at cross roads in village?? Never noticed an old church out that way...is it close to road?  Thanks.
Title: Re: McCormack/Christy Drumkeeran
Post by: LottieD on Wednesday 05 February 14 23:24 GMT (UK)
mmcpadden1, thank you very much for your help.  I am in Boyle now and went to Drumkeeran on Monday, lovely wee place. 

I went to St Brigid's Church and found 2 Christy graves there and one for a Myles Thomas Woods, who I am sure is also related, I just have to join the dots.  I also went to the one just outside of the Village and found nothing there. I imagine as you said, they may well not have had the money back in the 1800's for headstones and I'll just have to be happy that I visited the village where they came from and figure out how the other Christys fit in to mine.

My Dad used to visit family in Knockvicar when he was a wee boy, around the mid 1940's.  It could only have been McCormacks or Christys so tomorrow I will don my wellies and have a look at the cemeterys there, my Husband is so patient lol.