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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: mrs a on Sunday 09 February 14 21:52 GMT (UK)
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Am looking for any info on James Fawcett born approx. 1915 to Marion Fawcett nee Campbell poss out of wedlock. There is another child of that name who did not survive. Brother/ sisters Thomas, Robert, Alexander(Sandy) , Marion and Jenny
Exact dob 22 feb 1913, surname Campbell or Fawcett but I would think he used Fawcett. Can't find death record in Scotland's people so assume he did not die in Scotland. He was in WWII but returned from war.
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Hi mrs a,
I have looked at the 22 February 1913 birth of James Fawcett, he maybe the one that did not survive. He was listed as illegitimate, but his mother was Marion Campbell who was an Outworker, who was the widow of Robert Fawcett, who was a Colliery Fireman, who died at West Calder on 5th December 1909. He died 5th Dec 1909, of pneumonia and cardiac failure. The certificate says he had been married to Marion Campbell, who signed the death certificate as a widow.
Tom
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Hi all,
In the 1901 census at 34 Watt St, West Calder, Robert Fawcett was a 28yo Coal Hewer , wife was Marion 24yo, children were 5yo John, 2yo ThomasThomas and Robert Braind Fawcett was 1 month old. So when Robert died in 1909, Marion was a young widow of 32, and had at lease 3 children, we would need to check the 1911 census to find out exact number of kids.
Tom
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thanks 'Tidybooks'
The surviving Jimmy, I believe, joined the army, survived and returned but then disappeared and there was no family contact , as he was born after Marion was widowed, he is most likely illegitimate
Have just seen birth cert, which is 22 feb 1913 but can't find death on Scotland's people so I assume he didn't die in Scotland
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are you sure the james campbell on the birth dated cert feb 1913 , is not the one who died in sept 1914at blackburn west lothian aged 18 months old and is buried with marion lawson fawcett 32 auchenhard terr stoney burn at west calder, born 1887 there is 5 family members in grave big nanook
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it appears that the James born 22nd Feb is the one who didn't survive. However. I haven't found the surviving James (Jimmy) birth details. Any help much appreciated
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Hi Mrs A,
There are no other James Fawcett's registered at that period, I did a search on Scotland Peoples website from 1910 to 1920, the only one in West Lothian was the 22 Feb 1913 one. So with Robert Fawcett dying in 1909, another birth in 1915 is 6 years after his death. Maybe he was named after his natural father then, which would make things more difficult to come up with a name.
Tom
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Hi Mrs A,
I went back the way, and I found the 1898 marriage of Robert Faucett (sic) to Marion Lawson Campbell on 16th Dec 1898 at Addiewell, he was a 26yo Stoker and Marion was a 22yo Domestic Servant. This ties up with the death certificate that I found. Robert's parents were John Fawcett (deceased) and Janet Fawcett MS Fawcett. I will check that out later. Marion's parents were Thomas Campbell and Marion Campbell MS Torbett.
Tom
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thanks Tom
From my research so far I have that Marion Fawcett nee Campbell already had a son, John Inglis Campbell born 1895 before her marriage to Robert Fawcett.
Other children were
Thomas
Robert 1903
Marion,
Janet
Kate
Alexander
Mary
James
As Marion was widowed in 1909, there were a few children born out of wedlock!
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Hi Mrs A,
I was thinking some of the later ones, may have been named after their natural father. Have you managed to get birth details of all the children.
Tom
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all have surname Fawcett
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Robert March 17th 1901 died 1987
Marion 1902 emigrated to NZ
Thomas 1903
Janet(Jenny) 1907 emigrated to NZ
Alexander(Sandy) 1909
Mary 1910 died 1911
Kate 1909 died 1909
James1913 died 1914
James 1915??????
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Hi Mrs A,
Checked on SP gain, I cannot get a birth for a James Fawcett,other that the 1913 one we already discussed. We cannot get him in a census, due to 1921 census about 7 years from publication.
I tried the WW2 records on ancestry, but not many records of people who survived, most to the heroes who were killed.
So not too many records to chase him in UK at this time.
Have you tried tracing in New Zealand, he may have joined his sisters.
Tom
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Have attached photo of Jimmy .His mother was Marion Lawson Fawcett nee Campbell
Jimmy was born out of wedlock as Marion was widowed aged 32. I can't find any trace of Jimmy on birth records, does anyone recognise his regiment from uniform?Royal Scots?
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Have , at last, solved the mystery of Jimmy, the soldier in the photo.
He was born in 1920 to Marion Fawcwtt, nee Campbell, widowed. Father was James Muirhead, also a widow and who lived a few doors away in the same street.
So far, it appears that Jimmy died in Glasgow in 1978, he was using the surname Fawcett. Just waiting on death certificate to confirm that this is the same man.
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Well done mrs a ;)
It looks to have been a long old search for you. Fingers crossed the death registration confirms what you have found.
Monica
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Thanks Monica- a wee family mystery solved!
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Jimmy did die in Glasgow in 1978. Found dead at home after coronary thrombosis. He was using the surname Fawcett, and was single. Death was registered by a police officer. How very sad, when he still had living siblings….
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Can anyone advise on how to find out where Jimmy was buried/ cremated, please?