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Title: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Tuesday 04 February 14 06:51 GMT (UK)
Hello,  My ancestors the Simmons were lacemakers in Nottingham - has anyone come across them.  Thank you, Lesley
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 04 February 14 07:43 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat Lesley.
Are you looking to make contact with other descendants, or to find out more about your Simmons? It might help if give us names, places and dates etc. so anyone who may have an interest in the same family will know if there is a connection.

This might be of interest:
http://surname.rootschat.com/sit-surnames.php?letter=S
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 04 February 14 09:56 GMT (UK)
There are 209 baptisms of Simmons on NFHs, 155 of Simons so you need to give some names please.
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Wednesday 05 February 14 03:12 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Simmons direct line in Nottinghamshire

Stringer Simmonds b. c1703 d. 1711 - burial St. Marys' Nottingham
Thomas Simmonds b.  1724  d. 1794 - burial St. Mary's Nottingham
Charles Simmons b. c1753 - d. 1828
Charles Victor Simmons Jnr. b. c1790 - d. 10.6.1853 North Muskham, Near Neward-Upon-Trent.
Charles Simmons b. c.1811 - d.2.10.1872 Sydney, Australia.
Thanks, Lesley

Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 February 14 05:52 GMT (UK)
You seem to have traced the family quite a long way back.

Is there anything specific you need help with, or are you just hoping meet others related to the same Simmon/ds? :-\
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: sunflower on Wednesday 05 February 14 08:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

There are 2 burials & 4 marriages for Stringer on the Notts FHS CD

Burials
29.12.1740 Stringer Simmonds
2.4. 1771 Stringer Symonds

Marriages
1.4. 1723 Stringer Simmons to Sarah Walker
2.11.1738 Stringer Simmonds to Elizabeth Widdowson
29.1. 1743 Stringer Simmonds to Mary Hallam
26.10. 1760 Stringer Symonds to Mary Berkin

All at St Marys

Carol
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 05 February 14 08:26 GMT (UK)
When you say 'direct line' how does this Stringer fit in?


Stringer Simmonds b. c1703 d. 1711 - burial St. Marys' Nottingham


He died aged 8? So, he's an offshoot of your direct line rather than a direct ancestor?  :-\

Looking at the deaths and marriages provided by Carol, there are a number of Stringer Si/ymmon/ds? Great unusual name - every likelihood they are related.

Let us know if you need help with anyone or anything specific. :)
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Saturday 08 February 14 06:06 GMT (UK)
Hi, Sorry I meant that Stringer died 1771 he was about 68 yrs.  Yes, I have done the bdm. years ago but I can't find anything about them re the lacemaking in Nottingham.  There are stories written that when the Industrial Revolution came with so many of the Simmons family in the lacemaking that they all had to learn another trade.  My Charles came to Australia, another brother and his mother after the death of his father also.  Another brother went to Utah and a great deal written about he and his family as before leaving the UK they changed their religion and became Mormons.
I am new to this site and after posting the first note I received an email telling me that there was a reply.  However, I just popped in know to have a look at the site and see other letters to me - so I apologise for not thanking everyone who is trying to help me.  Does it mean that you check this site each day as you don't get an email advising there is a message?
Thank you all, Lesley
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 08 February 14 07:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesley,
Yes you should get an email notifying you that there has been a reply to a thread you started, or a thread that you have contributed to.  :) When you sign up there is an option to receive emails.
If you receive lots of replies, you can receive lots of emails. You don't have to check every day  - only when you get an email.
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 08 February 14 07:12 GMT (UK)
There's a history of Nottingham lace-making here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/work/england/nottingham/article_1.shtml
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Sunday 09 February 14 06:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your replies, will look into them.....Lesley :D
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: leyleinoz on Friday 04 April 14 17:03 BST (UK)
Well, how's this for coincidence - I am another direct descendant of Stringer Simmons, in exactly the same line as you as far as Charles - and I'm a Lesley too.  Charles Simmons daughter Charlotte was my great grandmother.  What sort of cousin does that make us?
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: leyleinoz on Friday 04 April 14 17:22 BST (UK)
The record of the NABOB  shows Charles came with his wife and her sister, Ann, not his mother, and his brother Samuel.  The record for Charles says both his parents were still alive - his father died in 1852, his mother in 1863.   Mary's parents were both dead.  Mary gave birth on board on January 18, the baby died 7 days later, and when they arrived in Sydney on February 21  the record shows that Mary was "confined in a dangerous state".  They had a daughter, Sarah Ann, born in England in 1837, she was alive when they arrived in Sydney but there is nothing I can find about her after that.
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Saturday 05 April 14 01:43 BST (UK)
hi Lesley, what a coincidence we are named the same.  :)  Are you based in Australia too?  Yes I have the Nabob papers as well.  Charlotte, his mother came out later (after the death of her husband Charles Victor Simmons Jnr) with her son George and they both died here.  Can give you dates if you do not have them.  George married out here and had two children.  Thanks for answering. Lesley
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: leyleinoz on Saturday 05 April 14 08:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for the tip re Charlotte and George.  I have found them, but not their ship.  Do you know what that was?  I would love confirmation of the death dates.  Charlotte 1862 in Camperdown? George in 1930 in Canterbury?


I'm in Perth.  My grandmother was Ida May Theresa,  the daughter of Charlotte Simmons (daughter of Charles and Mary) and George Dray.  She and her sister Clara came to Western Australia in 1896 when Ida was 15.  She married George Mitchell in Cue in 1905.

I gather you are in Australia too.... East or west?
L.
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: lesleyandrobert on Saturday 05 April 14 09:00 BST (UK)
Hi L.,I am in Port Macquarie NSW. The ship that Charlotte and George came out on was the "Araminta" arriving 29.7.1854.  Charlotte died 18.1.1862 13 Brisbane St. Sydney and buried 21.1.1862 Baptist Cemetery Sydney.  George married Helen Finlayson 1857 Victoria had a son and daughter (shows on his death certificate). Died 12.3.1930 19 Kennedy Ave Belmore Sydney and buried 14.3.1930 C of E Cemetery Rookwood.  Hope this is of help to you.  All the best, Lesley
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: leyleinoz on Saturday 05 April 14 09:28 BST (UK)
Port Macquarie... I know it quite well.  My sister lives at Scott's Head and my parents lived at Clybucca for a few years before my mother died.  Small world.
Lesley2
Title: Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
Post by: 1560rick on Monday 01 June 20 05:04 BST (UK)
Hi Lesley,

My ancestors are the Nottingham Simmons family. My Great great grandfather was Henry Simmons. He is the Mormon convert mentioned in your post. Along with his wife Catherine, and I think 3? daughters they moved to Utah on one of the Mormon treks. More children in Utah, one of which was my great grandfather Joseph Simmons, who had children born in Canada, which is where I am located. They worked as tanners in London and also in Utah.

Anyway I noticed this fellow has traced back maybe one or two generations further if you are still looking.

https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-218444311/brigman

Rick Simmons